Ella Toone | injured - may not be back until after Christmas

Sweet! Was this expected or did it come out of the blue considering she already had a few years left?
 
Great news for the title push ! I really didn't expect it to be rescinded
 
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Pleased to hear it - surprised I admit, given that it was probably a yellow and they often don't overturn those. But overall - post match VAR to the rescue :D
 
It’s a good thing. Don’t want to see the levels of gamesmanship and acting that is so prevalent in the men’s game creeping into the women’s game. Toone shouldn’t have reacted though.
 
Don't think there was ever a chance of her leaving, she's pretty much the Women's team equivalent of Rashford.
 
But ref extraordinaire Dermot Gallagher said it was a red as she shoved her in the face??? I don't understand how such a brilliant unbiased person could have got it so wrong ;)
 
Eric_the_Red99 said:
It was pretty awful play acting from the Spurs player. It’s sad if that sort of thing is starting to infect the women’s game as well now.
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Summanen has now been charged with successfully deceiving the referee and may get a 2 game ban. I sort of thought the whole thing could have been resolved if they'd both been booked to begin with but the way it has turned around from us potentially losing Toone for 3 games to Spurs now losing a player for 2 games is a bit odd.
 
brian017 said:
But ref extraordinaire Dermot Gallagher said it was a red as she shoved her in the face??? I don't understand how such a brilliant unbiased person could have got it so wrong ;)
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Honestly at the time I was 'happy' in that I thought it was the right decision, but they didn't show a definitive camera angle during the game. It looked bad, but at least it's been overturned.
 
RORY65 said:
Summanen has now been charged with successfully deceiving the referee and may get a 2 game ban. I sort of thought the whole thing could have been resolved if they'd both been booked to begin with but the way it has turned around from us potentially losing Toone for 3 games to Spurs now losing a player for 2 games is a bit odd.
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That's a bit weird. I was thinking that they'd perhaps ask Summanen for her comments on the incident prior to ruling on Toone's possible suspension. She (Summanen) might've said it wasn't that bad, Toone's suspension rescinded and that would be the end of it.
 
top1whoisman said:
That's a bit weird. I was thinking that they'd perhaps ask Summanen for her comments on the incident prior to ruling on Toone's possible suspension. She (Summanen) might've said it wasn't that bad, Toone's suspension rescinded and that would be the end of it.
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My guess is they asked the ref afterwards and they concluded that they wouldn't have sent Toone off if they'd been able to see it again and were somewhat conned by Summanen's reaction. The odd thing is that it blames the player for the referee guessing or misinterpreting what she saw and that if Toone hadn't been sent off at the time there would be no subsequent punishment for Summanen either.
 
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RORY65 said:
My guess is they asked the ref afterwards and they concluded that they wouldn't have sent Toone off if they'd been able to see it again and were somewhat conned by Summanen's reaction. The odd thing is that blames the player for the referee guessing or misinterpreting what she saw and that if Toone hadn't been sent off at the time there would be no subsequent punishment for Summanen either.
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I'm all for actions to cut out cheating and play-acting from the game so in that sense I'm kind of happy that Summanen has to answer to the FA. But you're right, the ref is the one who made the mistake. What Summanen did happens on every single matchday in the PL, for example. And when red cards are correctly not given in this type of incidents, there's never any punishment for the party that pretends they are hurt. Outside of the ref saying "get up". So in that sense this feels a bit strange.
 
top1whoisman said:
I'm all for actions to cut out cheating and play-acting from the game so in that sense I'm kind of happy that Summanen has to answer to the FA. But you're right, the ref is the one who made the mistake. What Summanen did happens on every single matchday in the PL, for example. And when red cards are correctly not given in this type of incidents, there's never any punishment for the party that pretends they are hurt. Outside of the ref saying "get up". So in that sense this feels a bit strange.
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Maybe this could start a precedent that could feed back into the men's game. It may help stamp out the play acting.
 
I assume the ref reported that without Summanen's face holding she'd have made a different decision. In that situation, it's more or less the ref withdrawing the red card.

That said, I do wonder if the follow up charge means Summanen is the unlucky one the FA has decided to "make an example".

I also wonder if the case would have have been heard at all if it hadn't been live on Sky and if Ella wasn't a lioness. Of course, it's such a novelty for us to be on the right side of a FA decision that I'm still looking for the catch :D
 
Summanen has now been banned for 2 games for 'deceiving a match official', holding her face when Ella never touched her face.
The man's game should take note
 
Maybe it's already been posted somewhere, but it seems like Tooney's recently become a YouTuber. I really like her personality off the pitch, proper Mancunian, while on the pitch she seems like a fighter. Barely ever smiles and looks genuinely disgusted with herself whenever she makes the wrong decision, loses the ball, misses a chance etc.

https://www.youtube.com/@EllaToone7

The last one "Day In The Life with Ben Foster"

 
A nice chat about modern United legends with Fozzy.



Love having players like Tooney who are United through and through. Will probably happen more often in the future as we have a WSL first team at the end of the academy pipeline.
 
Fran Kirby is out for the League Cup final against Arsenal tomorrow so something tells me that she will be back for the game against us next weekend.
 
Heardy said:
Oh I agree, just gutting to weather the storm and concede so late.

That said, they’ll have learned a lot from that experience, more so than if they’d won 1-0.
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As Emma Hayes said they have to play these sort of games coming up to a World Cup. Not all games are going to be easy or similar opposition.
 
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