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Ferguson speaks up for Keane
Last updated: 15-11-02, 17:03

Manchester United skipper Roy Keane has received powerful backing from Sir Alex Ferguson after the former Irish captain's recent conduct was called into question at the club's annual general meeting.

One female supporter, disgruntled at the almost constant rows which have erupted around the 31-year-old over the past few months, doesn't believe the club should have acted so leniently.

United officials arranged the flights which brought Keane home after his infamous World Cup walk-out, while club legal expert Maurice Watkins was on hand to defend the Cork-born player against the two FA disrepute charges which arose out of comments made in his autobiography.

Eventually, much to the delight of Old Trafford insiders, Keane reluctantly agreed not to appeal against his five-match ban and record stg£150,000 fine, only to find himself in the headlines again this week when it was reported that a video about the player contains an interview in which he allegedly says he wishes he had punched Alan Shearer when the pair clashed at Newcastle last season.

Despite the recent troubles, his forceful presence has been badly missed by United this season, and it is clear Ferguson will welcome him back with open arms.

"I can understand how the revelations in Roy's book disturbed some supporters," said Ferguson.

"But it is very difficult to criticise someone who has committed himself to Manchester United the way Roy has for the past nine years.

"Every minute of his whole life is dedicated to the club and to winning football matches and it is very difficult to get people like that.

"We have spoken to him a lot and made him aware of his responsibilities but those flashes of temper are always going to be there.

"You have to balance these things out because you cannot have a winner and a perfect gentleman, the two things don't go together.

"You also have to get to know someone because if people did, they wouldn't say half the things they do about him.

"It was not very long ago we received a call from someone who is dying of cancer. Without telling me, Roy went to see him and sat with him for hours and said if he ever wanted to come up to the training ground it would be arranged.

"Roy didn't do that for publicity, he just did it. It's important to see both sides and get a balanced view."
 
That's so touching

There's only one Keano
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Originally posted by Flora:
<strong>That's so touching

There's only one Keano
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Here Here <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" />
 
Most of other teams Fans who criticize Keano, would Kill to have some one like him .
 
Originally posted by Flora:
<strong>That's so touching

There's only one Keano
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What utter drivel....what is this meant to be ?...'The Life of Brian' ?? with your 'Keano'
as the new Messiah?,administering to the sick and needy??Who the fxck is he...God's representative on earth?


Absolute disgrace that your asshole of a manager is trying to drag in the sympathy vote for that thug of yours.Pass the fxcking sick bowl,I need to puke at so much hypocritical self righteous bollocks.

Is there no depths to which 'Demento' (aka SAF) will resort !!??
 
Thats feckin rich comin from a gooner, whos captain has spat on people before now...

Yet his manager, who apparently "I didnt see eeeet" on numerous occasions...

At least our captain doesnt spit on players, i remember when we beat you 2-1 at highbury, when Viera headbutted keane, did Keane go down clutching his face??

No, he laughed and Viera, who recieved a Yellow card instead of a Red, if Keane had've gone down, it wouldve been ANOTHER red card for the Arse..

so STFU.

Goddam nOOOOOb
 
Originally posted by Gillespie:
<strong>

What utter drivel....what is this meant to be ?...'The Life of Brian' ?? with your 'Keano'
as the new Messiah?,administering to the sick and needy??Who the fxck is he...God's representative on earth?


Absolute disgrace that your asshole of a manager is trying to drag in the sympathy vote for that thug of yours.Pass the fxcking sick bowl,I need to puke at so much hypocritical self righteous bollocks.

Is there no depths to which 'Demento' (aka SAF) will resort !!??</strong><hr></blockquote>

Keano is who he is. No angel, but not a thug either. Sir Alex is showing some personal loyalty, which Keane thoroughly deserves from him.

Most of us on this board feel that we owe Keano some loyalty as well. He's done so much for the club after all. Unfortunately, that concept seems hard for you to grasp.
 
I think the point of SAF saying that is to emphasise the fact that those who criticise Keano dont really know him. Some of the stuff you read about him you'd think he was the devil or something. He's showing people there is a soft side to him and that his mongrel is what makes him such an awesome player.
 
While I welcome the Gooners on this board (it can be fun with them and the Liverpool supporters), I think it is utterly distasteful,not to mention so petty and parochial, of Gillespie to slag off Keano in the way he has.

If you don`t like OUR MAN Keano, that is your choice, but don`t stoop to such snide and bigoted attacks against those who can demonstrate that Keano is a decent human being.

Imagine the response of Arsenal fans if I attacked Vieira or somebody else for having the decency and sensitivity to reach out to someone with cancer. I would never do that, and I bet nobody on this board would hop over to the Arsenal chatboard to stab an Arsenal player in the back for demonstrating their decency.

