England Squad + Match Discussion (The Tuchel Era) | Jordan Henderson, Dan Burn, Kyle Walker all called up

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Goalkeepers:

Jordan Pickford
Dean Henderson
Aaron Ramsdale
James Trafford
Defenders:

Marc Guehi
Reece James
Levi Colwill
Ezri Konsa
Tino Livramento
Jarell Quansah
Dan Burn
Kyle Walker
Myles Lewis-Skelly
Midfielders:

Jude Bellingham
Eberechi Eze
Jordan Henderson
Curtis Jones
Cole Palmer
Declan Rice
Morgan Rogers
Forwards:

Anthony Gordon
Jarrod Bowen
Phil Foden
Marcus Rashford
Dominic Solanke
Harry Kane
 
Find it weird that Burn and Quansah are both ahead of Branthwaite and Henderson is ahead of Wharton.
 
Look, I like Marcus, it was a joy watching him in his early years, but can someone explain why he gets a call up.

He's the same player he was last season and the first part of this one, maybe he is smiling more. I can't see this change they all talk about at all.
 
Look, I like Marcus, it was a joy watching him in his early years, but can someone explain why he gets a call up.

He's the same player he was last season and the first part of this one, maybe he is smiling more. I can't see this change they all talk about at all.

Tuchel wants an up close look at him.
 
Look, I like Marcus, it was a joy watching him in his early years, but can someone explain why he gets a call up.

He's the same player he was last season and the first part of this one, maybe he is smiling more. I can't see this change they all talk about at all.
We're short on wingers at the moment with Saka injured and Madueke too. Can't think of anyone obvious who'd go up in his place.
 
This is shite. Very disappointed.

Hendo and Walker have already been phased out the squad so why are they back in? If they are part of the WC squad I will be fecking livid.

Dan Burn also should be nowhere near this squad. Don't see the need for 4 GK's either, and Rashford hasn't done enough to justify getting back in. Another ego stroke for him considering he's hardly been pulling up trees at Villa so far.

Hoped to see Wharton, Delap, maybe Nwaneri in this squad. It's pretty clear from this that he is solely focused on the short-term which I understand with his contract length as he's obviously tasked with winning the WC, but there are players in this squad who should not even be in contention so I don't understand why they're here. Even with the injuries there's better options.
 
Look, I like Marcus, it was a joy watching him in his early years, but can someone explain why he gets a call up.

He's the same player he was last season and the first part of this one, maybe he is smiling more. I can't see this change they all talk about at all.
He's been quite good for Villa to be fair
 
Is anyone missing who should be there?

I'm assuming Hall from Newcastle is injured?

I don't think so. Notable injuries:

Saka
Watkins
Gomez
Trent
Stones
Shaw
Mount
Mainoo
Maguire
Hall
 
This is shite. Very disappointed.

Hendo and Walker have already been phased out the squad so why are they back in? If they are part of the WC squad I will be fecking livid.

Dan Burn also should be nowhere near this squad. Don't see the need for 4 GK's either, and Rashford hasn't done enough to justify getting back in. Another ego stroke for him considering he's hardly been pulling up trees at Villa so far.

Hoped to see Wharton, Delap, maybe Nwaneri in this squad. It's pretty clear from this that he is solely focused on the short-term which I understand with his contract length as he's obviously focused on the WC, but there are players in this squad who should not even be in contention.

Working on the short term would be fair enough if it wasn’t for the fact walker and Henderson will be 36 by the time the World Cup rolls round, they’re on the decline and it’s basically a gamble that they will still be good enough by then.
If they smash it in there relevant leagues next season and are the best options then fair enough, pick them
 
Working on the short term would be fair enough if it wasn’t for the fact walker and Henderson will be 36 by the time the World Cup rolls round, they’re on the decline and it’s basically a gamble that they will still be good enough by then.
If they smash it in there relevant leagues next season and are the best options then fair enough, pick them
Tuchel has no problem playing old dudes if they're good enough and he thinks they're a positive influence. Silva at Chelsea for example.
 
fecking Jordan Henderson? Just feck off what is wrong with these people? Where’s he going to be in 2026?
 
Baffling is that he thinks he has a better chance with old over the hill players than he does with chomping at the bit to prove themselves younger players.
 
I don't think so. Notable injuries:

Saka
Watkins
Gomez
Trent
Stones
Shaw
Mount
Mainoo
Maguire
Hall
I didn't realise there were so many injuries so fair enough.

A bit of an uninspiring squad though I'm not sure who I would have in there that's missed out. I still think surely we have better options than Burn or Henderson though.

Are we that short on RB options right now that Reece James gets in too? Is he even fit?
 
Baffling is that he thinks he has a better chance with old over the hill players than he does with chomping at the bit to prove themselves younger players.

Every successful team ever has a mix of ages. You can't have all kids.

I've no idea if Henderson (probably not) or Walker (maybe) will start for England but in a huge squad, having 2 players in their mid 30s isn't bad.
 
