Elon Musk | Doer of things on X and sad little man

Can't believe I'm the one being warned when other posters dish out ad hominem insults.

Think I will steer well clear from this thread which seems more like an echo chamber than a room for debate.

You very much come across as a WUM when you say that Elon’s tweet wasn’t an endorsement. It’s clear what his intention was. What would Musk need to retweet, or do for you to be critical of him?
 
Nani Nana: 1+1=17

Person 1: Don’t be silly it clearly equals 2

Nani Nana: No it doesn’t.

Person 2: if you have one thing and someone gave you one more you now have two.

Nani Nana: No I wouldn’t.

Person 3: You would, try doing it with real things.

Nani Nana: I have and I now have 17 things.

Person 4: Here is a book on basic arithmetic, have a look at page one.

Nani Nana: That book is from a company that Soros is invested in.

Person 5: It’s literally the fundaments of mathematics, I’m not sure what you are even arguing about?

Nani Nana: Yet nobody has been able to prove that yet.

Person 6: You are an idiot.

Nani Nani: Wow! If you are resorting to insults you know you have lost the argument.
 
Nani Nana: 1+1=17

Person 1: Don’t be silly it clearly equals 2

Nani Nana: No it doesn’t.

Person 2: if you have one thing and someone gave you one more you now have two.

Nani Nana: No I wouldn’t.

Person 3: You would, try doing it with real things.

Nani Nana: I have and I now have 17 things.

Person 4: Here is a book on basic arithmetic, have a look at page one.

Nani Nana: That book is from a company that Soros is invested in.

Person 5: It’s literally the fundaments of mathematics, I’m not sure what you are even arguing about?

Nani Nana: Yet nobody has been able to prove that yet.

Person 6: You are an idiot.

Nani Nani: Wow! If you are resorting to insults you know you have lost the argument.
I agree wholeheartedly with the entire message of your post.
That’s not an endorsement, however.
 
Libcafe claims yet another victim.

I can't lie, I do enjoy it when people with terrible views are bullied out of threads.
 
Nani Nana: 1+1=17

Person 1: Don’t be silly it clearly equals 2

Nani Nana: No it doesn’t.

Person 2: if you have one thing and someone gave you one more you now have two.

Nani Nana: No I wouldn’t.

Person 3: You would, try doing it with real things.

Nani Nana: I have and I now have 17 things.

Person 4: Here is a book on basic arithmetic, have a look at page one.

Nani Nana: That book is from a company that Soros is invested in.

Person 5: It’s literally the fundaments of mathematics, I’m not sure what you are even arguing about?

Nani Nana: Yet nobody has been able to prove that yet.

Person 6: You are an idiot.

Nani Nani: Wow! If you are resorting to insults you know you have lost the argument.
Everything is just a version of the so much for the tolerant left image.
 
Can't believe I'm the one being warned when other posters dish out ad hominem insults.

Think I will steer well clear from this thread which seems more like an echo chamber than a room for debate.

What are you debating exactly? You come in here and make stupid statements which posters prove to be false then they pose questions to you about Musk and you don't respond.
 
Does he have an obsession with the UK, or is just our media hyping things up?

I don't remember him saying anything about us until Sunak invited him across here to suck him off in that embarrassing interview thing, but I wasn't paying much attention to his shitposting.

Is it just a recent thing since we've elected a centrist government?

Starmer didn't invite him for a Technology summit but before that he was accusing the Government of jailing people for free speech. He now sees an opportunity to influence elections in this country hence pushing the petition but the thick cnut doesn't realise how elections work over here.
 
Yeah seems like a massive power trip for him to start sticking his snout into this countries politics now that he's helped get Trump back in. Leaning right into his Bond villain persona.
 
Yeah seems like a massive power trip for him to start sticking his snout into this countries politics now that he's helped get Trump back in. Leaning right into his Bond villain persona.

He's noticeably been doing it for months now. It's not just the UK either, although he's definitely more focused on the UK than other countries.
 
He's noticeably been doing it for months now. It's not just the UK either, although he's definitely more focused on the UK than other countries.
Part of their playbook is to fully isolate the UK from Europe and to bring it into fully integration with the US economically and military so it fits the bill. It would clearly also weaken the European nations even after Brexit.
 
Can't believe I'm the one being warned when other posters dish out ad hominem insults.

Think I will steer well clear from this thread which seems more like an echo chamber than a room for debate.
Maybe stop defending a racist cnut rather than cry
 
Tbf I'm not defending Musk but making cars bigger for no reason is very much an America thing and would happen regardless of whether Musk existed.

It is more to do with the country being full of greedy/insecure people who have been brainwashed into thinking having a bigger car makes them a superior person. Something we've annoyingly adopted over here as well.

Musk is just an inevitable byproduct of American capitalism to me. If it wasn't him itd be someone else equally as selfish and dangerous (stupid).
With cybertruck he went above and beyond the usual insane industry trends though.
With the rest of the point I agree though, "for example" was there for a reason and it was in the context of constantly reappearing argument of "he must be inherently driven by care for enviroment/humanity because he pushed EVs forward in some ways", despite the fact that he makes harmful decisions regurarly too for trivial reasons that just get ignored in that moral analysis. Analysing him as a product of the markets he's in, instead of through some quickly assembled moral framework is going to get better results in vast majority of cases.
 
