It would indeed be fascinating to consider this lineup, as each individual's judgment criteria differ. Some might view a player as merely a hard man, while others might see them as outright dirty and ruthless. I am curious about the perspectives and judgment criteria of others. If you were to create this XI, how would you do it? My criteria are that the players must excel in both skill and "dirty" play. I would love to hear from our friends.
Dirtiest players all time xi(only on the pitch)
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Luis Suárez - Eric Cantona - Diego Costa
Billy Bremner - Graeme Souness
Mark van Bommel
Claudio Gentile - Pepe - Marco Materazzi - Sergio Ramos
Oliver Kahn
Maybe this? Not sure if Schumacher was that bad outside of that tackle. Cantona was genuinely unhinged in his younger days.Billy Bremner - Graeme Souness
Mark van Bommel
Claudio Gentile - Pepe - Marco Materazzi - Sergio Ramos
Oliver Kahn
We surely need a space for Paolo Montero. He would always be sent off in Champ Man back in the day and I believe he has the most reds in Serie A History.
We should also do a sneaky cheats XI where Fernandinho and Busquets need to be in a double pivot.
We should also do a sneaky cheats XI where Fernandinho and Busquets need to be in a double pivot.
can understand busquets shout even though its a bit of a myth but why Fernandinho?
Gentile sticks out for me a proper thug, wouldn't last a minute in the modern game. Nigel De Jong is another that comes to mind.
Vinnie Jones and Roy Keane should be in that XI
........Diego Costa.......Duncan Ferguson
.......................Luis Suarez.........................
.....De Jong....................Gattuso..........
....................Vinnie Jones ....................
Montero....Pepe....Materrazi.....Gentile
.......................Luis Suarez.........................
.....De Jong....................Gattuso..........
....................Vinnie Jones ....................
Montero....Pepe....Materrazi.....Gentile
Desailly and Ruggeri struck me as hard bastard also.
Shearer was a dirty bastard.
Shearer was a dirty bastard.
Fat ass user Kenny Dalglish deserves a shout out too
hard and dirty are two different things though....if we going with hard bastards then sergio ramos is nowhear near the team while he walks into dirty XI.
The entire 1970 Leeds team.
Constant sly fouls to stop counters.
so he is guilty of being a good player? assumed it was that crsp but wanted to double check
I hate fouling like this. Really harms the game. I am tempted to suggest a straight red for any deliberate foul anywhere on the pitch. The current system encourages fouling as it is insufficiently harshly punished.
As an aside on reds, I think a red should force an automatic sub if the team has any subs left (that should be reduced back to 3) rather than sending them down to 10 men but that is mostly due to the game being mostly terrible when it is not 11 vs 11.
Materazzi, a player so vile he couldn't play the game without bullying people. Literally integral to his "playing" style, at least that's how he saw the game, if not the world. He certainly was talented, but he's also an example of someone so, uh, contentious, that the things remembered about it him, when all's said and done, really aren't just the accolades for club and country.
absolute nonsense
I tend to agree with him... maybe straight red cards are too harsh, but players should be booked earlier. I hate those cynical fouls to stop the counter or to give the team time to reorganize.
How do tactical fouls improve the game?
@Physiocrat @deef
they are part of the game management, one of the many differences between top clubs and lesser ones, same applies for players.
Some people hate it, i personally love it...that Carvajal red card and Suarez handball at WC are better and more pleasing then any other goal at those tournaments.
Game is already ruined with moronic rules where everyting is a penalty, every contact is a foul...add this and similar crap and game would be gone. Its not a surprise game is today being ran by kids and almost all top players are kids, starting to play and shine at 16 years of age....why wouldnt they? No contact in the game, no proper characters in the game as players get treated like spoiled kids so even the older ones never grow up etc.
they are part of the game management, one of the many differences between top clubs and lesser ones, same applies for players.
Some people hate it, i personally love it...that Carvajal red card and Suarez handball at WC are better and more pleasing then any other goal at those tournaments.
Game is already ruined with moronic rules where everyting is a penalty, every contact is a foul...add this and similar crap and game would be gone. Its not a surprise game is today being ran by kids and almost all top players are kids, starting to play and shine at 16 years of age....why wouldnt they? No contact in the game, no proper characters in the game as players get treated like spoiled kids so even the older ones never grow up etc.
I agree on penalties and contact. There are penalties for absolutely nothing and players can be sent off for great tackles. However, there is a big difference between an honest hard tackle that is mistimed and a deliberate sneaky cynical foul. The former should be part of the game, the latter should not. On penalties, I have long held the view that only denying clear goalscoring opportunities should result in a penalty.
agree to disagree then, i think its a must that its in the game.
Gary
Gary Lineker shitting himself on a football pitch, dirty bastardo!
Gary Lineker shitting himself on a football pitch, dirty bastardo!
Kevin Muscat and Ben Thatcher would make this. Absolutely loathe these kind of players who lack ability to deal with a talented player so bypass controlled aggression and go straight into thuggery under the guise of being “hard-men”.
I always wonder why players like this don’t go into MMA or any other combat sport if they revel in the aggression and physicality so much but I suspect it’s because for all their posturing they know they are a bunch of cowards. ( also see Neil Ruddock and Vinny Jones).
I always wonder why players like this don’t go into MMA or any other combat sport if they revel in the aggression and physicality so much but I suspect it’s because for all their posturing they know they are a bunch of cowards. ( also see Neil Ruddock and Vinny Jones).
Don't think tactical fouling is something that is feasible to eliminate from the game, but it does seem to be an area that refs are too lenient with when it comes to giving out yellow cards, at least for the biggest clubs. It should still be a risk in itself, not an easy go-to method to disrupt transitional changes because all that's ever likely to happen is you give away a free-kick.
And quite a few of the Chelsea team as well!
Joe Jordan should be in the mix.
Watch this and you'll realise that no player in the last 30 years are anywhere near dirty enough to be on this list!
Going full force for tackle with obvious intent to injure players. I've seen Desailly and Ruggeri did those. And in my book that's dirty play.
Not any one individual player, but this is a shithousing, foul filled classic. Vital qualifying game for 1978 WC and the Spanish waste no time from kick-off, watch the player (Juanito maybe) that jogs past the ref after the initial stoppage. Then both teams just lose their heads entirely.