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wythykid · Apr 29, 2002

Please note: the clueless bastards at TSN have moved the Leverkusen v United game to 11:30pm (ET) tomorrow.

I'm feeling almost homicidal at the minute

cnuts!!

Raoul · Apr 29, 2002

Do you have a dishnetwork or directv system ? ESPN2 are showing it LIVE.

FlaReds · Apr 29, 2002

Originally posted by wythykid:
[QB]Please note: the clueless bastards at TSN have moved the Leverkusen v United game to 11:30pm (ET) tomorrow.

Hey wythy!!!!! Welcome aboard the Canadian xpress..........I know how you feel.......The feckers who control what goes on tv should be shot in the bolloks.....Doesn't matter what happens...they have to screw around with someone!!!! Keep the faith!!!!! "KEEP THE RED FLAG FLYING HIGH" <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" /> <img src="graemlins/angel.gif" border="0" alt="[Angel]" /> <img src="graemlins/devil.gif" border="0" alt="[Devil]" />

MauritianRed · Apr 29, 2002

My local TV listing shows it at 9 p.m. on TSN (Mountain time). Are you in Toronto Wyth? If so, you should be receiving it at 11, not 11.30!

AMS · Apr 29, 2002

Up until March this year I was in Kenya (called a Third world country by the West) and used to receive all Champions league matches free via national TV. Now I have moved to Canada (a developed and industrialized country) and I can't watch a decent match live - mind you even after paying for it!!

rz99 · Apr 29, 2002

Most pubs have ESPN 2. Shouldn't be a problem watching it live.

wythykid · Apr 29, 2002

Originally posted by MauritianRed:
My local TV listing shows it at 9 p.m. on TSN (Mountain time). Are you in Toronto Wyth? If so, you should be receiving it at 11, not 11.30!<hr></blockquote>

Just west of Toronto, mate. Here's what I got from <a href="http://www.soccertv.com" target="_blank">www.soccertv.com</a> :

Semifinal 2nd Leg
Bayer Leverkusen (Germany) vs Manchester United (England)
ESPN2 (US)
RDS (Canada)
Tu Apr 30 2:30pm ET/11:30am PT LIVE
TSN (Canada)
Tu Apr 30 11:30pm ET/8:30pm PT SDD *** note schedule change ***

Who knows with these muppets, by tomorrow it could be something else. I'll look for a pub with an ESPN2 feed.

Raoul · Apr 29, 2002

Originally posted by wythykid:


Just west of Toronto, mate. Here's what I got from <a href="http://www.soccertv.com" target="_blank">www.soccertv.com</a> :

Semifinal 2nd Leg
Bayer Leverkusen (Germany) vs Manchester United (England)
ESPN2 (US)
RDS (Canada)
Tu Apr 30 2:30pm ET/11:30am PT LIVE
TSN (Canada)
Tu Apr 30 11:30pm ET/8:30pm PT SDD *** note schedule change ***

Who knows with these muppets, by tomorrow it could be something else. I'll look for a pub with an ESPN2 feed.<hr></blockquote>

Half the homes in Missassauga and Scarborough have DirecTV dishes. Find a long lost friend and pop in for a couple of hours.

wythykid · Apr 29, 2002

Originally posted by Raoul:
Do you have a dishnetwork or directv system ? ESPN2 are showing it LIVE.<hr></blockquote>

Both these services were recently declared illegal by the Canadian Supreme Court. We have to rely on either Bell ExpressVu or Starchoice. Neither of them offer ESPN or ESPN2.

wythykid · Apr 29, 2002

Originally posted by Raoul:


Half the homes in Missassauga and Scarborough have DirecTV dishes. Find a long lost friend and pop in for a couple of hours. <hr></blockquote>

Working on it

Cheers..

Raoul · Apr 29, 2002

Originally posted by wythykid:


Both these services were recently declared illegal by the Canadian Supreme Court. We have to rely on either Bell ExpressVu or Starchoice. Neither of them offer ESPN or ESPN2.<hr></blockquote>

Last time I was there (last month) they were still considered 'Grey Market'. Technically illegal, but not enforcable since home owners have the right to claim owner ship of the airspace on their property. In Woodbridge, there are advertisements on the street for free DirecTV installation etc.

wythykid · Apr 29, 2002

Originally posted by Raoul:


Last time I was there (last month) they were still considered 'Grey Market'. Technically illegal, but not enforcable since home owners have the right to claim owner ship of the airspace on their property. In Woodbridge, there are advertisements on the street for free DirecTV installation etc.<hr></blockquote>

I suspect that won't be for much longer:

April 27, 2002 Grey market dishes illegal, court rules Middlemen facing RCMP crackdown Ian Jack National Post OTTAWA - Hundreds of thousands of Canadians are breaking the law when they get their satellite TV from anyone other than ExpressVu or StarChoice, the Supreme Court of Canada ruled yesterday. In a unanimous ruling, it overturned a lower court that said there was nothing in Canadian law to prevent consumers from tapping into foreign -- mainly U.S. -- satellites using equipment bought from Canadian vendors.

I'll have to find some nice, cosy pub with an illegal feed

Kristjan · Apr 29, 2002

Originally posted by wythykid:


April 27, 2002 Grey market dishes illegal, court rules Middlemen facing RCMP crackdown Ian Jack National Post OTTAWA - Hundreds of thousands of Canadians are breaking the law when they get their satellite TV from anyone other than ExpressVu or StarChoice, the Supreme Court of Canada ruled yesterday. In a unanimous ruling, it overturned a lower court that said there was nothing in Canadian law to prevent consumers from tapping into foreign -- mainly U.S. -- satellites using equipment bought from Canadian vendors.

<hr></blockquote>

That's one of the most ridicilous rulings I've ever heard. How can they rule that you can't aim your dish wherever you want ?

