Elon Musk | Doer of things on X and sad little man

devilish said:
I follow what's Musk is doing and I am angry as well btw but I am far from an expert on him.

If he's executing a complex 3d like chess masterplan then he's

a- he is pretending to be autistic
b- he's a type of autistic I never met with, read about or researched upon. We can be good on many things but to come out with intricate long term masterplans on how to manipulate so many people is not one of them. Far from it
c- the person he trusts blindly (most of us has someone like that) is manipulating him big time.

Irrespective of which one it may be then he's terrifying.
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Or he’s autistic and fascistic - they’re not mutually exclusive.
 
4bars said:
@devilish all yhat you are saying about being autistic might well be true. But i dont understand the not being a fascist. Are they mutually exclusive?. No one is born a fascist. Could it be that being and autistic kid from an apartheid emerald mine owner family background which could be a good starting point to cultivate fascim is what drove him where he is now and the lack of guardrails that you mention and the diffculty to process empathy brought him to the path of fascism?

And i repeat. Is being on the spectrum and being a fascist mutually exclusive or furthermore, being autistic without guardrails could well make you become a fascist easier if you are comking from a certain background?
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I explained it before. Let me explain it again. I am a huge game of thrones fan. During that fixation phase I knew everything about it, kings, lords, ladies, dragons, conspiracy theories , wars, castles, squires. I was so good that I was no 1 poster in Quora on the subject. I'd spend days and nights arguing on it.

Years before I was in a very religious phase to the point that I had priests going silent after discussing things with me, prayer meeting leaders wanting me to join their inner community and Mormon knocking my door leaving nearly crying

An autistic that is a fascist will go head over heels in it. That means knowing the mein kampft and quoting it, praising Hitler or IL duce publically etc. There's no half measures with autism. You either go hard or you go home which is exactly I'm struggling to do here (go home) but I still go hard in

What I fear is

- a narcissist and a fascist whose lying about having autism. We are designed to be blunt in a Robert baratheon's Warhammer sort of way. Someone might lie about having it so he can say what the feck he wants. Though I find it hard to see how that work. Believe me Autism does not help you in winning credibility as many in this forum can testify on my behalf (read this thread)

- the person he trust blindly and would go to hell for (an autistic tend to have 1 of those) is fascist. That's even more dangerous then the autistic being one.

- he's got a fixation (or aim) which fascism would help him achieve. For example a fragmented europe ruled by nationalists might be too weak to push for policies to tax super corps. Alternatively trump might have persuaded him that if he does this for him he will give in to what he wants

All three terrifies the crap out of me and makes him more terrifying then the average modern fascists like farage or meloni

For the record I do believe that autistics can be fascist. Actually I suspect one of the biggest fascists in history was autistic. I won't go there in this forum as they would rip me a new one on that
 
Frosty said:
His dad did say that apartheid taught young Elon not to discriminate.

How did he leave that path....
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His mum did also recently say Elon has now reconnected with his roots and only pretended to be a liberal in order to 'infiltrate' elite spheres. So make of that what you will.
 
Kaos said:
His mum did also recently say Elon has now reconnected with his roots and only pretended to be a liberal in order to 'infiltrate' elite spheres. So make of that what you will.
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In that case then he might be pretending to be an autistic as well
 
Jericholyte2 said:
Because it’s the only one that the forum has functionality to link to.
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Well if Musk is indeed a fascist then surely providing functionality for other platforms is the obvious thing to do, together with the removal of functionality for Twitter/X.
 
We quite rightly go after Russian troll farms so I'm unsure why not much has been made of Elon doing the exact same thing. He's even directly targeting UK politicians ffs.
 
After leaving Twitter years ago, I was suckered back in to follow football and am logging out and never going back after my feed being bombarded by his screeching over Tommy Robinson and the grooming scandal.
 
Mr Pigeon said:
We quite rightly go after Russian troll farms so I'm unsure why not much has been made of Elon doing the exact same thing. He's even directly targeting UK politicians ffs.
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It’s called politics. He’s currently the shadow vice president of the United States. A country Starmer is desperate to work with for the sake of our economy. He’s not going to go to war with Musk because he knows it will result in an incredibly petty and vindictive response from Trump and the US.
 
