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Say you have 50 million quid to spend on players next year. What should the first team look like?


------------------ Barthez -----------------------

-- G Nev --- Nesta ------ Hofland --- Silvestre --

---- Beckham ---- Keane ---- Veron ---- Giggs ----

-------------- RVN ------------- Del Piero -------

SELL:
Walwork - 3 mil
Fortune - 4 mil
Butt - 10 mil
Scholes - 22 mill
Yorke - 5 mill
Total: 44 mill

BUY:

Hofland - 16 mill
Nesta - 28 mill
Del Piero - 32 mill
Tudor - 18 mill

Total: 94 mill

Spend 50 mill :D

Then, Tudor can cover for Gaz, Hofland or Keane, if need be, Del Piero can form a dream team with Ruud (10x better than DiCanio) and Nesta and Hofland can permanently close the leaks in our defense.
 
I would buy:

Wayne Bridge
Steve Carr
Tudor
One up-and-coming versatile full-back for competition's sake

The back four line-up will be:

Carr Neville Tudor Bridge

Silvestre and O'Shea can fight it out

Johnsen, Phillip, Irwin, May, Brown and Wallwork can go.

Blanc can be kept ONLY as an emergency back-up and possibly in a defensive coach/advisory role. If he wants a regular fist-team place, sorry OT ain't the place.

None of the midfield should go - they are more than capable of holding their own when playing, unlike our defenders.

For the strikers, buy Cisse or some other jet-heeled striker to make it four. We need pace in attack. Obviously Yorke has to go.

Lastly, buy a up-and-coming keeper to challenge Barthez for a first-team spot as Caroll isn't doing enough on that aspect.
 
Originally posted by lchk:
<strong>I would buy:
Wayne Bridge
Steve Carr
Tudor
One up-and-coming versatile full-back for competition's sake
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Ichk, you talk so much bullshit. Just how many defenders do we need? You just mentioned three plus an extra to challenge - what the feck is that about? United need one maybe two CB to work with Larry for next season, with Johnsen, Brown or O'Shea stepping in. Which brings us to the next point:

Originally posted by lchk:
<strong>Johnsen, Phillip, Irwin, May, Brown and Wallwork can go.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Why the hell would Sir Alex want to do that? He has more sense than to throw out three of his main defenders. Phil is very much in our plans and it is obvious he can do a job on the left and the right - this thing called versatility can come in handy. Wes Brown is one of the best players to come through the youth team since 1992. Granted, he has not progressed as some would of liked, but he is only about 22. Once he finds he has to battle it out to be a CB, he will shine again. Ronny still has plenty left. He is only 32 which is good going for a defender and I believe his injury trouble may be over - I hope to god United give him a new contract.

Originally posted by lchk:
<strong>Blanc can be kept ONLY as an emergency back-up and possibly in a defensive coach/advisory role. If he wants a regular fist-team place, sorry OT ain't the place.</strong><hr></blockquote> You seem to have missed something - Blanc has easily been our best defender this year, and without Larry I doubt we would be top of the league. Maybe not first choice for 100% of the games, but Larry (Like Ronnie) can prove a point next year.
Originally posted by lchk:
<strong>Lastly, buy a up-and-coming keeper to challenge Barthez for a first-team spot as Caroll isn't doing enough on that aspect.</strong><hr></blockquote>
This comment puzzled me most. What has Carroll done to displease anyone? Maybe he looked shaky v Villa in the cup but otherwise he has been flawless when stepping in for Barthez - I have no doubts he can be first choice in a few years.

Other than that, here are my 2 cents:

Sell May, Wallwork, Yorke & Irwin, plus a few youth/reserve players who look like they are going nowhere (Djordic anyone? :( Sad I know but it seems like he has missed his chance).

