Decades Chain Draft - R1: Crappy vs Gio

With players at their level during the designated years, who would win?

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Crappy Tactics

  • Dragan and Salah as attacking wing forwards. Muller can provide presence upfront and also drop back to vacate the space for Salah as he likes.
  • Zidane gets to run the game as he wants. He is deal playmaker to supply someone like Salah or link up with Dragan. Neeskens will play B2B role and Cambiasso the holding midfielder role. Together this is a perfect trio of midfield with both creativity and grit in abundance.
  • Carlos will run the left wing with Dragan. JuanFran for Sevilla was solid defensively and provides an outlet on right to ping crosses for Muller.
  • Chumpitaz and Costacurta compliment each other well as central defence pairing.
  • Overall team is set up to not be married to a rigid playing style. It can dominate possession in some contexts, can absorb pressure and counter attack in others. It can rely on wide players like Carlos, Dragan, Salah to wreck havoc or let Zidane, Neeskens work their magic from central positions to unlock games.
Gio Tactics

One of the most important aspects of a successful 4-2-2-2 is finding that balance between the partnerships up and down the park.
  • Now with Zico in tow there are plenty of shades of Brazil '82 here. But one area where we improve upon is at central defence where the premier stopper Jurgen Kohler plays next to Władysław Żmuda. It's your classic stopper / sweeper combination and Zmuda's credentials should not be underestimated: 21 games at World Cup - the 4th most of all time - leading his defence to two 3rd place finishes, recognised by FIFA's Best Young Player award in 1974 and through the telling praise of Brazil's manager in 1982, Tele Santana: " 'If I had in my team a pair such as Janas - Żmuda, all the other nations would only need to concentrate on the fight for second place.'"

  • The system demands plenty from the full-backs and both have the energy and two-way games to shine. Zanetti's game needs no introduction, while Gemmell was a swashbuckling and relentless overlapper for the Celtic team which dominated Europe in the late 1960s. One of the few players, never mind defenders, to score in more than European Cup Final, Gemmell's 6th place in the 1967 Ballon D'Or is also exceptionally high for a full-back, but helps to demonstrate the impact he had on the game.

  • Frank Rijkaard and Roy Keane provide serious midfield control and tactical intelligence. Both are total all-rounders, but there is a complementary in style between Rijkaard's cerebral leadership and Keane's high-octane drive.

  • Zico and David Silva should be on the same wavelength. Silva offers plenty of smoothness in possession and graft off the ball. He excelled next to the more direct KDB and here with Zico alongside him should get the best out of the goal-hungry Brazilian.

  • Thierry Henry and Karim Benzema come together as a complementary strikeforce. Henry can replicate Eder peeling wide onto the left side, while Benzema should be a synergistic partner, sharing some of Bergkamp's silky hold-up play and back-to-goal presence. Worth highlighting just how devastating Cristiano was playing off Benzema and Henry attacking from the same side and making some similar runs should enjoy similar success.
Ivo Viktor - 69/70 to 74/75

Javier Zanetti - 99/00 to 03/04
Tommy Gemmell - 64/65 to 68/69
Jurgen Kohler - 89/90 to 93/94
Wladyslaw Zmuda - 74/75 to 78/79

Frank Rijkaard - 84/85 to 88/89
Roy Keane - 94/95 to 98/99
Zico - 79/80 to 83/84
David Silva - 09/10 to 13/14

Thierry Henry - 04/05 to 08/09
Karim Benzema - 14/15 to 18/19
 
Both otherwise flawless teams have the wrong No. 9 I think. I don't see what Muller adds to that 4-2-3-1 or Benzema to that 4-2-2-2
 
Gave this to Gio, I can still see Benzema sufficient to an extent albeit without adding much of what the setup needs from its No.9 but Muller simply makes no sense there. With Dzajic/Zidane/Neeskens supplying, you need a Lewandowski and not Muller.
 
Seems like a very odd use of Müller, who always thrived alongside a proper number 9, be it Lewandowski, Mandzukic, Klose etc. He needs to exploit the space that the striker creates, not to play with his back to goal trying to win aerial balls against Kohler-Zmuda-Rijkaard... Especially with Zidane behind him and Dzajic on the left.

GodShaveTheQueen said:
Both otherwise flawless teams have the wrong No. 9 I think. I don't see what Muller adds to that 4-2-3-1 or Benzema to that 4-2-2-2
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Goals, assists, tactical versatility, hold-up play? I mean, what doesn't he add, really, there's probably just a few players ever that you'd rather have next to Henry & Zico that would allow them to play their own game without worrying about anything else.
 
Really good sides from both.

Rijkaard -Keane is frightening.

Not sure on Muller and would have preferred a #9 rather than a F9 there. Still Carlos - Dzajic is phenomenal and would cause lot of problems for Zanetti.

Slightly leaning towards Gio.
 
I think Salah has messed up Crappy's side. He's the reason Muller is false 9. Without Salah, Muller could have played right-forward with a proper 9 up top.
 
Crappy and I suffer similar problem, where our attack isn't that great.

Gio's forwards is a bit off. Henry's period is him at Arsenal as main striker. And there's a reason on that period, Benzema didn't get France NT call because he wasn't that good. But probably work as a foil to Henry.
Still, with that midfield and defence, Gio's is better.
 
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harms said:
Goals, assists, tactical versatility, hold-up play? I mean, what doesn't he add, really, there's probably just a few players ever that you'd rather have next to Henry & Zico that would allow them to play their own game without worrying about anything else.
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I think the 4-2-2-2 doesn't need a hold up player as such. Needs more of someone who can drag defenders out of position across the breadth of the pitch.

I would always pick Benzema if I had great wide forwards. With a marauding goal scoring No. 10 like Zico, I don't see him as an ideal fit. Not like it would be a disaster as such but someone like Suarez would offer a lot more of what the setup demands for me.
 
GodShaveTheQueen said:
I think the 4-2-2-2 doesn't need a hold up player as such. Needs more of someone who can drag defenders out of position across the breadth of the pitch.
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Which is also something that Benzema is brilliant at? You clearly disagree but I really can’t see your point and I usually do even if we don’t see eye to eye on the matter.
 
Congrats Gio. I don't think the front 4 works but others do so fair play. Also obvious that people are rating current Benzema rather than one from era picked so good drafting tactic.
 
harms said:
Which is also something that Benzema is brilliant at? You clearly disagree but I really can’t see your point and I usually do even if we don’t see eye to eye on the matter.
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I am probably in the wrong as I trust your judgement more than mine when it comes to football but I see a different profile of striker when I see a Zico 4222. Someone who is a mere secondary player and not right in the central scheme of things. Benzema for me is someone who even if never the star of the team till recently was always in the scheme of things aiding build up, demanding the ball etc. Those are a lot of things the central AMs will themselves do, so the team doesn't really need more of that, or else what is the point of having 4 great midfielders on the ball. A pure off the ball No. 9 is what I would prefer whose sole job is to finish off the odd chances and other than that purely concentrate on his off the ball game, something Serginho was in that Brazil team.

Benzema can drag players out of position sure, but limiting him to just that job is not what his profile as a player was.
 
Game @crappycraperson. Thought you drafted well. Hard to envisage a more dangerous left flank with the combination of Carlos' power and Dzajic's trickery. Pity you ended up with a heavyweight like Robbo on the bench, thought you might go for a diamond midfield of Cambiasso - Robson & Neeskens - Zidane, with Dzajic and Muller offering central and wide threats up top.
 
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