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17-old Scottish midfielder arrives on a free transfer from Rangers.



She made her debut for Rangers’ first team when she was only 15 years old. Two weeks later Watson scored her first senior goal. Champions League debut as a 16-year old. Later that autumn she came on as a sub and scored against Benfica three minutes before full-time whistle to take the tie to extra time.

Watson played in both the League Cup and the Scottish Cup finals last season. She was named the PFA Scotland Women’s Young Player of the Year for the 2022/23 season.

She made her senior international debut in April and has scored three goals in her four caps thus far.

Welcome Emma!

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“I’m absolutely delighted to sign for Manchester United. It’s a huge club with a lot of history and I cannot wait to get started.

“I’m really excited to learn and to play alongside some great players.

“I’ll give everything to this team and I’m looking forward to pulling on the red jersey.”

Marc Skinner:
“Emma is an extremely exciting young talent who will add energy and enthusiasm to our squad.

“Emma plays with a maturity beyond her years and arrives in Manchester with international and Champions League experience.

“We look forward to watching Emma continue her development within our team, over the coming seasons.”

Polly Bancroft:
“Emma is a player that we have been monitoring for some time and we are delighted to secure her signature.

“Emma already has an impressive wealth of experience for a player so young, and we are excited to see her continue to develop within our squad.”

Everyone at the football club would like to welcome Emma to Manchester United and wish her the very best of luck in red."
 

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Saw the title and thought Christ that’s bad timing with the whole Greenwood thing considering her feminist credentials
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I thought is was something along the lines of Julia Roberts having photos. Was expecting photos of Hermione with ten Hag :lol:
 

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Based on the limited footage I’ve seen and the comments by both her new teammates and the manager, she’s performed well and apparently made a very good impression.

Almost scored against Everton but Ramsey saved her effort from the edge of the box.

Will be interesting to see whether she forces the coaching staff to keep her in the squad. Depending on future signings of course, I’d still say it’s more likely she will go on loan. But hopefully to a WSL club, she looks ready to play at that level.
 
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That's a massive shame for her and us, she looked really bright in that Liverpool match. I'm sure Mannion will be good to have around her given her experience recovering and general personality.

Obviously can't really be sure it wouldn't have happened anyway but these Nations League matches are just very annoying.
 

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God darn it, thats fecking terrible! So thats 6 to 12 months out or even more in worst case scenario? Should be back for the 2024-2025 season? :-(
 

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Really bad news, especially for one so young. There has been some interesting research done into the prevalence of ACL injuries in the women's game, and not before time.
 

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17 years old and that type injury, yikes, thats so tough!

 
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Best of luck to her. Not fun. Re-did my replaced ACL last week. But she's young, she'll come through.
 

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Really bad news, especially for one so young. There has been some interesting research done into the prevalence of ACL injuries in the women's game, and not before time.
The numbers are shocking. They are so much more common in the women’s game. It’s hard to believe, really.
 

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Sadly the club has to plan a future without her now, she is unproven and now with a major long time injury concern. We need to replace her and then if she can get back to shape and make it add it as a bonus! But we cant count on her making it. that would be foolish!
 

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More and more ACL injuries in the women's game
 

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‘EMMA’S MENTALITY IS BEYOND HER YEARS’

Speaking about Watson, Skinner said: "Emma is one of those unique characters. She is mature beyond her years.

"She is a 17-year-old but she is like 27 in her mentality and her professionalism. It’s devastating news for her and for us.

"She was doing so well in pre-season and would have featured during the season in a growing role.

"The outpouring of love from players has been amazing. People like Aoife Mannion who has been through it herself has been helping her.

"She has been walking her up and down on her crutches. She has been super supportive.

"She will be looked after by all of us.

"What I can promise is that we will look after her and she will come back even stronger."
 

