Fergie blames Far East tour

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Sir Alex Ferguson says Manchester United's summer tour of the Far East was one reason why they ended last season without a trophy.
United took on Thailand, Singapore and Malaysia last July.

They then went on to lose the Charity Shield to Liverpool before enduring a disastrous start to the Premiership campaign.

We always analyse these Far East trips and they're not the best preparation

"We got to the Charity Shield and you could see the difference in fitness as they were ahead of us in terms of games," Ferguson said.
"The players were playing catch-up in terms of fitness at the start of the season.

"We always analyse these Far East trips and they're not the best preparation.

"The games are played at a certain pace - not leisurely, but the opposition aren't the best and there's no real edge to it.

"The players can't move. They're stuck in the hotel all the time. They go out of the door and there are thousands of fans there."

But Ferguson admitted such tours were important in promoting United in the Far East.

"From a fans' point of view and the fact that the Far East is an emerging market for United, it has to be done," he said.

"We have to do it, but we really need to look at condensing it, making it an in-and-out situation."

United strolled to the Premier League title in 2000 even though they toured the Far East and Australia that pre-season and Liverpool also visited the Far East last summer.
 
Could be substance to it, but definitely not too sure about this comment!
 
I'm sorry - but I'm waiting for Fergie to make excuses about why he shouldn't have had a knighthood, or got all the accolades he did in 1999. I mean, the success couldn't have been down to him could it.

I'm getting a tad miffed with hearing Fergie lay it at everyone and everything elses door.
 
the far east tour shouldn't be used as an excuse for winning nothing this year.....but still, in terms of preperation these tours are nonsense....they're only good for commercial success.....
 
Originally posted by pelu:
<strong>the far east tour shouldn't be used as an excuse for winning nothing this year.....but still, in terms of preperation these tours are nonsense....they're only good for commercial success.....</strong><hr></blockquote>

Exactly why they're going to the USA this summer. Not exactly the best preparations again, eh? Wonder if that trip was Fergie's idea?
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Originally posted by the reporter:
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Exactly why they're going to the USA this summer. Not exactly the best preparations again, eh? Wonder if that trip was Fergie's idea?</strong><hr></blockquote>

they're going summer 2003 I think
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and people wonder why Utd are the most hated team in England........
 
Man United should tour the US every year. no fans outside, they can prance around the block and no one gives a shiete.

hell they can even go to a local English pub and watch football.

i remember seeing Alexi Lalas roaming around the mall in his flip flops...and he's an American hero.
 
Couldn't be the shirts, poor transfer signings or his tactical naivety could it perchance? <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />

(and you wonder why people can't stand that cnut)
 
Originally posted by Frupp:
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They are comming to Scandinavia this year..

Vålerenga - Man Utd @ Ullevål 30. July :) </strong><hr></blockquote>

aaand...

FC Aarhus - Man Utd @ Riisvangen Stadion 6. august :)

- At least they won't be 'trapped inside' in Scandinavia, like Fergie said they were in Asia...

I still remember the happy days of the pre-season 1998, when I met Superstar in full public! :cool: that was! :)
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It's the defence that caused a trophyless season. I thought the lads gave their all this season but to score one and let the opponents score two tells us how good our defence was. It used to be the other way around in the past - you score one, we score two. Blaming the Far East has got to be one of the shitest reason that Fergie can give.
 
Does anybody on here think that your club really does not want to be liked - wants be hated by all and sundry .

I know I'm on your board and I respect you lot (90% of you anyways) and get on fine with you .

BUT YOUR MANAGER IS A COMPLETE WANKER .

And sadly it reflects upon you as a club .

I've met a lot of people in the last couple of weeks who are as happy that you won nothing ( and the manner of it )as other clubs achieving whatever they did .

God you'r a great club history traditions trophies etc but for ALL that Fergy is an utter embarrasment to you .

I'd not want him a thousand miles of my club Sheesh .

