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@ "america's team"big blue go top of the nfc east...
The Giants look like the real deal this year. I think they'll make the Superbowl........and then get obliterated by the Colts.
Real Deal? Dallas dominated NYG in first matchup and the Giants choked at Seattle last weekend. NYG won today thanks to "Bledsoe Blunders." NFC is wide open. Any team can win the conference. Even Minnesota could pull it off...should they get in the playoffs. Seattle is the best in the NFC at the moment record-wise, but Chicago is playing the best football of all NFC teams (despite a non-existent offense).
It's all a moot point. Manning and Dungy will get their Superbowl rings at the end of this year.
Marcello, Seattle is the best team in the NFC PERIOD! Not just record wise, they're playing the best too. I mean, you said it yourself, Chicago's got NO offense, so how could they be playing the best? They got lucky against Green Bay today, and have gotten lucky a few times earlier this season. Their offense has been shit, and was absolute shit today. Not even 50 passing yards for the Bears today. Shockingly awful..
giants wont go to the superbowl.
manning will bottle it in the playoffs, he's got potential, but is far from a finished product.
the cowboys, however, are shite.
manning will bottle it in the playoffs, he's got potential, but is far from a finished product.
the cowboys, however, are shite.
The Cowboys of the last few years have been in a desperate attempt to reinvent the word shite.
Too bad for them Detroit seems to have a patent on it.
I just continue to be amazed by the Bucs. Another win today, 8-4, and this Bucs team is weaker than many who have ended up with losing records.
Whay a strange game it is...
Too bad for them Detroit seems to have a patent on it.
I just continue to be amazed by the Bucs. Another win today, 8-4, and this Bucs team is weaker than many who have ended up with losing records.
Whay a strange game it is...
jasonrh said:
Only thing weak about the Bucs is their passing game. Their defense is strong (though nowhere near as good as the Bears or Panthers), but our running game gets it done, and Simms is learning. Too bad Galloway is 34.
MrMarcello said:
Dallas stumbled past the Giants in overtime the first time. This time Eli tried to keep your collection of mediocrities in the game and scarcely succeeded. New York has a better offense and a better defense. They outplayed Seattle but, as in the Vikings game, got let down by special teams. I've seen no one in the NFC worthy of the Super Bowl, but the Giants certainly have as good a chance as the Seahowks or Panthers, and no one else should make the playoffs.
FresnoBob said:
No bias there.
Dallas dominated NY Giants in the earlier matchup but per usual allowed the opponent to score late and tie a game they had no business being within single digit points against. It was a crap game in which Dallas gave NY every chance to put up a huge lead, but the Giants were so inept on offense (or Dallas D was so good that day), the NY only scored 6 points off 4 Dallas turnovers. Dallas still had a 7-6 halftime lead, despite playing shit (NYG played quite shit too). Dallas dominated the second half, but let NYG tie the game up late. Manning had 215 yards passing that day, of which 52 came on the last two passes in the 4th quarter.
There is no clear cut favorite in the NFC now. Seattle has the best record. Chicago's D is amazing. You can talk about Giants letting Seattle win...but no mention of how dominant Dallas was at Seattle, only to blow a 10-3 lead (another game the Dallas kicker cost Dallas a win). Seattle had like 150 yards of offense through 57 minutes. It was the first time a Parcells coached team ever lost a game in which they had a 10 point lead and less than 3 minutes remaining. Bledsoe throwing a pick when the Boys were driving for a game winning FG attempt (which, knowing Cortez, would have been missed anyhow).
MM--If nothing else, we seem to agree that Seattle might have the best record, but they are still an over-rated, lucky team. That said, I still hope they beat the Iggles tonight.
It's hard to tell how good the NFC teams are because the conference is so lousy. I think that Carolina is the best; then Seattle who's pretty good; the Giants and Bears are pretty good on a given day; Dallas, Tampa Bay and Atlanta are slightly better than average; the Redskins are average; and everyone else stinks, except for Minnesota who is ordinary and could win the conference because they are opportunistic.
I think the Colts would be 9-point favorites over Carolina and 10-12 over the others, and about 14 over Minnesota.
Indianapolis, Cinci, Denver, San Diego and maybe Pittsburgh are better than anyone in the NFC. New England, KC and Jacksonville are just as good as the NFC's best.
I think the Colts would be 9-point favorites over Carolina and 10-12 over the others, and about 14 over Minnesota.
Indianapolis, Cinci, Denver, San Diego and maybe Pittsburgh are better than anyone in the NFC. New England, KC and Jacksonville are just as good as the NFC's best.
and there´s a pretty good chance pittsburgh wont even get a wildcard ... go figure
MrMarcello said:No bias there.