Every successful team ever has a mix of ages. You can't have all kids.

I've no idea if Henderson (probably not) or Walker (maybe) will start for England but in a huge squad, having 2 players in their mid 30s isn't bad.
Perhaps I was a bit harsh on reflection - Walker, Henderson and Burn are the ones that triggered me. As leaders off the field, perhaps they aren't a bad inclusion after all. Although, no not Dan Burn. Why is he there?
 
Perhaps I was a bit harsh on reflection - Walker, Henderson and Burn are the ones that triggered me. As leaders off the field, perhaps they aren't a bad inclusion after all. Although, no not Dan Burn. Why is he there?
Dan-envy isn't cool.
 
Perhaps I was a bit harsh on reflection - Walker, Henderson and Burn are the ones that triggered me. As leaders off the field, perhaps they aren't a bad inclusion after all. Although, no not Dan Burn. Why is he there?
Don't they have atrocious LB situation? Seems less questionable to me then the other two, tbh.
 
Does Burn play LB?? I thought he was a pure CB.
 
I think Branthwaite, Gibbs-White, Wharton and Delap can all feel hard done by.
 
The more I look at it, I think given the injuries, the squad probably highlights the lack of depth in some positions (DM and LB in particular). I think it's really unfortunate that Hall is out for the season, this could have been a great opportunity to cement that LB spot as his. Not to say it's a good squad but a little more understandable.
 
I think it’s a really poor squad - not sure what Tuchel is thinking.

The task is winning the World Cup- people like Walker & Henderson are already over the hill. I also don’t think you can trust Reece James in a tournament squad.

Branthwaite surely had to be in? Quansah hasn’t even been playing.
With no LB I’d have put Mitchell in.

Gibbs White & Wharton surely had to be in the midfield selections? Getting Wharton settled in an England shirt should be the priority in this qualifying period - he’s by far the best partner for Rice imo.

Solanke & Rashford ahead of Watkins & Delap is pretty unfair to.

The squad definitely hasn’t been chosen on merit.
 
The absolute lack of technical ability in our squad is pretty staggering.
 
I think the problem a lot of the younger players might have and the long term future of England might have is that Tuchel appears to be there on a World Cup job. Given that's next year he probably has no desire to try and bed in some other players.
 
I think the problem a lot of the younger players might have and the long term future of England might have is that Tuchel appears to be there on a World Cup job. Given that's next year he probably has no desire to try and bed in some other players.

If England line up with Walker and Henderson in the starting 11 at the world cup they won't need to worry about winning it.
 
I think it’s a really poor squad - not sure what Tuchel is thinking.

The task is winning the World Cup- people like Walker & Henderson are already over the hill. I also don’t think you can trust Reece James in a tournament squad.

Branthwaite surely had to be in? Quansah hasn’t even been playing.
With no LB I’d have put Mitchell in.

Gibbs White & Wharton surely had to be in the midfield selections? Getting Wharton settled in an England shirt should be the priority in this qualifying period - he’s by far the best partner for Rice imo.

Solanke & Rashford ahead of Watkins & Delap is pretty unfair to.

The squad definitely hasn’t been chosen on merit.
Echo this, absolutely shocking stuff from Tuchel.

Quansah, Walker, Henderson, Solanke, Rashford, Burn have absolutely no business in that squad. Quansah ahead of someone like Branthwaite is absolutely mental. Agree with you on Mitchell in particular, we are short in that position, so pick someone who can play their solidly. Southgate did the same dumb shit with Trippier at the euros and taking an unfit Shaw.

Branthwaite, Wharton and MGW not being in the squad is a mindfeck and I do wonder if this guy even watches these players week in week out.

For those wondering who should have been included, i'd say the below can be pretty unhappy not to be..

Wharton
Mitchell
Gibbs White
Gallagher
Branthwaite
Hudson Odoi

EDIT - Sounds like Palace said to not call up Wharton....
 
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I think the problem a lot of the younger players might have and the long term future of England might have is that Tuchel appears to be there on a World Cup job. Given that's next year he probably has no desire to try and bed in some other players.
Yeah, I think that was always likely to be the case with a short-term contract.

That said, Quansah is young but still has no reason to be included ahead of Branthwaite. Pointless having 4 goalkeepers as well so Gibbs-White or Wharton could have been involved without having to leave out someone else.
 
Yeah, I think that was always likely to be the case with a short-term contract.

That said, Quansah is young but still has no reason to be included ahead of Branthwaite. Pointless having 4 goalkeepers as well so Gibbs-White or Wharton could have been involved without having to leave out someone else.
The only thing I can think of regarding Quansah is that he was called up before over Branthwaite so it is continuity. Not that I agree.

I dont think Branthwaite has been at his best this season. He started slow due to the injuries and has been a bit up and down but also had some monstrous performances that indicate his talent and potential. Compare that to Quansah who has been very average compared to last season.