Didier Deschamps | Leaving French NT after 2026 World Cup

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Follows Beckenbauer and Zagallo in doing the player/manager world cup winning route.

Not a bad little few weeks for his reputation which was needed after 2016.

Not a favourite on here although way Redcafe works he'll probably be put forward as candidate when Mourinho goes!
 
He was bound to win a trophy with this stacked France side.
 
You can't lose with this France team. the talent they have is crazy.

They were able to leave Martial, Benzema out, Dembele, Fekir on the bench. that's just in attack.
 
It might be churlish but I still don't really rate him that much.

Still he's just won the bloody World Cup so I doubt he cares what people think. Fair play to him
 
His strategies are obviously a bit pragmatic (therefore not all that exciting) but he's done his job ultimately. Deserves massive respect.
 
Follow that Zidane. Good period for France. Quality players and quality potential coming though the ranks.
 
I still find the overboard criticism of him laughable to say the least. People love to delude themselves that 'with those players you should be playing tippy tappy 10 goals per match football' shit.

Happy he's won it, deserved imo.
 
VorZakone said:
He was bound to win a trophy with this stacked France side.
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French posters on here were saying round of 16/quarters before tournament started although think JP Rourve was making point more about random nature of KO football which we saw with Brazil who'd have easily made the final if they were on the other half.

Losing in 2016 helped France I think. Matured them a little more in KO rounds.

Varane was simply magnificent aswell. Textbook lesson in defending and he has become the leader France need at the back.
 
His team looked like strangers in the opening game.

Still feels as if France have won in spite of him not because of him. But perhaps that’s unfair.
 
Plenty of very talented teams have never gelled for some reason. Might not have been pretty but they won all sorts of games against very tough knockout opponents. Also got to final in 2016. Foolish to criticise him after winning a World Cup
 
And yeah, another thing, why is it that your Argentinas cannot win despite the manager and France can?
 
balaks said:
Yes it's very unfair
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Plenty of French football journalists were not confident going into the World Cup, not just because of his pragmatism but because of what hard work he makes of getting France to play well and with some sort of cohesiveness/semblence to their play.

They were woeful in the groups - looked liked they'd never played together before. That why he's is criticised, because given the talent at his disposal and the number of years he has been in charge, he was still stumbling upon decisions even as the tournament got underway.
 
A lot of people were discounting France's chances before the tournament because of him. As with Roberto Martinez it's only fair to say he's done damn well.

Other managers have lost with similarly talented teams.
 
Kostur said:
I still find the overboard criticism of him laughable to say the least. People love to delude themselves that 'with those players you should be playing tippy tappy 10 goals per match football' shit.

Happy he's won it, deserved imo.
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It is laughable, I don't like his approach and never did, not with Marseilles or Monaco but he is a good manager. He can build a team mentally and he will create a team difficult to beat, it's not a coincidence.
 
Managing NTs is a strange business. Scolari was an hero in Portugal between 2004-2006, and who can disagree looking at the results? Look at his XI in the first match (and loss) against Greece though, and you can see an idiot in the making.

I uttery enjoyed his stint at Chelsea and Brazil 2014.

Don't know much abou Deschamps, but I think NT managers have a somewhat overrated and random role. To think Santos got the best international result ever for Portgal should tell you all you need to know about it. Mourinho could manage us for 20 years and never get to a final. International football is just like that...
 
He obviously isn't anywhere as bad as people here make you believe. He reached a CL final with Monaco, won Marseille their only L1 title in like 3 decades, Euro finals and now World Cup winner. Maybe not elite, but clearly not useless either.
 
He did very well at devising and implementing a winning plan. All his decisions were on point and paid off.

His style may not tingle the fancy bits of pepists but what matters is the victory.
 
Jacko21 said:
Plenty of French football journalists were not confident going into the World Cup, not just because of his pragmatism but because of what hard work he makes of getting France to play well and with some sort of cohesiveness/semblence to their play.

They were woeful in the groups - looked liked they'd never played together before. That why he's is criticised, because given the talent at his disposal and the number of years he has been in charge, he was still stumbling upon decisions even as the tournament got underway.
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I always find these criticisms of national team coaches weird. They get probably 6 weeks out of the entire year to practice together so you can't expect them to ever have close to the cohesiveness of a club side.

How you can criticize a manager who just one a World Cup going through the likes of Brazil, Belgium, and Argentina is beyond me.

A coach that plays attacking football != good coach
 
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It was France's talent that won that World cup, not some masterclass by DD. Still don't rate him.
 
MackRobinson said:
I always find these criticisms of national team coaches weird. They get probably 6 weeks out of the entire year to practice together so you can't expect them to ever have close to the cohesiveness of a club side.

How you can criticize a manager who just one a World Cup going through the likes of Brazil, Belgium, and Argentina is beyond me.

A coach that plays attacking football != good coach
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It’s reasonable to assume that a manager who has been in charge for far longer the average national coach, would have a clearer sense of identity/semblance in their play. The fact that there were so many question marks against him going into this tournemount is indicative of how he is viewed.

He’s clearly a good man-manager, which is an advantage on the international stage.
 
It's daft to look at all those players and want France to win 6 nil every game playing flair footy. His job was to win the WC without fecking up and taking stupid risks. They beat some great teams along the way, never looked troubled and played some good stuff.

It's an excellent job by him under lots of pressure.
 
Jacko21 said:
It’s reasonable to assume that a manager who has been in charge for far longer the average national coach, would have a clearer sense of identity/semblance in their play. The fact that there were so many question marks against him going into this tournemount is indicative of how he is viewed.

He’s clearly a good man-manager, which is an advantage on the international stage.
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It's reasonable but completely overstated. These players are being drilled constantly in the tactics of their clubs teams. I actually think it's outside of the norm for a national team to run like a well oiled machine, especially when most of the players play on different club teams.

France were 2nd in the Euros and just won the World Cup. I'm not talking about you but it's mind boggling to me that others say they don't rate Deschamps. It tells me that their criteria for a good manager is based on personal biases and little else.

Trizy said:
It was France's talent that won that World cup, not some masterclass by DD. Still don't rate him.
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Case in point.
 
He has a midfield of Kante-Matuidi-Pogba, the best counter attacking player in the world in Mbappe and people want them to dominate possession... Deschamps has his faults and he's not anything special but he's done well. That was true regardless of the results, it was true in 2016 too.

This team isn't any different from the one that drew 0-0 against Luxembourg a few months ago.
 
The football nerds on here under estimate mentality and team spirit.

Deschamps has done superb.
 
Can't really blame him. France had an answer for everything teams had to throw at them and nobody could stop them at the other end. What more can you ask for? He plays with low risk but set up the team for his most dangerous weapons to flourish.
 
This man needs a dentist.

C'est impossible de penser qu'une personne ayant beaucoup du succès doit avoir de si mauvaises dents.
 
Peyroteo said:
He has a midfield of Kante-Matuidi-Pogba, the best counter attacking player in the world in Mbappe and people want them to dominate possession... Deschamps has his faults and he's not anything special but he's done well. That was true regardless of the results, it was true in 2016 too.
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With players like Pogba, Rabiot, Benzema, Griezmann, Fekir, Mbappe, Nzonzi and ball playing CB like Varane, Laporte and Umtiti... you can play the possession.
 
Jacko21 said:
His team looked like strangers in the opening game.

Still feels as if France have won in spite of him not because of him. But perhaps that’s unfair.
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Well he changed the team and went back to plating Giroud which is what a lot of people cried about prior to the tournament.
 
Needs a new set of gnashers.
Credit to him. Not a fan of his football but it's very effective.
 
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