Buy Hofland (maybe Nesta, depending on whether or not Larry calls it a day) and one out of either Mal Christie, Cisse (starting to be put off by that option) or Dean Ashton - they are all young and let's face it - most strikers will be able to do well as long as the midfield does the business, maybe Di Canio to balance the 'you need four strikers' rule out.
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Ichk, you talk so much bullshit. Just how many defenders do we need? You just mentioned three plus an extra to challenge - what the feck is that about? United need one maybe two CB to work with Larry for next season, with Johnsen, Brown or O'Shea stepping in. Which brings us to the next point:
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In the first place, learn to respect other people's opinions before you mouth off about "bullshit".

The reason I quoted 4 new defenders was firstly this is fantasy football so I have carte blanche on my choices and secondly there are better defenders out there than our current back four.

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Why the hell would Sir Alex want to do that? He has more sense than to throw out three of his main defenders. Phil is very much in our plans and it is obvious he can do a job on the left and the right - this thing called versatility can come in handy. Wes Brown is one of the best players to come through the youth team since 1992. Granted, he has not progressed as some would of liked, but he is only about 22. Once he finds he has to battle it out to be a CB, he will shine again. Ronny still has plenty left. He is only 32 which is good going for a defender and I believe his injury trouble may be over - I hope to god United give him a new contract.
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Phil Neville - he's an average player and has been found out several times on the pitch. Can be replaced by an up-and-coming youngster.

Brown - he's not that young anymore to be considered a future star (23) and lacks the mental strength to pull him through bad runs. Its seems that O'Shea has a more matured head on his shoulders despite being three years younger.

Johnsen - too injury proned. How many more games is he going to play before he breaks down again? At 32, his knees are not going to hold up as well as a 25 year old.

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You seem to have missed something - Blanc has easily been our best defender this year, and without Larry I doubt we would be top of the league. Maybe not first choice for 100% of the games, but Larry (Like Ronnie) can prove a point next year.
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Blanc will be 37 next year - would you want to play a player in his sunset footballing years as a first-teamer or a 20-something peak of his form player? I know who I would choose.

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This comment puzzled me most. What has Carroll done to displease anyone? Maybe he looked shaky v Villa in the cup but otherwise he has been flawless when stepping in for Barthez - I have no doubts he can be first choice in a few years.
Other than that, here are my 2 cents:
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Let's just say there are better keepers out there to challenge Barthez.
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GK - Barthez
LB - Silvestre
CB - Nesta
CB - Tudor
RB - Brown
LM - Giggs
CM - Keane
CM - Veron
RM - Beckham
FC - Van Nistelrooy
FC - Crespo

SUBS - Carroll/Neville/Scholes/Solskjaer/


IN - Nesta/Tudor/Crespo

OUT - May/Yorke/Blanc(retired)
 
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5th Sub - Butt or Forlan

OUT - Wallwork/Johnsen/Irwin(hopefully a youth team coaching position or something similar)

NEW SIGNINGS -
Nesta - £20 - £25million
Crespo - £25 - £30million
Tudor - £8 - £10million

A blend of world class experience, defensive quality and leadership, proven goal scoring ability as well as promising young talent.
 
Originally posted by Suedesi:
<strong>Say you have 50 million quid to spend on players next year. What should the first team look like?


------------------ Barthez -----------------------

-- G Nev --- Nesta ------ Hofland --- Silvestre --

---- Beckham ---- Keane ---- Veron ---- Giggs ----

-------------- RVN ------------- Del Piero -------

SELL:
Walwork - 3 mil
Fortune - 4 mil
Butt - 10 mil
Scholes - 22 mill
Yorke - 5 mill
Total: 44 mill

BUY:

Hofland - 16 mill
Nesta - 28 mill
Del Piero - 32 mill
Tudor - 18 mill

Total: 94 mill

Spend 50 mill :D

Then, Tudor can cover for Gaz, Hofland or Keane, if need be, Del Piero can form a dream team with Ruud (10x better than DiCanio) and Nesta and Hofland can permanently close the leaks in our defense.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Let me offer you a real dilema. Giggs probably misses at least a dozen matches a season. Beckham is the only one who is capable of playing a near full schedule. Now that Scholes and Butt are gone, who is your cover im dfield for 25 - 40 + matches? Chadwick? Stewart? Big miss.

Tudor will not be sitting on the bench at 18 million.