Pexbo said:
It’s called politics. He’s currently the shadow vice president of the United States. A country Starmer is desperate to work with for the sake of our economy. He’s not going to go to war with Musk because he knows it will result in an incredibly petty and vindictive response from Trump and the US.
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I mean would it though? They're not going to be doing a trade deal any time soon and realistically they're about to have their own economic problems so will that really be their top priority?
 
Zen86 said:
Using his platform and sharing his content isn’t opposing anything, it’s amplifying his message. Think he’s a danger to the world? Don’t use Twitter.
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Some otherwise intelligent people seem to not understand this fact at all. Linking and clicking on twitter posts isn't opposing anything, it just feeds the algorithms that strengthen twitter. If they want to call out Musk don't do it on his own platform that he controls and can just suspend or delete things he doesn't like (which he already does).

FortunaUtd said:
When are we going to stop using Twitter, though? About 30% of this forums content is posted tweets, feels like it. Humanity , and Red Café, needs to move to an alternative medium ASAP.
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I think people simply don't understand that their continued hours spent on twitter, links to twitter posts on other platforms like Redcafe and then clicking on those links to twitter all help Musk maintain a huge enhancement to his views and his voice. If all the liberals, progressives, centrists, etc that don't like Musk simply stopped using, linking and clicking on twitter posts, twitter would become as irrelevant as Gab or Truth Social. It doesn't matter if they post themselves or pay for a blue check mark, if they are linking to twitter posts on other media and clicking on twitter posts others embed they (as a collective) are massively helping Musk not hurting him in any way. It's really time to remove the twitter embed feature on Redcafe and really no one that oppose Musk's views should be linking or clicking twitter posts.
 
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devilish said:
I am on the Spectrum and can therefore understand Musk in ways you might struggle with. What Musk says is probably what he thinks and what he is aiming for. As many on the CAF knows about the likes of me is that we're not very good at beating around the bush and we'll say what we feel, the way it feels for us. Autistics have something called hyper focus. To put it in simple terms we take the 'dog with a bone' term on a whole new level. That means that if his aim is to make more money and to do so he'll have to trample over alot of people to do it then he'll do it. That's not because he's cruel but probably because he'll probably not notice the damage he's causing. I mean the guy works duzzilion hours a day. That's not good for his body and his mental health (especially for an autistic who'll have to contend to waves of sensory overload). Yet he do it just the same because that's his bone. If he can't take good care of himself then he'll certainly won't have the awareness to take care of strangers he never met.

What frightens the crap out of me about Musk is that he probably lacks the constant struggles most autistics have on a day to day basis. I mean look at him. He's the richest man in the world and he was the bf of Amber Heard. Thus his good and evil POV which most autistics have goes unchallenged and he lacks the regular kick in the balls the average autistic takes that keeps him in doubt that 'maybe just maybe' he's wrong. That will act as amplifier to double and triple down on what he is aiming for.

What I would do as a government is to engage with Musk. They could partner with him on some sort of joint space program or ask him to partner with them on how to best deal with the green deal. Give him a juicy steak he can shift his interest on.
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The bolded is just complete nonsense. The guy spends all day promoting right-wing memes on twitter. He works less hours in a week than a part-time dog walker in Knik, Alaska.
 
You have to wonder what nefarious thing was it Farage refused to do.

You also have to have concern when Farage is the moral crusader in an interaction.
 
That’s pretty funny since I just saw a headline about half an hour ago along the lines of “Farage defends Elon Musk in BBC interview”.
 
Musk is an egomaniacal cnut. I look forward to the inevitable divorce with Donald. That’ll be fun.
 
Maybe Tommy Robinson can lead Reform from his prison cell. That’ll be fun. Or maybe Musk can organise an AI chatbot to run the party.
 
FrankDrebin said:
To think this cnut wants Reform to potentially have someone worse than Farage leading them.
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I think he's just hurt that Farage distanced himself from him and is kicking his toys out the pram. I think he probably doesn't really understand how popular/well known a figure Farage is in the UK political landscape and thinks any puppet can take over from him and do just as well.

I think it's just all ego and ultimately if he boots Farage out, I think it will probably be bad for Reform.
 
Fargae doesn't like Tommy. Because of all the baggage he comes with. Musk does like Tommy.

Step fwd Robert Jenrick.
 
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