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My granddaughter suffered an ACL injury in August 2022, and has been waiting for a date for her operation, which is now in February 2024. She has become part of a study into this type of injury, not sure if it's run by the NHS or not, so there are some steps being taken to try to discover why female footballers seem to have a higher percentage of ACL injuries.
 

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My granddaughter suffered an ACL injury in August 2022, and has been waiting for a date for her operation, which is now in February 2024. She has become part of a study into this type of injury, not sure if it's run by the NHS or not, so there are some steps being taken to try to discover why female footballers seem to have a higher percentage of ACL injuries.
Sounds like they already know why it's more prevalent at least:

Anatomically, men and women are not created equal. The female pelvis is wider, which changes the mechanics of how the thigh bone, tibia, and femur function, says Dr. Gardner. This puts more stress on the soft tissues that support your joints, she explains.

This higher stress can lead to either a chronic (overuse) or acute (sudden) injury. According to research, an ACL tear is one acute injury that female athletes are two to eight times more likely to experience than males. The ACL, a ligament in the knee that connects the femur to the tibia, is extraordinarily strong, yet has little elasticity, Dr. Gardner says. “It absorbs a huge amount of stress until it can’t hold on anymore, and then it tears,” she explains, adding that tears are especially common in sports that require pivoting and jumping, including soccer, basketball, lacrosse, and skiing.

Additionally, women have less muscle mass around their knees than men, says Samantha Smith, MD, a Yale Medicine primary care sports medicine specialist. “That, too, can lead to instability and a higher chance of tearing a ligament if it is overstretched,” she adds.

This is where a combination of additional stress and hormones might come into play. Compared to men, women have less testosterone, a key hormone for increasing muscle density. Women also have much more estrogen than men. Essential to bone growth, this hormone fluctuates during a woman’s menstrual cycle. Estrogen may also cause greater laxity (looseness) in tendons and ligaments, which can make women more prone to injury.

“A balance between your muscles and your ligaments controls where and how your bones move,” Dr. Gardner explains. “Any force absorption or stability your muscles can’t provide gets passed along to the ligaments. If those are too loose or weak, that can hurt you.”

https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/sports-injuries-gender#:~:text=According to research, an ACL,yet has little elasticity, Dr.
 

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Sounds like they already know why it's more prevalent at least:

Anatomically, men and women are not created equal. The female pelvis is wider, which changes the mechanics of how the thigh bone, tibia, and femur function, says Dr. Gardner. This puts more stress on the soft tissues that support your joints, she explains.

This higher stress can lead to either a chronic (overuse) or acute (sudden) injury. According to research, an ACL tear is one acute injury that female athletes are two to eight times more likely to experience than males. The ACL, a ligament in the knee that connects the femur to the tibia, is extraordinarily strong, yet has little elasticity, Dr. Gardner says. “It absorbs a huge amount of stress until it can’t hold on anymore, and then it tears,” she explains, adding that tears are especially common in sports that require pivoting and jumping, including soccer, basketball, lacrosse, and skiing.

Additionally, women have less muscle mass around their knees than men, says Samantha Smith, MD, a Yale Medicine primary care sports medicine specialist. “That, too, can lead to instability and a higher chance of tearing a ligament if it is overstretched,” she adds.

This is where a combination of additional stress and hormones might come into play. Compared to men, women have less testosterone, a key hormone for increasing muscle density. Women also have much more estrogen than men. Essential to bone growth, this hormone fluctuates during a woman’s menstrual cycle. Estrogen may also cause greater laxity (looseness) in tendons and ligaments, which can make women more prone to injury.

“A balance between your muscles and your ligaments controls where and how your bones move,” Dr. Gardner explains. “Any force absorption or stability your muscles can’t provide gets passed along to the ligaments. If those are too loose or weak, that can hurt you.”

https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/sports-injuries-gender#:~:text=According to research, an ACL,yet has little elasticity, Dr.
Could it also be that women sometimes wear high heels. I had trouble with my knees a while back and the doctor brought that up as they couldn't find anything on the xray. My knee was giving way under me. It was very odd.
 