As awfull as our defence has been this season, Bartez has been the biggest disappointment. If it wasn't for his bad spell in October and November, we'd have run away with the league.
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Originally posted by Cigar:
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NEW SIGNINGS -
Nesta - £20 - £25million
Crespo - £25 - £30million
Tudor - £8 - £10million

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This is a fantasy. Top Seria scorer for 25 million. What did it cost Roma to get a 30 + year old Batistuta?

How about Rivaldo for 20 million? Figo for 20 million? ;)
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Let me offer you a real dilema. Giggs probably misses at least a dozen matches a season. Beckham is the only one who is capable of playing a near full schedule. Now that Scholes and Butt are gone, who is your cover im dfield for 25 - 40 + matches? Chadwick? Stewart? Big miss.
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Tudor.
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Tudor will not be sitting on the bench at 18 million.
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Scholesy does ;)
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As awfull as our defence has been this season, Bartez has been the biggest disappointment. If it wasn't for his bad spell in October and November, we'd have run away with the league.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Tough one about Barthez. I'd give him another chance while bringing in a talented yuongsters able to sit inif Barthez fecks up.
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Originally posted by Cigar:
<strong>Click the add reply button back accident, feckin hate when that happens.

5th Sub - Butt or Forlan

OUT - Wallwork/Johnsen/Irwin(hopefully a youth team coaching position or something similar)

NEW SIGNINGS -
Nesta - £20 - £25million
Crespo - £25 - £30million
Tudor - £8 - £10million

A blend of world class experience, defensive quality and leadership, proven goal scoring ability as well as promising young talent.</strong><hr></blockquote>


If those players cost as much as you say... buy Shevchenko, Vieri and Zanetti too ;)
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Originally posted by darko:
<strong>

This is a fantasy. Top Seria scorer for 25 million. What did it cost Roma to get a 30 + year old Batistuta?

How about Rivaldo for 20 million? Figo for 20 million? ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

Exactly <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
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Sell All defenders except G Neville and Silvestre and Yorke and Fortune.

Buy Tudor Nesta Contra Javi Moreno Lm backup Mexes dunno cost lol. back to warcraft 3 now.
 
Originally posted by Richter:
<strong>Sell All defenders except G Neville and Silvestre and Yorke and Fortune.

Buy Tudor Nesta Contra Javi Moreno Lm backup Mexes dunno cost lol. back to warcraft 3 now.</strong><hr></blockquote>


Im not normally one to fuss (generally as Im the one making mistakes ;) ) However, Since when has Yorke and Fortune been defenders ;)

Oh... and all of you that said David May should be sold... One day he'll come back fighting fit... just you wait ;)
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get nesta...world class...one of THE best central defenders on the planet
hofland is great or tudor

as for a striker...how's a bout Javier Saviola
u might think he's young but like owen he'll be knocking in goal after goal before long <img src="graemlins/devil.gif" border="0" alt="[Devil]" />
 
Darko/Sudesi - look at the fact lazio are in some serious debt, of which they still owe £16 million quid to Man Utd for the transfer of stam, the fact of the matter is they have to sell and this will have to be done at a loss to satisfy other financial commitments, look up the word depreciation then you'll understand why we could get nesta and crespo for cheaper, p.s. where is crespo ranked on the list of top serie a scorers this season, answer he's not, check the stats mate! :)
 
Originally posted by darko:
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As awfull as our defence has been this season, Bartez has been the biggest disappointment. If it wasn't for his bad spell in October and November, we'd have run away with the league.</strong><hr></blockquote>

All Barthez cost us in the league was a point at Highbury, MAYBE a point at Liverpool. We didn't deserve anything from those matches in any event.

As for the one saying Lazio owe us for Stam - this may or may NOT be true. This is just a rumour and in any event, I doubt Crespo and Nesta are hot on the idea of going to England.

And if you wonder, Lazio WILL sell to the highest bidder, even if it's an Italian club and they have a smaller offer from abroad.

As for Ichk who basically suggests we should be left with 6 senior defenders... <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" />
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