I'spose by the law of averages his accusing finger may eventually get round to himself as to why your season was a disaster .

Why do I doubt that .


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Fergie can't really be blamed this season imo. Some players, as Keano rightly suggested, thought they were going to win it before a ball was kicked. Even Beckham suggested going the season unbeaten. Last season was down to the wrong attitude.

BTW Jopub re your comments "YOUR MANAGER IS A COMPLETE WANKER".

How is he an embarrasment to us? This man has brought back the glory days to United, and then some. I have never been embarrassed once by him.

How any ARSEnal fan can say this is beyond me, how many red cards? how many yellow cards? It is dirty team and ARSEne Wenger and his non-seeing ways that are an embarrasment, along with your muppet fans.

Christ its taken 4 years for ARSEne to share the custom of an after-match drink with United. Would he have done this if he'd have lost the league, me thinks not.

Can't feckin wait till next season, your managers domination claims will be well and truly shoved down his throat.
 
BTW Jopub re your comments "YOUR MANAGER IS A COMPLETE WANKER".
Good call there Gunner <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" />
Wenger bitched about anything and everything(up until you had the league won). What kind of manager claims that there's a conspiracy theory against your team to not win the league?
 
Originally posted by Jopub the Gooner:
<strong>Does anybody on here think that your club really does not want to be liked - wants be hated by all and sundry .

I know I'm on your board and I respect you lot (90% of you anyways) and get on fine with you .

BUT YOUR MANAGER IS A COMPLETE WANKER .

And sadly it reflects upon you as a club .

I've met a lot of people in the last couple of weeks who are as happy that you won nothing ( and the manner of it )as other clubs achieving whatever they did .

God you'r a great club history traditions trophies etc but for ALL that Fergy is an utter embarrasment to you .

I'd not want him a thousand miles of my club Sheesh .

I'spose by the law of averages his accusing finger may eventually get round to himself as to why your season was a disaster .

Why do I doubt that .


<img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[No No]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

I agree that it was a lame excuse by Fergie

But saying that he is a total wanker on a utd forum is out of order.

Go feck off, gooner boy!

:mad:
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Originally posted by Jopub the Gooner:
<strong>I'spose by the law of averages his accusing finger may eventually get round to himself as to why your season was a disaster .
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I accept that the Far East tour was not the only reason we failed to win anything last year but there is now too much emphasis on PLC results for my liking. I think Fergie's comments are more about telling the PLC to worry about on field activities. I want the PLC to succeed for the benefit of the team, not the other way round.

Other reasons for failure last year.
Jaap Stam. Is it possible that Fergie gave him too long to recover. When Fergie realised that Jaap would not be the same player again he sold him. If Fergie had acted quicker we might have got a longer term replacement than Laurent Blanc - and without the fall out. This might have avoided the bad results before Christmas. Easy to criticize with the benefit of hindsight.

Dwight Yorke. Another where Fergie might have been too loyal. How many chances should he be given? Clearly, the life of a professional sportsman is not for Dwight any more. If he'd gone earlier we might have got a replacement and Ruud would not have been running on empty at the end of the season. He (Ruud not Dwight)might even have been fit/refreshed enough to face Arsenal.

Some people blame Fergie's tactics. I must admit that I don't always understand why he does certain things but I am 100% sure on this. I would back Fergie's tactical knowhow against any of his critics. The way some people talk I think they forget that Fergie has been involved in professional football for over forty years. Surely, he has gained some idea of the game during that time. He has access to fitness/medical information about his players (something most critics don't have)and knows how they react in different situations. He also has very experienced coaching staff. Perhaps things could improve here but some critics seem to come up with fairly simple solutions.
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Interesting replies .

However my point was about him and not his falling managerial standards , even although they are now questionable .

Look at him today . It's the close season for club managers and what is he up to getting himself centre stage in the Roy Keane fiasco ... defending the indefensible just cos RK plays for him .

As for embarrassing - I would be - AND as for Wenger taking four years to have an after match drink !!

I'm amazed after what has been said by SAF Wenger went anywhere near him , who on earth would want to have a drink with him .

I'm sorry lads but as people and class Wenger is different league .

This will run this Keane thing , and as he's been doing for 9 months now with big maistake after big mistake, Ferguson is going to end up looking like a complete fool if he defends him .

I cant be bothered to go into it - Keane's attitude ..unbelievable ...THE WORLD CUP ..The pinnacle of all that can be achieved in football -the only competition that makes ALL others small ...from your earliest childhood dreams .....and Roy get's upset about a dodgy pitch and being asked to go in goal for five fecking minutes ..

What a pratt

I'v always had time for Keane , but this ...I cannot believe it.. and now King Ferg has to step in .

Anyone on here think he should mind his own business ?? ......mmmmmmmm

Thought not ..
 
Originally posted by Jopub the Gooner:
<strong>Interesting replies .

However my point was about him and not his falling managerial standards , even although they are now questionable .

Rest of prattle deleted

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Maybe if you tone down your abuses about Sir Alex you might get more respect.

Otherwise you are just another ABU wanker however objective your intentions are.

Just ask your jerk of a manager - he certainly knows what being a wanker is about.
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Yep you're right mate

The only reason you won the league three years in a row is cos either Bergkamp missed that penalty or Wenger prefers wine to beer .

Course it could have been that I moved house in the summer of 99 !! :D

Maybe it's cos I went on holiday to Skiathos in 2000 !! :D

Mmmmmmm..difficult this ...Ah I got it ...you won the league cos cos I got married in 2001 .! :D

Well the last thing I'll accept is that you were the better team mate ...then again the Arse did have to play Boreham Wood AND Barnet in pre season friendlies before those seasons began .

Now surely that's enough to have completely knackered us and made us unable to give you the resistance you would have suffered thus putting you under pressure that you would not have been able to handle thus

THE TRUTH IS IN FACT WE WOULD / SHOULD HAVE WON THE PL FIVE TIMES ON THE BOUNCE BUT FOR YOUR MISERABLE LUCK AND OUR EXHAUSTING TOUR OF HERTFORDSHIRE .

I'm not being funny Ichk but don't you feel feckING STUPID YET

;) :D <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />

Sheeeeeeeeeeeesh - RESPECT ??????????????

What utter bollocks
 
Blame the games in the Far East? Hmmm how could it have contributed to the whole season SAF? :rolleyes:
 
BUT YOUR MANAGER IS A COMPLETE WANKER .

And sadly it reflects upon you as a club .

I've met a lot of people in the last couple of weeks who are as happy that you won nothing ( and the manner of it )as other clubs achieving whatever they did .

God you'r a great club history traditions trophies etc but for ALL that Fergy is an utter embarrasment to you .

I'd not want him a thousand miles of my club Sheesh .

I'spose by the law of averages his accusing finger may eventually get round to himself as to why your season was a disaster .

Why do I doubt that .


<img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[No No]" /> [/QB][/QUOTE]

Was he a wanker when he said that your lot deserved to win the league. Lets be honest, the 2 years Arse won anything in the last 10 years SAF congratulated them. What did Whinger say about United, "They were lucky" or "It was given to them". Sorry Jopub but until Whinger stops his whining don't attack SAF, you just make yourself appear a Richard Cranium.
 
Originally posted by Jopub the Gooner:
<strong>Yep you're right mate


THE TRUTH IS IN FACT WE WOULD / SHOULD HAVE WON THE PL FIVE TIMES ON THE BOUNCE BUT FOR YOUR MISERABLE LUCK AND OUR EXHAUSTING TOUR OF HERTFORDSHIRE .

I'm not being funny Ichk but don't you feel feckING STUPID YET

;) :D <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />

Sheeeeeeeeeeeesh - RESPECT ??????????????

