Did anyone read how the Americans say that United are cowards!!

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In the Mirror today some idiot US reporter claimed that United are scared of playing any MLS teams, does he not realize that the standard of football in the MLS is only slightly better than Sunday League...

I realize that US readers will argue with that and yes I will agree but this idiot seems to think that United playing the Mexican Champions (better than MLS) and Juventus (better than MLS) as well as Glasgow Celtic (also better than MLS) is down to United being scared...

I would really love to see United add one more game to their schedule, a game against the MLS champions but I realize that the undoubted humiliation might set the game back years in the states... :cool: ...
 
Went through this last week.....

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The only reason is that it costs a fortune to bring a squad of world class players over the atlantic to play a bunch of sunday league players. However much they may taunt.
 
Hi,

I'm the US reporter that wrote the article about Man Utd ducking MLS opposition for their summer tour. Do you not agree that it is wrong for a team to come to a country and not play against at least one team from that country. Many people contacted me to air their frustrations at my article. I think though that a lot of their frustration was anger at their own club that has become a corporate machine, and is coming over to the richest country in the world to cash in by trying to sell more of their merchandise, without giving anything in return in terms of trying to enrich the standards of the MLS or broaden it's appeal to US residents.
 
Originally posted by Beau-Dure:
<strong>Hi,

I'm the US reporter that wrote the article about Man Utd ducking MLS opposition for their summer tour. Do you not agree that it is wrong for a team to come to a country and not play against at least one team from that country. Many people contacted me to air their frustrations at my article. I think though that a lot of their frustration was anger at their own club that has become a corporate machine, and is coming over to the richest country in the world to cash in by trying to sell more of their merchandise, without giving anything in return in terms of trying to enrich the standards of the MLS or broaden it's appeal to US residents.</strong><hr></blockquote>


Whether we play some sorry Yank team or Barcelona etc I couldn't care less about. But, why did you focus only on Man United in your article, and not one Celtic, Juve and Barca as well?
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Originally posted by Beau-Dure:
<strong>Hi,

Do you not agree that it is wrong for a team to come to a country and not play against at least one team from that country.</strong><hr></blockquote>

No we don't agree, I will be buying flights, tickets to the game, why would I want to spend all that money watching them playing a bunch of unknowns.

Also having two top teams on display is a bigger advert for game and so attract more attention etc etc to the sport.

The NFL do it too, regularly two top teams will fly around the world doing exhibition games against each other.

Yes United PLC is a money making machine which we may not necessarily like but that's what pays those huge salaries for our squad, we realize there is a real world out there which has a price tag on it.
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Originally posted by Beau-Dure:
<strong>Hi,

I'm the US reporter that wrote the article about Man Utd ducking MLS opposition for their summer tour. Do you not agree that it is wrong for a team to come to a country and not play against at least one team from that country. Many people contacted me to air their frustrations at my article. I think though that a lot of their frustration was anger at their own club that has become a corporate machine, and is coming over to the richest country in the world to cash in by trying to sell more of their merchandise, without giving anything in return in terms of trying to enrich the standards of the MLS or broaden it's appeal to US residents.</strong><hr></blockquote>

No one wants to see United play an MLS team, there's no appeal to it. It's nothing to do with selling more merchandise either. Do you really think it'll make a difference?, how many extra shirts and crap do you think a US tour would generate...?

We're not the Harlem Globetrotters, United need quality opposition to prepare them for the 2003 season, not some college nancy boys.
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Maybe that's because that Americans have no idea about who Juventus, Barcelona, and Celtic are....
;)
 
No,It's just because US do not have the knowledge bout soccer,what they really know is some stupid gossips and opinion
 
Originally posted by Beau-Dure:
<strong>Hi,

I'm the US reporter that wrote the article about Man Utd ducking MLS opposition for their summer tour. Do you not agree that it is wrong for a team to come to a country and not play against at least one team from that country. Many people contacted me to air their frustrations at my article. I think though that a lot of their frustration was anger at their own club that has become a corporate machine, and is coming over to the richest country in the world to cash in by trying to sell more of their merchandise, without giving anything in return in terms of trying to enrich the standards of the MLS or broaden it's appeal to US residents.</strong><hr></blockquote>

What a load of rubbish! U've just showed your lack of knowledge of the game.

The word 'coward' implies that we aren't playing MLS teams because we are scared of the competition.

USA? who the hell are they in world football? A little luck in the world cup and suddenly they are a force? Nah!

Who's any good in the MLS? A load of retired pros. van Nistelrooy would be getting American Football scores against your boys. Your womens team would put up more opposition.

Whos made it from USA? Cobby Jones? Lalas? Reyna, friedel and lewis play for sh!te teams and they are supposed to be stars!

