Diego plays better when he starts ?

Rod

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Didn't have any video for the Chelsea game. But it seems Diego is performing better in games he starts, rather than as a substitute. Is this his best role, playing the whole game when Ruud or Ole need a rest ? Does he need to feel that "he's the striker" ?
 
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although i was only able to listen to the game, it seemed like diego was kinda left out as the lone striker. i wouldn't say he played better than as a sub, it's just over the course of 90 minutes you'll have a better chance of scoring than say 15-20 mins....
 
Err, I saw the game. Diego was abysmal apart from the goal. Sorry to say, but it is the truth. The goal flattered to deceive really, and I really do want Forlan to perform well but he was not good.
 
You are one to talk mr hypocrite. Weren't you the one who started moaning here when Ruud did not do well against Nantes in your opinion?
The topic is calling for an opinion and I gave the simple fact. I am not the only one who has noticed either. End of.
 
Originally posted by Kevin:
<strong>You are one to talk mr hypocrite. Weren't you the one who started moaning here when Ruud did not do well against Nantes in your opinion?</strong><hr></blockquote>

What? <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />

I might have said that RVN had a bad game, which he did, kept shooting straight at their keeper.
 
Originally posted by Kevin:
<strong>Always a fecking moaner.</strong><hr></blockquote>

It's not the same, and you know it. Have you ever given any credit to Forlan?
 
Are you mistaking me for one of your 10 billion imaginary fellow keyboard warrior enemies on here?
I have in fact, complimented Forlan whenever he's deserved it and posted nothing whenever he did not because he usually came on as a sub. Never joined in on slagging him. If there is such an option to look through one's posting history on here, please be my guest since you seem to be around here often enough to do it...
 
Originally posted by Kevin:
<strong>Are you mistaking me for one of your 10 billion enemies on here?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Possibly. :)
 
Uh... the question is, does Diego need to start to give him the confidence to score.
I've noticed he will often delay while he tees the ball up instead of blasting right away. I only saw a short clip of his goal vs Chelsea (thanks farawaylands) and here he is running on to a pass and shoots on the run without hesitation.
 
Actually I don't found any goods on Diego Forlan,maybe he's good at finishing only.You see the match against Chelsea,you will know what happen.He's too bad at break through and had made a lot of passing mistakes in that match.But still lucky that he scored 1 goal and atleast he din't become a liability for Man Utd.Give him some time.He could be a good player 1 day <img src="graemlins/yawn.gif" border="0" alt="[Yawn]" />
 
Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
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What? <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />

I might have said that RVN had a bad game, which he did, kept shooting straight at their keeper.</strong><hr></blockquote>

when did you become a moaner Weaste? ;)

I don't think Kevin knows who/what he's dealing with. <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
 
I don't think playing as the lone striker really suits Diego, which isn't his fault. Just don't think he's got enough of a physical presence that I'd want to see him play that role on a regular basis.

Like always, he worked really hard before his goal though and I thought he looked lively at times during the match although overall I did think he was a bit peripheral until the goal. Like the Liverpool match though, it's good to see that even though he wasn't in the centre of things for most of the match...that when his chance came, he took it. That's a wonderful attribute for a striker to have.

I know Fergie didn't have a lot of options with Ruud/Ole's injuries; but I do think we'd get the best out of Diego if we played him off of another striker.
 
Originally posted by Kevin:
<strong>Err, I saw the game. Diego was abysmal apart from the goal. Sorry to say, but it is the truth. The goal flattered to deceive really, and I really do want Forlan to perform well but he was not good.</strong><hr></blockquote>

He wasn't abysmal, but he wasn't brilliant either.

He is always likely to be useful tho, and when the rest of the team is playing well, especially midfield, he's capable of scoring a goal or two.
 
Few players can turn it on just like that in the few minutes they are given as a sub. Forlan played okay against Chelsea, but he did score against Southampton as a sub too. Besides, Forlan is always given only a few minutes when he is a sub and that is not enought to gauge his ability as a substitute I feel.
 
