So nice to hear this...
Evra: The club refused to provide SAF with 200 millions to sign Ronaldo and Bale back in 2013.
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So nice to hear this...
That's been said before that we had opportunity to go for both Bale & Modric, but the club didn't want to pay as much as Real offered them.
SAF was held back by the Glazers, the infamous there is no values in the market.
When we needed an forward and a midfielder, and we allowed Silva and Aguero to go to City, that's when you thought "our owners are clearly stupid then." Fergie might have stayed a few more years if he'd have had the type of players he wanted.
Proper sliding doors moment, the Glazers taking over. We were spending a fair whack in the early 00s, with Rio, Ruud, Veron, and then after 2005 we suddenly stopped - we didn’t even replace Ronaldo.
So many top players went elsewhere because we couldn’t or refused to keep up with the rising values. And it resulted in us getting left behind.
So many top players went elsewhere because we couldn’t or refused to keep up with the rising values. And it resulted in us getting left behind.
SAF fell out with the previous owners and didn't hide it. There's no reason to think SAF was held back because there's a strong chance that he'd have gone public if he was.
He left in his 70s after winning the league and putting United clear on top. He had a title winning side.
I hate the Glazers too but Fergie seemed fine with how his tenure ended.
Imagine SAF's United with proper owners behind him who actually cared about the success of the club, instead of just lining their own pockets. We'd have been unstoppable.
Feck the Glazers.
Feck the Glazers.
Our trajectory might have been different had we signed players like Aguero, Modric, Kroos etc. Obviously our decline was inevitable with the clown show we've been since Fergie left but some of those players would have helped us stay dominant for longer.
What he's saying is that he would have stayed on as well if they had accepted.
I was under the impression he retired to support his wife because her sister died, so he would have retired anyway?
He played for Juve for 2.5 seasons after he left us. So, I guess he could have stayed if Fergie was still our manager.
I remember that at the time there were strong murmurs that Ronaldo wanted to come back. I was 99% sure myself that he was coming home because he was having a tough time integrating into the Madrid side. Their fans also didn't seem to warm up to him at first. Knowing his speacial relationship with SAF, I was certain we were going to see his return.
It also makes sense since Mourinho had a meltdown when he finished 2nd and the Glazers refused to invest a penny that summer. Plenty of journalists have reported that the Glazers see no reason to invest once we achieve top4 consistently.
What a bunch of despicable rat bastard cnuts these Glazer leeches are. No matter how much you despise them, it is never enough.
The thought that these idiots drove out SAF with their frugal policy, then hung out dry Moyes in his first season because he had a Top4 squad makes my blood boil. Only to invest a billion since SAF retired and still have nothing to show for it. Deep down I hope ETH succeeds in turning us into Forest or Bornemouth, cause then the shares will plummet and these leeches can feck off to their hurricane infested shithole in Florida.
I never thought about it, but what if the reason SAF retired is because the Glazers never gave him any money and the whole, his wife missing him was just a PR story for the fans. Sure, he pretended that there was no value in the market, however in reality everyone knows that SAF loved buying expensive and quality players.
It also makes sense since Mourinho had a meltdown when he finished 2nd and the Glazers refused to invest a penny that summer. Plenty of journalists have reported that the Glazers see no reason to invest once we achieve top4 consistently.
What a bunch of despicable rat bastard cnuts these Glazer leeches are. No matter how much you despise them, it is never enough.
The thought that these idiots drove out SAF with their frugal policy, then hung out dry Moyes in his first season because he had a Top4 squad makes my blood boil. Only to invest a billion since SAF retired and still have nothing to show for it. Deep down I hope ETH succeeds in turning us into Forest or Bornemouth, cause then the shares will plummet and these leeches can feck off to their hurricane infested shithole in Florida.
SAF or Moyes?
This 100%. Letting them go while were fecking around with cleverly, bebe and obertan and michael owen.
Hate that expression.
Terrible film. Stolen legacy.
Good points, mind, not sure how much impact Moyes would have had on Modric, Bale and Ronaldo. LvG either. di Maria was infamously squandered by him.
Probably one-hundred crosses per match instead of ninety? Modric lateral passing?
Who knows?
I believe this, because I remember Ronaldo's Madrid home being put up for sale in early 2013, and I'm pretty sure we were also in for Bale but both the player's and Levy's preference was Madrid
Given that Bale eventually cost Madrid 85 million that summer, Evra is implying Ronaldo was also available for 115 million after Madrid signed him for 90 a few years earlier and he became even better?
It's pretty clear Evra is bullsh*ting, which is not surprising coming from him.
It's pretty clear Evra is bullsh*ting, which is not surprising coming from him.
United signed Fellaini in 2013.
Imagine pep leaving city , an unproven manager at that level being appointed to replace him and the club signs a fellaini level signing. Imagine how the league winning squad would feel.
RVP was already angry that he was only getting one year with SAF, it’s no coincidence his form collapsed the next season and the players didn’t respond to Moyes.
United needed to make really high profile signings/statements for Moyes but they totally f**ked him.
I’m not saying Moyes would of done any better but the club undermined him from the start.
A parallel but similar scenario happened when United finished 2nd and signed Dalot and Fred to help bridge a massive gap to city. The club has persistently failed managers and squads, wasting money cause we had been awful at negotiating and planning. Extending contracts to pad out the squad and prop up the squad value on the books.
Imagine pep leaving city , an unproven manager at that level being appointed to replace him and the club signs a fellaini level signing. Imagine how the league winning squad would feel.
