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Pogue Mahone

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Who? Exactly. Some random South American striker that Chelsea paid far too much money for a year ago, on (of course) an 8 year contract, who went on to make just three substitute appearances. He cost them something like €20 millon.

Apparently he's on the point of signing for Strasbourg, who are willing to pay more money than Chelsea paid Santos for him. A nice profit for Chelsea, helps them get away with their insane spending spree a bit longer without being done by PSR. Strasbourg, on the other hand have just broken their transfer record to sign this Chelsea player that nobody has heard of. Which seems a bit mad. Until you read on and realise that Strasbourg are owned by BlueCo, the multi-club ownership group which also controls Chelsea.

Remind me why any of us should give a shit about a sport which is so obviously bent?
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Who? Exactly. Some random South American striker that Chelsea paid far too much money for a year ago, on (of course) an 8 year contract, who went on to make just three substitute appearances. He cost them something like €20 millon.

Apparently he's on the point of signing for Strasbourg, who are willing to pay more money than Chelsea paid Santos for him. A nice profit for Chelsea, helps them get away with their insane spending spree a bit longer without being done by PSR. Strasbourg, on the other hand have just broken their transfer record to sign this Chelsea player that nobody has heard of. Which seems a bit mad. Until you read on and realise that Strasbourg are owned by BlueCo, the multi-club ownership group which also controls Chelsea.

Remind me why any of us should give a shit about a sport which is so obviously bent?
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I’m just in it for the forum action.
 
Selling him to their partner club at a profit of 5m on what they paid after he played only about an hour of football for them, absolutely nothing untoward there
 
It's like football manager... adding another manager and selling someone to that team
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Who? Exactly. Some random South American striker that Chelsea paid far too much money for a year ago, on (of course) an 8 year contract, who went on to make just three substitute appearances. He cost them something like €20 millon.

Apparently he's on the point of signing for Strasbourg, who are willing to pay more money than Chelsea paid Santos for him. A nice profit for Chelsea, helps them get away with their insane spending spree a bit longer without being done by PSR. Strasbourg, on the other hand have just broken their transfer record to sign this Chelsea player that nobody has heard of. Which seems a bit mad. Until you read on and realise that Strasbourg are owned by BlueCo, the multi-club ownership group which also controls Chelsea.

Remind me why any of us should give a shit about a sport which is so obviously bent?
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Shows how bad the Glazers have been. With a little more ambition, they could have been running an entire group of clubs into the ground.
 
Ish said:
Why were we barred from doing business with Nice now again, whilst this is allowed? I'm sure there's a reason/difference but I'm just curious.
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Chelsea & Strasbourg aren't both in the same European competition
 
Hold on a minute as I'm a bit confused. I thought multi-club ownership prevented clubs / players from signing for each other to exactly prevent stuff like this - isn't that what happened with United and that Nice defender we were linked to?
 
Ish said:
Why were we barred from doing business with Nice now again, whilst this is allowed? I'm sure there's a reason/difference but I'm just curious.
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Because they wanted to make it look like they actually gave a shit about making the rules fair.

You can guarantee city will limit Girona’s spending power and get them back down into the Europa next season. All UEFA have done is force owners to starve their smaller clubs to keep them in the Europa/Conference. Very unfair for the fans of these clubs.
 
duffer said:
Because you and Nice are in the same competition.
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Santos J said:
Chelsea & Strasbourg aren't both in the same European competition
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Thanks lads, I figured there was a difference in reasoning, but it's still odd. There's clearly a conflict of interest in doing business with yourself, whether you're in the same competition, or not. Like City signing inflated sponsorship deals with the government/companies essentially controlled by their owners. Very murky and becomes a nightmare to regulate.

Dan_F said:
Because they wanted to make it look like they actually gave a shit about making the rules fair.

