With johnsen gone now (despite your predictions that he would stay becoz fergie said he was the best central defender around), do you think we need to buy?
FAO Raoul
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If players leave then they need to be replaced. Simple as that.
Originally posted by Murt:
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Allow me to speak for Raoul and the other sane ppl in the place by saying that if a couple of defenders leave they'll need to replaced by one or two others.
Rather than the draw an away game and demand 7 new defenders and a new keeper policy.
If people are going they will have to be replaced, if Johnsen had have been fit he would have stayed. It'll be tough getting a defender as good as him.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Mere exaggeration on your part about "7 defenders" and you are the one moaning about others puttings words into your mouth.
Yes, players need to be replaced - the next question is how? Internal promotion or purchases?
I suspect Fergie has a combination solution in mind.
As good as Wes Brown and John OShea maybe they still need a guiding force, so I suspect that is why he wants Blanc to stay -- a guiding almost coaching role -- and while those two are being groomed he will IMO but one central defender -- Thuram?
With Irwin gone and Phil Neville looking as if he may not make the grade I think one more defender may come.
As good as Wes Brown and John OShea maybe they still need a guiding force, so I suspect that is why he wants Blanc to stay -- a guiding almost coaching role -- and while those two are being groomed he will IMO but one central defender -- Thuram?
With Irwin gone and Phil Neville looking as if he may not make the grade I think one more defender may come.
Originally posted by lchk:
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Through purchases? promoting fringe players?</strong><hr></blockquote>
No, I'm a firm believer in the Ichk doctrine of buying and selling players when one of our defenders makes a mistake. Players shouldn't make mistakes. To err is not human after all. Loyalty to our youth players is overrated, so lets go out and buy loads of expensive Italian players who have no interest in leaving Italy and would leave United in 6 months because they're homesick or can't eat their favourite restaurants etc.
Originally posted by lchk:
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Mere exaggeration on your part about "7 defenders" and you are the one moaning about others puttings words into your mouth.
Yes, players need to be replaced - the next question is how? Internal promotion or purchases?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Their may be 4 defenders leaving, 2 purchases would be more than enough. 1 would probably even do it with O'Shea playing more frequently.
Definitely not 7 and they dont have to be superstars or young Baresi's.
Internal promotion or purchases, both are a possible.
Originally posted by Raoul:
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No, I'm a firm believer in the Ichk doctrine of buying and selling players when one of our defenders makes a mistake. Players shouldn't make mistakes. To err is not human after all. Loyalty to our youth players is overrated, so lets go out and buy loads of expensive Italian players who have no interest in leaving Italy and would leave United in 6 months because they're homesick or can't eat their favourite restaurants etc.
Nonsense Raoul. You know very well that I have been mentioning that the defence needed some work since even before this season began, more so after the departure of Stam.
These are not "one or two" mistakes made - it has been a whole catalouge of defensive errors since last season. Even Fergie and Roy Keane have pointed out that the defence isn't up to scratch, what makes you think it's just the odd mistake and that it will just go away?
Loyalty to youth players who CAN make the grade is surely to be lauded, loyalty to a player just because he was born in OT and represented the club since he could walk is totally misplaced if that said player ain't up to the mark. Eg I have misgivings about Brown but I do believe that O'Shea can offer more for the team - let's face it, you aren't gonna play both of them against Real Madrid are you?
No, I have never emphasized signing expensive Italian imports - in fact, nothing would please me more if we signed an excellent bargain in the mould of a hyppia or a vieira. Hope this makes it clear to you that I am not for signing big names just for the sake of it.
So is Ichk your real name then Ichk?
So it is! Amazing. Well it isn't then is it? Who ever heard of a name with no vowels. What's your lchk name mean lchk?
Sorry, but why is Dans a more meaningful name than lchk? Both are meaningless for me, but it's up to them how they register.
All this petty arguments over a mere net nick
It's not a name, it's an acronym
It's not a name, it's an acronym
Originally posted by lchk:
<strong>All this petty arguments over a mere net nick
It's not a name, it's an acronym</strong><hr></blockquote>
His real name is unpronouncable to the human toungue.
Cheers
Raoul
Originally posted by Raoul:
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His real name is unpronouncable to the human toungue.
Cheers
Raoul</strong><hr></blockquote>
I hope you aren't taking this personally Raoul. I do enjoy conversing with you.
Originally posted by lchk:
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I hope you aren't taking this personally Raoul. I do enjoy conversing with you.
Not at all.....panic buyer.
Originally posted by lchk:
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FYI, we already have broken some of the younger players into the first team.
Brown is a regular of sorts.
O'Shea is "bench" material.
If they are good enough, they'll break into the first team no matter who joins us etc.
If they aren't, it's either the bench, reserves or being sold to another club. Simple as that.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I like the way you're coming around to my ideas.
le chik (le chique?), I think you should lighten up a bit and tell Raoul or Murt to feck off if you don't like what they're saying. Easy. Nothing like a bit of harmless personal abuse.
Originally posted by lchk:
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This "truce" was already offered to murt ages ago - he just wouldn't let it go.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Theirs no war so their'll be no truce,
I just disagree with most of your opinions, the 7 defenders, coaches, keepers, strikers thing is just the tip of the iceberg.
Where did the inspiration for "LCHK" come from btw?
Originally posted by Dans:
<strong>le chik (le chique?), I think you should lighten up a bit and tell Raoul or Murt to feck off if you don't like what they're saying. Easy. Nothing like a bit of harmless personal abuse.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Theirs no need for personal abuse. Men have feelings too you know
Originally posted by Dans:
<strong>le chik (le chique?), I think you should lighten up a bit and tell Raoul or Murt to feck off if you don't like what they're saying. Easy. Nothing like a bit of harmless personal abuse.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I reserve that exclusively for dippers
Originally posted by lchk:
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I reserve that exclusively for dippers
Do you wish you were as good as us dippers Inct?
Originally posted by Murt:
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Theirs no war so their'll be no truce,
I just disagree with most of your opinions, the 7 defenders, coaches, keepers, strikers thing is just the tip of the iceberg.
Where did the inspiration for "LCHK" come from btw?</strong><hr></blockquote>
No bother on my part. Everyone has their own opinions.
Re my nick - it was cobbled together from several things some of it not in English
Originally posted by lchk:
<strong>Re my nick - it was cobbled together from several things some of it not in English
You own a gaol?
Kinell, there's more than meets the eye with this le freak geeza.
I feel the squad as a whole isn`t good enough.We haven`t the quality players in depth as say Arsenal or Liverpool.This i feel will change this summer.
P.S
Dans leave the guy alone!!Sad O
Just talk about Football and Utd
P.S
Dans leave the guy alone!!Sad O
Just talk about Football and Utd