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Just for comparison, ACL injuries really are exceptionally high in the women's game:


Some of the differences are around facilities like pitches and access to trained physios and fitness/conditioning coaches. Some of it will be related to youth team training.

Then there's the biology of the situation - an area with lots of questions and not yet many solid answers. For example, we know certain injuries are more likely at certain times in the menstrual cycle, we don't yet know why that is or what to do about it.

An interesting thread on some of the things that are known and some of the things that are under investigation:
 

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Sounds like they already know why it's more prevalent at least:

Anatomically, men and women are not created equal. The female pelvis is wider, which changes the mechanics of how the thigh bone, tibia, and femur function, says Dr. Gardner. This puts more stress on the soft tissues that support your joints, she explains.

This higher stress can lead to either a chronic (overuse) or acute (sudden) injury. According to research, an ACL tear is one acute injury that female athletes are two to eight times more likely to experience than males. The ACL, a ligament in the knee that connects the femur to the tibia, is extraordinarily strong, yet has little elasticity, Dr. Gardner says. “It absorbs a huge amount of stress until it can’t hold on anymore, and then it tears,” she explains, adding that tears are especially common in sports that require pivoting and jumping, including soccer, basketball, lacrosse, and skiing.

Additionally, women have less muscle mass around their knees than men, says Samantha Smith, MD, a Yale Medicine primary care sports medicine specialist. “That, too, can lead to instability and a higher chance of tearing a ligament if it is overstretched,” she adds.

This is where a combination of additional stress and hormones might come into play. Compared to men, women have less testosterone, a key hormone for increasing muscle density. Women also have much more estrogen than men. Essential to bone growth, this hormone fluctuates during a woman’s menstrual cycle. Estrogen may also cause greater laxity (looseness) in tendons and ligaments, which can make women more prone to injury.

“A balance between your muscles and your ligaments controls where and how your bones move,” Dr. Gardner explains. “Any force absorption or stability your muscles can’t provide gets passed along to the ligaments. If those are too loose or weak, that can hurt you.”

https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/sports-injuries-gender#:~:text=According to research, an ACL,yet has little elasticity, Dr.
Interesting. Thanks for posting this, I'll pass it on to her, although having been to see several specialists, she may be aware of some of this info.
On another point, girls up to a certain age are allowed to play in mixed teams, so I would imagine that problems with joints and acl's in particular, don't become apparent until girls start to become young women, and estrogen becomes more established in the body.
This is really interesting, and I hope that something beneficial to all girls can come out of this, whatever the outcome.
 

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Just for comparison, ACL injuries really are exceptionally high in the women's game:


Some of the differences are around facilities like pitches and access to trained physios and fitness/conditioning coaches. Some of it will be related to youth team training.

Then there's the biology of the situation - an area with lots of questions and not yet many solid answers. For example, we know certain injuries are more likely at certain times in the menstrual cycle, we don't yet know why that is or what to do about it.

An interesting thread on some of the things that are known and some of the things that are under investigation:
Really hope changes can be made to get the numbers down.

Female athletes already have far less financial opportunities vs male. Having a career cut short / hampered by serious injuries is a massive downer to add to that if we expect / hope to see the high standards maintained and improved.
 

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Could it also be that women sometimes wear high heels. I had trouble with my knees a while back and the doctor brought that up as they couldn't find anything on the xray. My knee was giving way under me. It was very odd.
My brother-in-law has had key hole surgery on his knees, removing debris and what not. The surgeon after the surgery, actually said he usually sees the type of issues he had in women who wore high heels. So he got a fair bit of stick. :lol:
 

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My brother-in-law has had key hole surgery on his knees, removing debris and what not. The surgeon after the surgery, actually said he usually sees the type of issues he had in women who wore high heels. So he got a fair bit of stick. :lol:
Oh dear. I can imagine. :lol: