I’m not entirely caught up on the details of the reported cases in Rotherham and similar situations. Is the concern that these incidents are a) being exaggerated, b) that they’re being highlighted in an unfair or disproportionate way, or c) is it about Elon Musk’s involvement in the conversation? Just trying to understand the perspective better!
Elon Musk | Doer of things on X and sad little man
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Before anyone tries it: this is not his autism showing. This is Elon displaying his characteristically unthinking, superficial approach that he employs for anything political/ philosophical/cultural. Because at the end of the day for all Musk's support for racism, thin-skinned petulance and cringe loser behaviour, the one defining quality at his core, that underpins everthing else is that he's a lazy slob.
He doesn't even attempt a cursory understanding of the UK's far right political landscape, it's just the same lazy spamming of unthinking drivel.
He doesn't even attempt a cursory understanding of the UK's far right political landscape, it's just the same lazy spamming of unthinking drivel.
this feels like a weak attempt at trolling for some reason
anyway, the concern is elon musk meddling in our democracy
Or d) that it has nothing to do with what Musk is talking about/ tweeting about.
Hey, no worries—definitely not trolling, just genuinely curious! I can see why people might be concerned about Elon Musk’s influence, especially with how much reach he has these days.
I just had a look on X and had to unmute @elonmusk (otherwise he spams my timeline too much), and I noticed he’s pinned a bunch of screenshots talking about the severity and depravity of mass gang r@pes of little girls in Britain. As a middle-aged New Yorker with a full life, career, and family to take care of, it sounds absolutely horrifying, but I don’t have all the time in the world to parse through the noise and figure out what’s true or not.
So, I guess my question is: Did these incidents actually happen, and were they covered up? Are these just used to unfairly targeting a specific religion or community in the discussion? Or is the issue more about Musk being the wrong messenger for this kind of sensitive topic? Just trying to get a clearer picture without jumping to conclusions
All of it hapenned, and much worse besides. There are two issues, he is firstly taking the lead from an out an out racist who uses the cases to further his agenda. Indeed, when 'tommy robinson' went to 'help' in the Telford case, his team, all convicted criminals, were found to be sleeping with the victims and were forced to leave.
There have already been 2 enquiries, they came to the same conclusion, the police just don;t care if poor kids get raped. Not a race issue, a very real class one. They also noted that 88% of rapes in this country are carried out by white men. Tommy has never, ever gone after a white rape gang. Indeed, he founded the EDL (English Defence League), and over 100 of the people in it have been convicted of pedophilia or sexual assault.
In short, elom is a clown, ranting about misinformation to make political moves, he dopesn;t give a single shit about his own kids, why does anyone at all think he is bothered about what happens to anyone elses?
apologies then
there's a lot to unpack but there's simply no need to overthink this because elon is just shit-posting
Again, you don't understand the word fact. You are mouthing off as if your ideas and opinions are superior, but you clearly don't understand what he did to get to this point and how the lack of any real pushback made it easier. The only way this bury your head in the sand technique would make any sense is if he started a new social media outlet. Even then, feck staying silent and pretending you won't be affected by all this.
Bringing up Tiktok is a clear sign of how little you understand this and what they are doing...similar to Musk himself and how little he understood what he was trying to buy originally (and why he then tried to back out). So I'm going to be done with you and your arrogance.
Farage isn't sufficiently white supremacists to attempt a coup I'd say.
I cancelled my Twitter account and I refuse to view Tweets. Miniscule and irrelevant in of itself but if everyone did the same ......
Musk is pure evil - just to be clear. At least as harmful and dangerous as Trump.
Musk is pure evil - just to be clear. At least as harmful and dangerous as Trump.
How close are we to Bluesky integration on here?
There isn't a good solution yet sadly. There is an add-on available, but the developer has made it dependent on a version of php we don't currently use. Implementation is therefore so no trivial, and with risks of adverse effects elsewhere, that we can't justify using it yet. But it is at the top of the list when a better addon is released.
Fair, thanks for the update.
I know Niall and Raoul (in particular) are keeping an eye on this so we can add it as an option as soon as it is practical.
At this point arguing whether to stay or leave twitter feels trivial. I'd argue that it's already reached its final form with Trump elected, and peak far-right radicalisation. It's already groaning under its own weight. Ads are leaving, users are dropping, platform enshitification is well underway.
A mass exodus 12 months ago would have likely harmed Elon and served a wider social good but now, in the absence of any half decent alternatives it might be a case of cutting off your nose to spite your face.
If you think that the guardian and cnn are the vanguard then sure get off twitter, but sadly twitter is still the only place where serious anti establishment and left wing voices can find any purchase.
For example pushback against the Luigi terrorism framing from mainstream media could have only crystallised on twitter.
A mass exodus 12 months ago would have likely harmed Elon and served a wider social good but now, in the absence of any half decent alternatives it might be a case of cutting off your nose to spite your face.
If you think that the guardian and cnn are the vanguard then sure get off twitter, but sadly twitter is still the only place where serious anti establishment and left wing voices can find any purchase.
For example pushback against the Luigi terrorism framing from mainstream media could have only crystallised on twitter.
Sounds like a poor justification for keeping giving Musk money and power - albeit a miniscule amount of either/both personally.