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i think due to Ole's efforts people are over-estimating what a substitute is capable of doing in 10-15 minutes. We'll never have another Ole sub scenario again. Theres very few players in the world who can come off the bench and instantly pick the pace of the game up. Ole should be given credit for being a very clever player, who doesnt just spend his time on the bench joking around. He observes the game properly & knows how to make his impact when he comes on. He'll make a damn good coach someday.

As for Forlan, i personally think he's better when he starts. And better when he starts with a partner alongside him.
 
Originally posted by golden_blunder:
<strong>i think due to Ole's efforts people are over-estimating what a substitute is capable of doing in 10-15 minutes. We'll never have another Ole sub scenario again. Theres very few players in the world who can come off the bench and instantly pick the pace of the game up. Ole should be given credit for being a very clever player, who doesnt just spend his time on the bench joking around. He observes the game properly & knows how to make his impact when he comes on. He'll make a damn good coach someday.

As for Forlan, i personally think he's better when he starts. And better when he starts with a partner alongside him.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Flashback... bloody hell, we're being Dortmunded again. 2 substitutions are made. 2 goals are scored. Bloody hell, I don't believe this.
 
Originally posted by Rod:
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Flashback... bloody hell, we're being Dortmunded again. 2 substitutions are made. 2 goals are scored. Bloody hell, I don't believe this.</strong><hr></blockquote>

you know i meant consistently Rod. dont be picky.
Ole is one of few players in the world who can consistently come on and pick the pace of the game up straight away. Thats a compliment to Ole btw.
 
Forlan is showing some great skill and touches now he has confidence. He'll never be a physical presence like Ruud, so we'll have to accept that he's gonna next knocked off the ball, that was my only critism last night.

It made me appreciate the way RVN fights for every ball, and wins about 95% of his tussles.

As for the title topic; everyone plays better when they start (even Ole)
 
Originally posted by RUnited:
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when did you become a moaner Weaste? ;)

I don't think Kevin knows who/what he's dealing with. <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

Err, it was the other way around. And I don't think you know of posts happening of a half year+ ago. So please stay out of this as you obviously don't know who are what you're dealing with yourself. I think you have enough rants to take care of already on here ;)
 
Originally posted by Red15:
<strong>I don't think playing as the lone striker really suits Diego, which isn't his fault. Just don't think he's got enough of a physical presence that I'd want to see him play that role on a regular basis.

I do think we'd get the best out of Diego if we played him off of another striker.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Agree 100%. I didn't watch the game but from what I've seen of him as a lone striker he looks a bit pointless/out of sorts at times. He should always play off another striker as he is more suited to being part of a double-act than a one-man-band.
 
The good thing about him is that he does score late goals...ie when he does start, he's still sharp at the end of the game, and on recent evidence can be relied upon to put the chances away.
 
Originally posted by Kevin:
<strong>Err, I saw the game. Diego was abysmal apart from the goal. Sorry to say, but it is the truth. The goal flattered to deceive really, and I really do want Forlan to perform well but he was not good.</strong><hr></blockquote>
<img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[No No]" /> When it comes to Blondy, The fu*ken truth has no place On this Foerum. <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" />
 
Originally posted by golden_blunder:
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you know i meant consistently Rod. dont be picky.
Ole is one of few players in the world who can consistently come on and pick the pace of the game up straight away. Thats a compliment to Ole btw.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I was referring (a bit cryptically) to the astonishing impact Teddy and Ole made coming on against Bayern... both "thinking" players. Thanks to those who responded here... feedback seems to indicate that it takes a smart experienced player to have an impact as a sub at the top level; also that Diego at this stage needs support on the field. In light of this it was perhaps expecting an awful lot from Diego to make it as a sub. Now he's getting a fair go he's at least getting somewhere.