As for the lady who complained about the adverse publicity Keano is giving MU - my response is, that is the man. With Keano you are going to get controversy but also full-blooded commitment to and passion for this club.

Tell me the time when Keano never gave 1000 percent for the club in any game. You can`t because the man gives his all and more for Manchester United. That is why Sir Alex and many of us support Keano through and through.

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Originally posted by Gillespie:
<strong>

What utter drivel....what is this meant to be ?...'The Life of Brian' ?? with your 'Keano'
as the new Messiah?,administering to the sick and needy??Who the fxck is he...God's representative on earth?


Absolute disgrace that your asshole of a manager is trying to drag in the sympathy vote for that thug of yours.Pass the fxcking sick bowl,I need to puke at so much hypocritical self righteous bollocks.

Is there no depths to which 'Demento' (aka SAF) will resort !!??</strong><hr></blockquote>

"people in glass houses..."

go check your disciplinary record against ours...then come back and lick my boots Gooner scum!

Viva Le Roy <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" />
 
Originally posted by Gillespie:
<strong>Is there no depths to which 'Demento' (aka SAF) will resort !!??</strong><hr></blockquote>
Sir Alex never said that he agreed with what Keano did. He even mentions that Keano has been spoken to. He is just saying that there are always more sides to a story than just what appears in the news. At least SAF is a brave man and says it like it is whether people like it or not.

Unlike a froggie coward who always hides behind excuses like " I didn't see it"..
 
Originally posted by giggsgirl:
<strong>While I welcome the Gooners on this board (it can be fun with them and the Liverpool supporters), I think it is utterly distasteful,not to mention so petty and parochial, of Gillespie to slag off Keano in the way he has.

If you don`t like OUR MAN Keano, that is your choice, but don`t stoop to such snide and bigoted attacks against those who can demonstrate that Keano is a decent human being.

Imagine the response of Arsenal fans if I attacked Vieira or somebody else for having the decency and sensitivity to reach out to someone with cancer. I would never do that, and I bet nobody on this board would hop over to the Arsenal chatboard to stab an Arsenal player in the back for demonstrating their decency.

As for the lady who complained about the adverse publicity Keano is giving MU - my response is, that is the man. With Keano you are going to get controversy but also full-blooded commitment to and passion for this club.

Tell me the time when Keano never gave 1000 percent for the club in any game. You can`t because the man gives his all and more for Manchester United. That is why Sir Alex and many of us support Keano through and through.

:</strong><hr></blockquote>


Giggsgirl,you and all the other kneejerk pro Keane responses to my post miss the point.Yes,I have attacked Keane before.Yes,I do think he has behaved like a thug....and frankly,he condemns himself as such out of his own mouth.

My criticism is directed at Demento,who I believe has cynically brought in the suffering of others to paint Keane in a more favourable light.That is what I find despicable.I'm prepared to believe that Keane (off the pitch) can be capable of acting kindly or decently.....No,I don't think he is a demon (even if you lot represent him as such on this forum <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" /> ).
BUT he has acted like a lout and all this truth and honesty nonsense about his book is just tosh!Let's be clear the book was all about sensationalism newspaper rights and money.That was the clear motivation,not some quixotic striving for truth and honesty.So ,not only has he been guilty of behaving like a thug,he also ,in my opinion,acted crassly.

One last thing,anyone who wants to argue this point further,please stick to the point.The disciplinary record of Arsenal or the alleged selective blindness of Wenger is irrelevant to this point,but I'd be only too happy to discuss these topics on another thread. ;)
 
Originally posted by Gillespie:
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Giggsgirl,you and all the other kneejerk pro Keane responses to my post miss the point.Yes,I have attacked Keane before.Yes,I do think he has behaved like a thug....and frankly,he condemns himself as such out of his own mouth.

My criticism is directed at Demento,who I believe has cynically brought in the suffering of others to paint Keane in a more favourable light.That is what I find despicable.I'm prepared to believe that Keane (off the pitch) can be capable of acting kindly or decently.....No,I don't think he is a demon (even if you lot represent him as such on this forum <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" /> ).
BUT he has acted like a lout and all this truth and honesty nonsense about his book is just tosh!Let's be clear the book was all about sensationalism newspaper rights and money.That was the clear motivation,not some quixotic striving for truth and honesty.So ,not only has he been guilty of behaving like a thug,he also ,in my opinion,acted crassly.