Libcafe claims yet another victim.

I can't lie, I do enjoy it when people with terrible views are bullied out of threads.

Same mate, absolutely same. I don't care for the "both sides" nonsense when one side is so obviously abhorrent.

I thoroughly enjoy them being piled on, them crying about being piled on and then leaving, whether of their own accord or being banned.
 
I do think Musk cares about humanity. Just in a very abstracted, intellectual uncaring way. But I genuinely believe that his personal "end game" is the betterment of mankind.

It's just that the means to it, and his vision of what that actually means, are probably quite unsavoury, and it's all muddled by his own callousness, unprocessed avarice and personal ambition.

I think he envisions a world run on sustainable energy, where the age of space exploration is renewed and Elon Musk sits on top of the pile and the credits roll states "the future has been brought to you by Elon Musk". And no one looks at the ultra capitalist right wing hellscape he made to get there.
 
I do think Musk cares about humanity. Just in a very abstracted, intellectual uncaring way. But I genuinely believe that his personal "end game" is the betterment of mankind.

It's just that the means to it, and his vision of what that actually means, are probably quite unsavoury, and it's all muddled by his own callousness, unprocessed avarice and personal ambition.

I think he envisions a world run on sustainable energy, where the age of space exploration is renewed and Elon Musk sits on top of the pile and the credits roll states "the future has been brought to you by Elon Musk". And no one looks at the ultra capitalist right wing hellscape he made to get there.
I think his endgame is the betterment of Elon Musk, nothing else, but if the betterment of humanity is a byproduct that's fine too.

That said, he's actively sowing division and discord, amplifying conspiracy think and promoting prejudice, so I find it tough to make even the smallest argument for him as someone working for the betterment of humanity.
 
I do think Musk cares about humanity. Just in a very abstracted, intellectual uncaring way. But I genuinely believe that his personal "end game" is the betterment of mankind.

It's just that the means to it, and his vision of what that actually means, are probably quite unsavoury, and it's all muddled by his own callousness, unprocessed avarice and personal ambition.

I think he envisions a world run on sustainable energy, where the age of space exploration is renewed and Elon Musk sits on top of the pile and the credits roll states "the future has been brought to you by Elon Musk". And no one looks at the ultra capitalist right wing hellscape he made to get there.

Oh come on now, come on

Musk has a god complex and wants to play the saviour, like when he said he’d fix the water crisis and did feckall

Or his interplanetary crusade that is no where near needed or realistic, would cost trillions whilst millions are going hungry on the one we already have
 
Do you not know who Tommy Robinson is? What else could Musk's platforming of him be, if not islamophobia?

Please, at least give Stephen Yaxley-Lennon his proper title rather than his hard man Alias 'Tommy Robinson'.

Also a great opportunity to remind anyone not aware that he's a racist bigot currently incarcerated for subverting the justice system, previously incarcerated for mortgage fraud and it currently banned from entering the USA for non-ironically trying to enter their great country by using somebody else's passport. A real beacon of hope for us all to rally around
 
I do think Musk cares about humanity. Just in a very abstracted, intellectual uncaring way. But I genuinely believe that his personal "end game" is the betterment of mankind.

It's just that the means to it, and his vision of what that actually means, are probably quite unsavoury, and it's all muddled by his own callousness, unprocessed avarice and personal ambition.

I think he envisions a world run on sustainable energy, where the age of space exploration is renewed and Elon Musk sits on top of the pile and the credits roll states "the future has been brought to you by Elon Musk". And no one looks at the ultra capitalist right wing hellscape he made to get there.

I think his endgame is the betterment of Elon Musk, nothing else, but if the betterment of humanity is a byproduct that's fine too.

That said, he's actively sowing division and discord, amplifying conspiracy think and promoting prejudice, so I find it tough to make even the smallest argument for him as someone working for the betterment of humanity.

Oh come on now, come on

Musk has a god complex and wants to play the saviour, like when he said he’d fix the water crisis and did feckall

Or his interplanetary crusade that is no where near needed or realistic, would cost trillions whilst millions are going hungry on the one we already have

I think you're all actually agreeing with each other here.
 
I do think Musk cares about humanity. Just in a very abstracted, intellectual uncaring way. But I genuinely believe that his personal "end game" is the betterment of mankind.

It's just that the means to it, and his vision of what that actually means, are probably quite unsavoury, and it's all muddled by his own callousness, unprocessed avarice and personal ambition.

I think he envisions a world run on sustainable energy, where the age of space exploration is renewed and Elon Musk sits on top of the pile and the credits roll states "the future has been brought to you by Elon Musk". And no one looks at the ultra capitalist right wing hellscape he made to get there.
An open racist, bigot, transphobe who openly supports the far right cares about humanity? How have you deduced that from his actions these past few years?

Musk wants his name up in lights. Lots of them. If that benefits the parts of "humanity" that he likes, great. The things he does are self-serving to an extreme we rarely get to see, given people of such wealth don't tend to act like Bond villains out in the open for the world to see.

The mess he's leaving in his wake is also taking some off the top to prop up the bottom; if X isn't prised from his grasp, he'll continue to be an overwhelmingly destructive force damaging the lives of who knows how many people around the globe for as long as he has left on the planet.
 
Musk’s interest in humanity is ego driven not empathy driven.