You can guarantee city will limit Girona’s spending power and get them back down into the Europa next season. All UEFA have done is force owners to starve their smaller clubs to keep them in the Europa/Conference. Very unfair for the fans of these clubs.
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This, too. The smaller clubs stand risk of somewhat just existing as a vehicle to benefit the "bigger" club in this multi-club model
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Who? Exactly. Some random South American striker that Chelsea paid far too much money for a year ago, on (of course) an 8 year contract, who went on to make just three substitute appearances. He cost them something like €20 millon.

Apparently he's on the point of signing for Strasbourg, who are willing to pay more money than Chelsea paid Santos for him. A nice profit for Chelsea, helps them get away with their insane spending spree a bit longer without being done by PSR. Strasbourg, on the other hand have just broken their transfer record to sign this Chelsea player that nobody has heard of. Which seems a bit mad. Until you read on and realise that Strasbourg are owned by BlueCo, the multi-club ownership group which also controls Chelsea.

Remind me why any of us should give a shit about a sport which is so obviously bent?
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This. Happy someone created the thread. Taking a piss.
 
Ish said:
Thanks lads, I figured there was a difference in reasoning, but it's still odd. There's clearly a conflict of interest in doing business with yourself, whether you're in the same competition, or not. Like City signing inflated sponsorship deals with the government/companies essentially controlled by their owners. Very murky and becomes a nightmare to regulate.


This, too. The smaller clubs stand risk of somewhat just existing as a vehicle to benefit the "bigger" club in this multi-club model
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Multi club ownership is worse for football than ffp, var, sugar daddies and sportswashing. I genuinely believe that.
 
Ish said:
Thanks lads, I figured there was a difference in reasoning, but it's still odd. There's clearly a conflict of interest in doing business with yourself, whether you're in the same competition, or not. Like City signing inflated sponsorship deals with the government/companies essentially controlled by their owners. Very murky and becomes a nightmare to regulate.


This, too. The smaller clubs stand risk of somewhat just existing as a vehicle to benefit the "bigger" club in this multi-club model
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They already do. Girona definitely overachieved last year. Although it seems like city were already smart enough to get around UEFA’s rules in advance. I’m sure they had no warning and it was a massive coincidence they were able to sign that Sylvinho guy.
 
Ish said:
Thanks lads, I figured there was a difference in reasoning, but it's still odd. There's clearly a conflict of interest in doing business with yourself, whether you're in the same competition, or not. Like City signing inflated sponsorship deals with the government/companies essentially controlled by their owners. Very murky and becomes a nightmare to regulate.


This, too. The smaller clubs stand risk of somewhat just existing as a vehicle to benefit the "bigger" club in this multi-club model
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It’s all incredibly grubby. If the PL had any balls - and had any intention to use PSR regs to create a level playing field - they should include a clause which ignores any profit on trades between clubs with the same owners.
 
Dan_F said:
They already do. Girona definitely overachieved last year. Although it seems like city were already smart enough to get around UEFA’s rules in advance. I’m sure they had no warning and it was a massive coincidence they were able to sign that Sylvinho guy.
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Yeah, FIFA and UEFA have long lost all credibility. Corrupt institutions.
 
Ish said:
Can't tell if you're serious or not...and would be interested to know why, if so?
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It kills the smaller clubs.

Sugar daddies and ffp makes it much harder for the little guys but multi club ownership outright destroys them. Strasbourg now exist to service Chelsea.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
It’s all incredibly grubby. If the PL had any balls - and had any intention to use PSR regs to create a level playing field - they should include a clause which ignores any profit on trades between clubs with the same owners.
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Yep, 100% this. There should be a zero allowances/tolerance rule where conflicts of interests like these exist - especially if it has financial ramifications.
 
duffer said:
It kills the smaller clubs.

Sugar daddies and ffp makes it much harder for the little guys but multi club ownership outright destroys them. Strasbourg now exist to service Chelsea.
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Aargh, gotcha duffer. Basically what Dan posted a few posts above. Agreed - it shouldn't be allowed.
 
Chelsea seem to be the protagonist in everything that is wrong with football it appears
 
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