One last thing,anyone who wants to argue this point further,please stick to the point.The disciplinary record of Arsenal or the alleged selective blindness of Wenger is irrelevant to this point,but I'd be only too happy to discuss these topics on another thread. ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

Seems to me you're getting a bit picky here. The fact that you're Arse fan makes Wenger, Viera, etc, all fair game.
You criticise SAF for defending his players, but try to ignore the fact that Wenger does exactly the same thing, but in a more mind nimbingly stupid way. (I didn't see it!).It must be said, that for a manager, he appears to watch remarkably little football. So by slagging of a manager for doing precisely what Wanker does, you are really making a bit of a prat of yourself :D
 
Originally posted by andy27457:
<strong>

Seems to me you're getting a bit picky here. The fact that you're Arse fan makes Wenger, Viera, etc, all fair game.
You criticise SAF for defending his players, but try to ignore the fact that Wenger does exactly the same thing, but in a more mind nimbingly stupid way. (I didn't see it!).It must be said, that for a manager, he appears to watch remarkably little football. So by slagging of a manager for doing precisely what Wanker does, you are really making a bit of a prat of yourself :D </strong><hr></blockquote>

Actually,Wenger's 'not seeing things' is quite the reverse....very smart,because,it kills that particular line of questioning stone dead and prevents the more unscrupulous journalists from peddling their heinous trade.Yes,I concede that both Wenger and SAF will defend their players to the hilt ...aand ,actually,they are more often than not to be commended for that,because it preserves team spirit.
BUT,this thread is not about Arsenal...it's about SAF's tasteless support of Keane,bringing in cancer victims to show how 'human and wonderful' Keane is.It's indefensible and despicable to try and capitalise on others' sufferings merely to promote Keane.Frankly,I think it's a sign of desperation from SAF.And ,listen,you don't need an Arsenal fan to tell you that.Why not read this morning's papers and see what Man Utd shareholders think of their manager....it seems there was some pretty harsh criticism ,both of SAF and Keane,which goes to show that there are many decent Man Utd fans out there who also find these events tasteless to say the least.
 
Originally posted by Gillespie:
<strong>Why not read this morning's papers and see what Man Utd shareholders think of their manager....it seems there was some pretty harsh criticism ,both of SAF and Keane,which goes to show that there are many decent Man Utd fans out there who also find these events tasteless to say the least.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Careful with your plurals there sonny :rolleyes:
Had you read about that meeting you would understand that Fergie called the fella who said that an "idiot" and got a round of applause from the rest of those present.
 
I think Gillespie`s postings here must rank as some of the most blindly bigoted I have ever seen on this board. It is unfortunate as sometimes I think he makes a reasonable contribution to other topics even if I don`t agree with him.

You will never convince me or other Red Devils that somehow it is `demented` or `despicable` of Sir Alex to rightfully point out that Roy Keane is not a caricature but a human being who can behave decently and with compassion. Gillespie`s hatred for Keane borders on the obsessive with its vindictiveness.

Keano has also done things such as contact players in other divisions who suffered similar injuries to the one he did some years back, to offer support and advice based on the recovery program he was given. If Sir Alex had also mentioned that at the meeting he would have been right to do so.

Why don`t Manchester United fans go onto the Arsenal board and write venomous messages about kick, elbow and spit merchants like Vieira when he happens to show that there is more to him than the player on the pitch? We don`t do that because we have some balance about our views, something that is absolutely lacking in Gillespie`s postings here.

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I forgot to say that I find it amazing that an Arsenal fan who comes on to our board with such spiteful and bigoted swill tries to lecture Red Devils about sticking to the point.

As the Japanese say, `Shinjirarenai` - Unbelievable!
 
Originally posted by giggsgirl:
<strong>I forgot to say that I find it amazing that an Arsenal fan who comes on to our board with such spiteful and bigoted swill tries to lecture Red Devils about sticking to the point.

As the Japanese say, `Shinjirarenai` - Unbelievable!</strong><hr></blockquote>#

Blindly bigoted is a bit OTT,I think.Naturally,I'll take a partisan view and my criticisms in this thread are directed at SAF,not Keane......although my views on him are well known.For what it's worth,I do think Keane is a great player and the most important player in your team.He is your talisman and his presence alone makes the team perform at a higher level.But that doesn't mean I can forgive his ,on occasion, loutish excesses.Many of you refer to Vieira and his 'crimes'.He has also behaved stupidly in the past,but remember he is a much younger player than Keane.His assuming the role of captain has helped mature him .He doesn't get involved in some of the stupid things he used to and,in fact,is more sinned against than sinning these days.He is currently,in my view,the best player in his position in the world.Other teams deliberately set out to provoke him because they know they are unable to beat him playing football.Maybe,we'll finally see him getting better protection from referees,who knows?
All too often these days,he is harshly treated by referees because he is Patrick Vieira and a prized scalp for them.