MauritianRed · Apr 29, 2002

Originally posted by Kristjan:


That's one of the most ridicilous rulings I've ever heard. How can they rule that you can't aim your dish wherever you want ?<hr></blockquote>

You can point your dish wherever you want to. The problem is the receiver card which is "illegally" programmed.

Peltz · Apr 29, 2002

Just checked the TSN website and it said the game is on at 2:30PM Eastern Standard Time.

Peltz

Kristjan · Apr 29, 2002

Originally posted by MauritianRed:


You can point your dish wherever you want to. The problem is the receiver card which is "illegally" programmed.<hr></blockquote>

Ok, that quote from the ruling didn't say that

AMS · Apr 30, 2002

Originally posted by MauritianRed:


You can point your dish wherever you want to. The problem is the receiver card which is "illegally" programmed.<hr></blockquote>

This is not the reason they were banned! I think it was Bell Vu who filed the case because the Grey market was eating into their market. If it was the illegal cards it should be the US satellite stations that should be suing. <img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[No No]" />

MauritianRed · Apr 30, 2002

Originally posted by AMS:


This is not the reason they were banned! I think it was Bell Vu who filed the case because the Grey market was eating into their market. If it was the illegal cards it should be the US satellite stations that should be suing. <img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[No No]" /> <hr></blockquote>
It's actually a bit of both. The US satellite companies don't have any authority over the Canadian users so they resort to zapping the card every five minutes. Bell Express Vu (and IMO Shaw Cable too) filed cases, as there are hundreds of thousands Canadians using the "grey area" dishes. I had the satellite until very recently, but got fed up as it was going down almost every day. Everything is still connected, however I don't think that constitutes an illegal act unless you get caught using the illegally programmed card.

wizardgiggs · Apr 30, 2002

hey!!!!!!!!!go to Scallywag's tomorrow at 2:30 pm.....you can see live there!!!!!!!
11 st.Clair Avenue West (yonge and St.Clair)416-922-3737

let's be there to cheer for united!!!!!!
<img src="graemlins/devil.gif" border="0" alt="[Devil]" /> <img src="graemlins/devil.gif" border="0" alt="[Devil]" /> <img src="graemlins/devil.gif" border="0" alt="[Devil]" /> <img src="graemlins/devil.gif" border="0" alt="[Devil]" />

AMS · Apr 30, 2002

Originally posted by wizardgiggs:
hey!!!!!!!!!go to Scallywag's tomorrow at 2:30 pm.....you can see live there!!!!!!!
11 st.Clair Avenue West (yonge and St.Clair)416-922-3737
let's be there to cheer for united!!!!!!
<img src="graemlins/devil.gif" border="0" alt="[Devil]" /> <img src="graemlins/devil.gif" border="0" alt="[Devil]" /> <img src="graemlins/devil.gif" border="0" alt="[Devil]" /> <img src="graemlins/devil.gif" border="0" alt="[Devil]" /> <hr></blockquote>

Thanks mate!! Will try to be there! Let's GO REDS!!
<img src="graemlins/devil.gif" border="0" alt="[Devil]" />

AMS · Apr 30, 2002

Originally posted by MauritianRed:

It's actually a bit of both. The US satellite companies don't have any authority over the Canadian users so they resort to zapping the card every five minutes. Bell Express Vu (and IMO Shaw Cable too) filed cases, as there are hundreds of thousands Canadians using the "grey area" dishes. I had the satellite until very recently, but got fed up as it was going down almost every day. Everything is still connected, however I don't think that constitutes an illegal act unless you get caught using the illegally programmed card.<hr></blockquote>

Yup, I dont think the law enforcers will be targeting endusers, only the middlemen.

darko · Apr 30, 2002

Originally posted by AMS:
Up until March this year I was in Kenya (called a Third world country by the West) and used to receive all Champions league matches free via national TV. Now I have moved to Canada (a developed and industrialized country) and I can't watch a decent match live - mind you even after paying for it!!
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Thank the CRTC for that. Crap. They cost me $6.5 per wireless phone for the use of their air space. Thanks Canada. You want satilite or digital TV? Be prepared to buy a package of 7 sports channels just so you will get Fox Sports World. It's a requirement by law ( ) that every Canadian must watch curling or face a prison sentence! i'm tired of having to tape CL matches because they are on at 3:30am ET.

Hey federal government. I guess free trade and NAFTA had nothing in it for TV viewers. If it was up to me, I'd get rid of the CRTC. They are keeping of TV service in the dark ages. Atleast grey and black market satilite systems are providing some alternative. But, it looks as if the feds are going to clamp down on the dealers.

AMS · Apr 30, 2002

Originally posted by darko:


Thank the CRTC for that. Crap. They cost me $6.5 per wireless phone for the use of their air space. Thanks Canada. You want satilite or digital TV? Be prepared to buy a package of 7 sports channels just so you will get Fox Sports World. It's a requirement by law ( ) that every Canadian must watch curling or face a prison sentence! i'm tired of having to tape CL matches because they are on at 3:30am ET.

Hey federal government. I guess free trade and NAFTA had nothing in it for TV viewers. If it was up to me, I'd get rid of the CRTC. They are keeping of TV service in the dark ages. Atleast grey and black market satilite systems are providing some alternative. But, it looks as if the feds are going to clamp down on the dealers.<hr></blockquote>

It's a Total Ripoff if you ask me!!

Lanesra · Apr 30, 2002

Originally posted by wythykid:
Please note: the clueless bastards at TSN have moved the Leverkusen v United game to 11:30pm (ET) tomorrow.

I'm feeling almost homicidal at the minute

cnuts!!<hr></blockquote>

Good, then I can watch Leverkusen kick your arse after the Maple Leafs game......

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