You could make the same arguments for giving Murdoch money and power by watching or reading anything his evil empire puts out.
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Good points made. There are plenty of left, right, establishment, and anti-establishment voices on Twitter and it’s up to everyone to decide whether or not they want to be on the platform. Irrespective of one’s individual choice, the platform will continue to be the de facto global public square for large swath of the planet, a vast majority of which is oblivious to Musk’s personal idiocy.
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt here and assume you are trying to post in good faith.
I've worked adjacent to social media marketing for years now. It is a fact that you and others continuing to post on Twitter, link to Twitter, and click on other links to Twitter unequivocally and objectively 100% helps Musk maintain the enhancement to his voice and his prominence in social media. If you don't understand this, you simply don't know how organic social works.
Your whole argument seems to be it's imperative to "push back" against Musk on Twitter, the platform that Musk owns. That argument would only be sound if Twitter wasn't actually owned by Musk. Musk has shown he has no problem suspending Twitter accounts of people he wants to silence and tweak its algorithm to push right wing content.
The whole idea about "no real pushback" doesnt make sense. Tons of people "pushed back" on Twitter from the moment that Musk attacked that guy over the cave incident. It didn't make much difference then Musk just bought the platform. Musk has already rigged Twitter so anyone "pushing back" against on Twitter will never get a fraction of the audience penetrative that he and his followers will get.
Yeah I'm all aboard the we should ban Twitter on here brigade, even if it makes the forum experience slightly worse for a while it'll still be nowhere near as bad as reading anything in the football forum.
Its going to take a while, but i am confident that in time, twitter is going to be overaken by a similar platform and twitter is going to descend into a irrelevant far-right echo chamber.
Man if this is how a polymath acts, Leonardo da Vinci must have been an absolute bastard. Disappointing as I always liked the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles but I guess you shouldn't commit to liking someone before seeing what they post on social media.
It's old news, it has resurfaced recently because some RW's were asking for further reviews even though a review has already been done.
I think Musk's main motivation around amplifying this issue is because he was getting into fights with his main supporter base regarding his support for H1B visas, which resulted in high profile bust ups with popular far right accounts such as Lauren Loomer, it got so bad he ended up censoring and demonetizing these big accounts over it. He has successfully changed the topic of discussion to grooming gangs which has subdued the 'civil war' with the RW and racists as a result.
And there is also the ideological side of things which is already well documented.
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Starmer hits back at Musk and Tories over rape gangs claim, attacking those 'spreading lies' and 'amplifying far right'
Beth Rigby, the Sky News political editor, also asks about Elon Musk, and about his attacks on Jess Phillips, the safeguarding minister.https://www.theguardian.com/politic...08b8ff95e05feb#block-677baf8f8f08b8ff95e05feb
Starmer says that he thinks most people are more interested in the NHS“than what’s happening on Twitter”.
But he says he does want to address in detail this issue.
Let me start with this, child sexual exploitation is utterly sickening, utterly sickening.
Having defended his record as DPP, Starmer goes on to attack those who have criticised him and Jess Phillips. He does not name Elon Musk, but he is clearly referring to him. Towards the end he also explicitly attacks the Tories, who have joined Musk in calling for an inquiry into the Oldham rape gangs. He says.
And so it begins. Musk gets the oxygen he craves and the opportunity to make hay.
Raheem Kassam is a nasty individual so even Musk is too much for him. 
A perfect Murdoch replacement on the global scene of vileness. A powerful politician like Murdoch who uses this power to create division and profit from it.
Cant see that happening sadly.
Richest man in the world who runs the US government will always grab headlines
A Marlo Stanfield to Murdoch's Avon Barksdale
It’s not something in our control. The developers have to make some changes before Bluesky will embeds can work. Even if they did, there’s still not sufficient activity at Bluesky to where it would generate even one fifth the tweet traffic that Twitter does.
We're the biggest forum for one of the most supported football clubs on the planet. I feel if we paved the way for adopting bluesky along with others, then you'd think it would be a matter of time before the usual media outlets would follow suit in directing their SM traffic there too. The Guardian have already cut ties with Twitter and have gone all in on BlueSky for one.
As for dev changes needed, I volunteer to do the work pro bono
Musk is quite literally one of the worst human beings walking on the face of earth right now.
Why is he suddenly getting involved in shit that has no bearing on his life whatsoever? Stick to rockets you cnut.
i know others have been saying it for a while, but i spent 10 mins on X this morning, and it is now just a cesspint of right wing / alt-right / far right nutjobs just masturbating along to whatever ridiculous talking point Musk comes up with, with lots of 'please, please look at me / retweet me' energy from these wackos. People who wouldnt normally get the oxygen of publicity beyond their very little circles, are now pronouncing and preening on matters knowing they have the attention of the future leaders of the free world. madness i tells you.
lost some support from his followers after the HB1 comments, so he's throwing the "Free Tommy" stuff out to win them back
What will Musk’s official status be in the new Trump administration? Will he qualify as some sort of government official in other words?
I’m curious as to whether this consultancy will be designated as some kind of quasi-government position.
He'll be a consultant.
Because in effect then you have an incoming US ‘government official’ calling for the overthrow of the current British government.
He'll be a consultant.
He already is something beginning with C
It really is that easy