There is no clear cut favorite in the NFC now. Seattle has the best record. Chicago's D is amazing. You can talk about Giants letting Seattle win...but no mention of how dominant Dallas was at Seattle, only to blow a 10-3 lead (another game the Dallas kicker cost Dallas a win). Seattle had like 150 yards of offense through 57 minutes. It was the first time a Parcells coached team ever lost a game in which they had a 10 point lead and less than 3 minutes remaining. Bledsoe throwing a pick when the Boys were driving for a game winning FG attempt (which, knowing Cortez, would have been missed anyhow).
If Seattle was down 10-3 with under 3 minutes left, and ended up wining 13-10, then please, tell me, how exactly were the Cowboys up by 10 with three minutes to go? I'd really like to know that.
Also, I notice how there is absolutely NO mention from you about how Seattle's defense dominated the Dallas offense. You say that Dallas dominated that game, when the reality of it was that it was a defensive battle, and both defenses dominated.
FresnoBob said:
I wouldn't say that Seattle is over-rated, in fact, I would go with just the opposite of that. They're sitting at 10-2, and have the best record in the NFC, have already locked up the west as well. There have been times when they've had a bit of luck, I wil admit that, but there's also been times when it's gone the opposite direction (vs. Washington), not to mention all the horrible calls we've had against in crucial games by officials.
Our offense is amazing, we've got the best running back in NFC, maybe in the entire NFL (though LT is amazing as well). The defense is often hit or miss, last night they were just superb though. Even though the Eagles are quite shit right now, without McNabb and without Owens, they're still a good team, and we just dominated and destroyed them last night. It was awesome.
We're the best team in the NFC, our record shows that, our performances show that, and we're going to lock up home field throughout the playoffs too.
Where is the namesake of this thread anyway?
Flaaaaaaaa-sssssshhhhhhhhiiiiiiieeeee?
Flaaaaaaaa-sssssshhhhhhhhiiiiiiieeeee?
I'm a Bears fan but I don't think they'll go far in the playoffs TBH because of that lack of offense. You've got to think that relying on defence as much as they do is going to catch up to them sometime.MrMarcello said:
randy420 said:
That was the Washington game (the 10 point reference), I just mixed them up.
So get your panties unwadded.
Seattle played very well defensively, but they did let Barber run for 95 yards on 22 carries, and the Boys had 164 rushing yards which is a horrible stat for a defense (but only allowed 136 gross passing yards). Therefore, Dallas dominated time of possession, 34:08 - 25:52, limiting Seattle's ability to move the ball offensively. Meanwhile, Dallas shut down Shaun Alexander, limiting him to 61 yards on 21 carries. Seattle finished with 72 yards rushing and 224 passing (gross), of which 12 rushing yards and 58 passing yards came on the last drive, the game tying TD. Bledsoe then throws an INT and Brown kicks a 50 yard FG on the next play to win the game. If Cortez makes the 'chipshot' 29 yard FG early in the 4th, Bledsoe is not throwing a pass with under 1 minute remaining. It's clearly a game Seattle had no business winning, but Dallas is the master of choke this season and credit for Seattle not giving up.
jasonrh said:
He´s busy studying Texas game film with Pete Carroll.
jasonrh said:
Let's try this.
I think Texas has a good shot at beating So Cal because they have a better defense.
Well, I watched last year´s Rose Bowl yesterday and if they have Matthew McConaughey interview during the game again this year I´m gonna freak out.
MrMarcello said:That was the Washington game (the 10 point reference), I just mixed them up.
So get your panties unwadded.
Seattle played very well defensively, but they did let Barber run for 95 yards on 22 carries, and the Boys had 164 rushing yards which is a horrible stat for a defense (but only allowed 136 gross passing yards). Therefore, Dallas dominated time of possession, 34:08 - 25:52, limiting Seattle's ability to move the ball offensively. Meanwhile, Dallas shut down Shaun Alexander, limiting him to 61 yards on 21 carries. Seattle finished with 72 yards rushing and 224 passing (gross), of which 12 rushing yards and 58 passing yards came on the last drive, the game tying TD. Bledsoe then throws an INT and Brown kicks a 50 yard FG on the next play to win the game. If Cortez makes the 'chipshot' 29 yard FG early in the 4th, Bledsoe is not throwing a pass with under 1 minute remaining. It's clearly a game Seattle had no business winning, but Dallas is the master of choke this season and credit for Seattle not giving up.
My panties unwaded? kinell, it was just a comment, nothing I was uptight about or anything. I will admit that we did get a bit lucky in that game, but I just thought it was a bit unfair to say that Dallas dominated it, when the reality of it was, that it was a defensive battle between the two teams. Yes, we allowed more yardage, but we did so to the point where we were still able to win the game..