Clearly the USA Today will publish anything about a game they don't know.
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Originally posted by Beau-Dure:
<strong>Hi,

I'm the US reporter that wrote the article about Man Utd ducking MLS opposition for their summer tour. Do you not agree that it is wrong for a team to come to a country and not play against at least one team from that country. Many people contacted me to air their frustrations at my article. I think though that a lot of their frustration was anger at their own club that has become a corporate machine, and is coming over to the richest country in the world to cash in by trying to sell more of their merchandise, without giving anything in return in terms of trying to enrich the standards of the MLS or broaden it's appeal to US residents.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I agree that United should play at least one team from the country they are visiting. And I am sure they will do so, but I do not think that it will make any headlines anywhere except in the USA.
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Manchester United play local opposition on their Far East tours, why shouldn't they play MLS teams? My answer would also be because MLS teams are shit. But how much more shit than say the Thai teams or Chinese teams we thrash (or barely beat 1-0 in the case when I saw them play South China). I think the big differnce between this US tour and previous tours is that Manchester United is not merely selling itself but also football and that is why Barca, Celtic and Juve are part of the tour. I don't know if it's the best tactic to raise interest in the States for football as opposed to playing local teams.
 
United should play an MLS team. I love the fact that Barcelona, Juve and Celtic are coming over. How wonderful for them, but I still understand the desire to see an MLS team play the best the Premiership has to offer. The MLS is not as bad as people make it out to be, so play a bloody match against the LA Galaxy for example. There is no harm in that.
 
I don't think it is a good advert for the game for us to play a MLS game (aren't their rules different?). The Americans have a superiority complex and wouldn't want to be humiliated by foreigners - which would happen.
 
Originally posted by Beau-Dure:
<strong>Hi,

I'm the US reporter that wrote the article about Man Utd ducking MLS opposition for their summer tour. Do you not agree that it is wrong for a team to come to a country and not play against at least one team from that country. Many people contacted me to air their frustrations at my article. I think though that a lot of their frustration was anger at their own club that has become a corporate machine, and is coming over to the richest country in the world to cash in by trying to sell more of their merchandise, without giving anything in return in terms of trying to enrich the standards of the MLS or broaden it's appeal to US residents.</strong><hr></blockquote>

So Beau, why not write a column about the response you got from United fans. Might want to mention that you were so intrigued that you joined one of the forums and met many of the fans. Stick around, we don't bite, we're just passionate. Hell, you might learn a thing or two.

;)
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Originally posted by redanton:
<strong>I don't think it is a good advert for the game for us to play a MLS game (aren't their rules different?). The Americans have a superiority complex and wouldn't want to be humiliated by foreigners - which would happen.</strong><hr></blockquote>


BTW redanton,
I would be careful to generalize all Americans as having a superiority complex when it comes to the sport. Those who know, know better than to have that kind of attitude about soccer. It is after all a game perfected by the Europeans and South Americans.
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Originally posted by Zheng Khai Xiang:
<strong>No,It's just because US do not have the knowledge bout soccer,what they really know is some stupid gossips and opinion</strong><hr></blockquote>

I'm American and I have an extensive knowledge of the game.
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Originally posted by MrMarcello:
<strong>

I'm American and I have an extensive knowledge of the game.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Or so you think...
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Originally posted by MrMarcello:
<strong>

I'm American and I have an extensive knowledge of the game.</strong><hr></blockquote>

And modest too. You've got it all. :p
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I must admit, I find it a little puzzling that United are to tour the USA and not play any MLS teams. Though I don't think cowardice comes into it if Juve and Celtic are the opposistion.
It's a strange one. Maybe it is United being a bit sniffy about the standard of the MLS?
My guess is United, Juve and Celtic have joined up in some kind of marketing exercise to break into the North American market.
 
Originally posted by Beau-Dure:
<strong>Hi,

I'm the US reporter that wrote the article about Man Utd ducking MLS opposition for their summer tour. Do you not agree that it is wrong for a team to come to a country and not play against at least one team from that country. Many people contacted me to air their frustrations at my article. I think though that a lot of their frustration was anger at their own club that has become a corporate machine, and is coming over to the richest country in the world to cash in by trying to sell more of their merchandise, without giving anything in return in terms of trying to enrich the standards of the MLS or broaden it's appeal to US residents.</strong><hr></blockquote>


feck off!
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Look - I live in the shadows of Giant stadium.Its about the gate.The money.Man Utd against the metro stars isn't big execpt for United fans and metro star fans(which there aren't many).NYC has a large Italian following.Against United? Full house.Real Madrid played A.S. Roma last summer - sold out the stadium.Add to the fact that they double the prices ,2 games- Metro Stars against someone,and Juve - United.
Of course many Americans don't know a good thing when it falls in their lap.The Rangers played River Plate and most of the metro Star fans(mainly families )left probably not knowing why the ticket prices were raised that day.
 
load of bullshits... most of the americans juz focus on hockey, how many percentages are in soccer
 
A-this article is not serious, don't take it that way

B-MLS has improved and the player makeup and style of play has changed quite a bit since the league's founding, if you don't watch matches or follow the league, don't pretend you understand MLS

C-Americans are proud (this you probably already know) and to deny our boys a game, while giving a club from our biggest rival (who we've beaten 5 of the last 6 international meetings) a match is a huge slap in the face.