RVP was already angry that he was only getting one year with SAF, it’s no coincidence his form collapsed the next season and the players didn’t respond to Moyes.
United needed to make really high profile signings/statements for Moyes but they totally f**ked him.
I’m not saying Moyes would of done any better but the club undermined him from the start.
A parallel but similar scenario happened when United finished 2nd and signed Dalot and Fred to help bridge a massive gap to city. The club has persistently failed managers and squads, wasting money cause we had been awful at negotiating and planning. Extending contracts to pad out the squad and prop up the squad value on the books.
You're saying you don't trust a man that licks raw chicken?
I really doubt evra would know that level of informal
That's crazy!!! There must be 200 millions in a single pack of millions. You can buy a pack of strawberry ones for 62p in my local shop!
Imagine being offered Ronaldo and Bale for 62p and turning it down...
Imagine being offered Ronaldo and Bale for 62p and turning it down...
Yeah Moyes has said in interviews that we were trying to get Bale when he first became manager. I'm convinced Ronaldo was using us for a new contract at Madrid.
Fergie also signed Thiago as a gift for Moyes but he turned him down.
Fergie also signed Thiago as a gift for Moyes but he turned him down.
Moyes is also to blame for that. There's a reason why he had the nickname 'dithering Dave' at Everton.
He retired 4 years after leaving Man United.
He left Man United because they spent 30 million quid on Luke Shaw.
Front 3 of Bale, Ronaldo & RvP with Rooney in behind.
Wtf I didn't even know that
, I was thinking more about his general eccentricity and that he didn't pay support to his wife and kid.All the damage was done in the 2009 summer transfer window and onwards.
2009: Valencia, Obertan, Diouf, Owen. Super underwhelming considering what we lost.
2010: Bebe, Smalling, Chicarito, Lindegaard. Potential and long-shots.
2011: De Gea, Jones, Young. Replacement keeper, potential and solid PL winger.
That three-span window was really critical. As we lost Ronaldo and Tevez, while Ferdinand, Vidic, Scholes, Giggs, etc. were all nearing their expiry date, we didn't bring in a single established high-profile player. The 12/13 season papered over cracks with a short-term solution in van Persie, but we've been playing catch-up ever since. Fecking Glazers.
2009: Valencia, Obertan, Diouf, Owen. Super underwhelming considering what we lost.
2010: Bebe, Smalling, Chicarito, Lindegaard. Potential and long-shots.
2011: De Gea, Jones, Young. Replacement keeper, potential and solid PL winger.
That three-span window was really critical. As we lost Ronaldo and Tevez, while Ferdinand, Vidic, Scholes, Giggs, etc. were all nearing their expiry date, we didn't bring in a single established high-profile player. The 12/13 season papered over cracks with a short-term solution in van Persie, but we've been playing catch-up ever since. Fecking Glazers.
Yep. Proper shortsighted stuff.
Wtf I didn't even know that
Forgot about the child support.
He's a complete toerag altogether.
I remember being angry that even SAF was forced to play nicely with this "no value in the market" bullshit. Did we get Valencia the year we sold Ronaldo?
Football Heritage as Mourinho said.
I recall the reports coming out at OT at the time that SAF regarded David Silva as ' too small ' to compete in the PL. Then a year later we signed Kagawa.
Maybe the reports were bs and SAF simply didn't rate Silva that highly , maybe the fee Valencia were asking turned him off or maybe SAF just had a complete 180 .
Still, what a dropped bollock that was.
We played Valencia too on the eve when the rumours were at their peak I seem to remember.
Maybe the reports were bs and SAF simply didn't rate Silva that highly , maybe the fee Valencia were asking turned him off or maybe SAF just had a complete 180 .
Still, what a dropped bollock that was.
We played Valencia too on the eve when the rumours were at their peak I seem to remember.
The biggest issue I have with United though came from their arrogant attitude towards their lazy succession plan in finding a adequate replacement for SAF.
The club were so cock-sure of themselves and they fecked it up.
The club were so cock-sure of themselves and they fecked it up.
Hmm... It was a very well known facts that after Glazers took over with leverage buyout that saddled the club with huge debts, it heavily affected our ability to spend on transfers. Especially in the initial period of Glazers take over, we have heavy debts to pay with high interests. Where have you been?
Otherwise we surely have the resources to resign Ronaldo and maybe also sign Bale.
Otherwise we surely have the resources to resign Ronaldo and maybe also sign Bale.
That 2009 transfer window was diabolical back then and looks even worse in hindsight. 2010 just as bad if not worse. 2011 was a lot better (Phil Jones was one of the best CB prospects and DDG was one of the best at his position) but our recruitment was shocking. This was the time where City strengthened with signings like Aguero and David Silva to build their foundation.
Lucas Moura and Hazard too
any excuse to shit on our owners 
he hasn’t managed us for over a decade, and he wants to spend a fortune on a retired golfer and and a stat padding 40 year old. glad he was told no.
he hasn’t managed us for over a decade, and he wants to spend a fortune on a retired golfer and and a stat padding 40 year old. glad he was told no.
I remember the Ronaldo return rumours and that it was all to be revealed on August 8th. That Summer was horrendous. Bid £27m for Fellaini and Baines and end up with just Fellaini for £28m.
All the more bizarre when you think the exact same thing happened in the late 60s.
That would have been quite something. Knowing Moyes though he would still have found a way to shoehorn Fellaini in there somewhere.