What utter bollocks</strong><hr></blockquote>

You don't read English too well do you? :rolleyes:

I did mention that it was wrong of Fergie to resort to such an excuse

However the way you present your "argument" is offensive to Utd fans

Go on being a wanker, gooner boy - ypu are emulating your manager perfectly

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Jopub, I am not going to abuse you. I don`t mind you on this forum even if I don`t agree with you.

However, I don`t see how anyone can say with any logic that Sir Alex is wrong in making the reasonable comments he has made over the Roy Keane matter. Sir Alex has been smoothing things over, not adding fuel to the fire.

Also, I find Arsene Wenger embarrassing, although I think he is an intelligent man and manager and deserves the success he has had with Arsenal. Sir Alex has been known to let his disappointment when players have been out of line be known publicly but he has always chosen the appropriate time and place to do it. He is loyal to his lads but will also not defend the indefensible.

Whereas Arsene has adopted what can only be called an irresponsible attitude - I didn`t see it, etc. What a joke. And in the not so distant past he was a very, very poor loser in an undignified, whining way.

So please look in your own backyard before you attack Sir Alex Ferguson.
 
Hey gg that's cool .

I accept much of what you say .

I am a reasonable bloke and enjoy the talk banter I receive on here .

BUT I do find it very difficult that many on here deep down will not accept you've been second best .

The excuses used are beyond belief and Man Utd's creditability just plummets every time any one actually gives any credence to a "we had to play on the moon pre-season and THAT's why we lost the league "

Any congratulations have been embarassingly grudging from your camp - It was all somebody elses fault except at OT !

For a start we can all maybe agree there are far more important things going on in the world OTHER than Man Utd and Arsenals bunch of overpaid superstars prancing around earning 60 grand a week for kicking a football ! Christ

Shit - coming second ( ask us )/ third ain't THAT bad .

Look at us feeling we deserved more and finishing second nigh on six times in recent years .

It happens , you try to better it next time you accept you were simply NOT GOOD ENOUGH and that's it you dust yourself off and go for the next campaign.

Bleating on a about a far Eastern tour and Stam and whatever you want IS bollocks .

Agreed Wenger has his faults 'The I did not see it " IS ridiculous

But SAF I'm afraid is your proverbial 'pram toys and out' brigade . 'I only talk to the press when I say what I want- when I get the quesions I WANT TO ANSWER .

Can you not see why it's so sweet for everybody when he and Man Utd take this kind of tone everywhere they go .

I realise I have been a little OTT and I 'll keep a little quiet about SAF for now as every day he says everything for me .

As for Keane SAF has said he did not even want him to go to the WC ?!?

Mmmmm ........very nice of him

:(
 
Originally posted by Jopub the Gooner:
<strong>As for Keane SAF has said he did not even want him to go to the WC ?!?
Mmmmm ........very nice of him
:( </strong><hr></blockquote>

But he still left the final decision with the player himself.

Look @ houllier who could have given the same choice to Carragher and the hunchback.
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Originally posted by Jopub the Gooner:
<strong>Yep you're right mate

The only reason you won the league three years in a row is cos either Bergkamp missed that penalty or Wenger prefers wine to beer .

THE TRUTH IS IN FACT WE WOULD / SHOULD HAVE WON THE PL FIVE TIMES ON THE BOUNCE BUT FOR YOUR MISERABLE LUCK AND OUR EXHAUSTING TOUR OF HERTFORDSHIRE .

I'm not being funny Ichk but don't you feel feckING STUPID YET

;) :D <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />

Sheeeeeeeeeeeesh - RESPECT ??????????????

What utter bollocks</strong><hr></blockquote>

I have mentioned that blaming the Far East was a shit reason but for you to come here and utter rubbish is worst than shit. You can lol for all you like and you can use all the F word you want but that doesn't take off the impression of me on you - the childish one. You really do sound like Whinger. I met SAF at the then Red Cafe when he was in Singapore and he is a really nice person. Amid some pretty poor reason that he gave sometimes, I still thinks that he deserves my utmost respect.
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