In the Mirror today some idiot US reporter claimed that United are scared of playing any MLS teams, does he not realize that the standard of football in the MLS is only slightly better than Sunday League...<hr></blockquote>
The article was tongue-in-cheek. MLS isn't exactly La Liga, but you underestimate it.

The NFL do it too, regularly two top teams will fly around the world doing exhibition games against each other.<hr></blockquote>
Yes, but there is literally no local competition in American football outside of the states. Soccer/football is THE most popular youth sport in the country. We have male and female professional leagues, several in the former case. Why not humor yourselves?

No one wants to see United play an MLS team, there's no appeal to it. It's nothing to do with selling more merchandise either. Do you really think it'll make a difference?, how many extra shirts and crap do you think a US tour would generate...?

We're not the Harlem Globetrotters, United need quality opposition to prepare them for the 2003 season, not some college nancy boys.
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Why wouldn't Americans want to see how their boys stand up against the world's richest club? Americans like to watch Americans play. MLS gets much higher ratings than UEFA Champions' League, US World Cup matches outdrew everything else but Mexico's games and the final.

Manchester United happily play against Far Eastern clubs that are much worse than anything MLS could possibly offer. Club America is not better tha every MLS club.

What a load of rubbish! U've just showed your lack of knowledge of the game.

The word 'coward' implies that we aren't playing MLS teams because we are scared of the competition.

USA? who the hell are they in world football? A little luck in the world cup and suddenly they are a force? Nah!

Who's any good in the MLS? A load of retired pros. van Nistelrooy would be getting American Football scores against your boys. Your womens team would put up more opposition.

Whos made it from USA? Cobby Jones? Lalas? Reyna, friedel and lewis play for sh!te teams and they are supposed to be stars!
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The article is a wind-up that you seem to be falling for.

MLS has many young players who show potential. The Mathaeus' and Luis Herndaez's are a thing of the past.

Friedel is, in many English opinions, one of the two or three best goalkeepers in England. I daresay that he is probably better than any of the English netminders.

Manchester United play local opposition on their Far East tours, why shouldn't they play MLS teams? My answer would also be because MLS teams are shit. But how much more shit than say the Thai teams or Chinese teams we thrash (or barely beat 1-0 in the case when I saw them play South China). <hr></blockquote>
MLS teams are much better than most of the Far Eastern teams Manchester United have played in the past. USA has a decent international record, our young players are attracting a lot of attention from Europe, and MLS has made significant strides. I don't fancy our chances, but it wouldn't be a walkover.

I don't think it is a good advert for the game for us to play a MLS game (aren't their rules different?). The Americans have a superiority complex and wouldn't want to be humiliated by foreigners - which would happen. <hr></blockquote>
MLS game rules are identical except for a 10 minute sudden death overtime if the match is tied at the end of regulation. Of course, a deadlock between Utd. and an MLS squad, after 90 minutes, is inconceivable.
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There's also probably a Nike angle on this us and Barca where Nike, maybe Celtic and Juve signing next year?

Why a game in Seattle, Nike corporate head office is only an hour or so south in Portland?
 
Don't take it to heart guys, from the article it's clear that this guy has no clue *whatsoever* about football in the very least.

Ruud van Nistelrooy knows he can't put any shots past Kevin Hartman and Adin Brown. These aren't the second-rate Scandinavian goalkeepers he faces in England <hr></blockquote>

I mean WTF?!? Need I go on?
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Originally posted by Beau-Dure:
<strong>Hi,

I'm the US reporter that wrote the article about Man Utd ducking MLS opposition for their summer tour. Do you not agree that it is wrong for a team to come to a country and not play against at least one team from that country. Many people contacted me to air their frustrations at my article. I think though that a lot of their frustration was anger at their own club that has become a corporate machine, and is coming over to the richest country in the world to cash in by trying to sell more of their merchandise, without giving anything in return in terms of trying to enrich the standards of the MLS or broaden it's appeal to US residents.</strong><hr></blockquote>

excuse me??? WTF are u talkin' about...
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i guess u'd better switch back to the HOCKEY channel!!! <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
 
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