David Beckham What's that all about then

[bazalini]

I see Swen's Mum is hinting that Beckham should be played in the centre??

As for me the only thing I can say about Beckham at present is that he is not playing to the standard he played 2 years ago. I would prefer to see Scholes, Giggs, Veron and Keane start before Beckham at present. Now There's a problem.

 

[giggzy]

becks was good near the end of last season, i'd say he had about two good months in total.


he's not looked great thus far..but that could be down to his injury..

 

[uranushk1]

Originally posted by bazalini:
<strong>I see Swen's Mum is hinting that Beckham should be played in the centre??

As for me the only thing I can say about Beckham at present is that he is not playing to the standard he played 2 years ago. I would prefer to see Scholes, Giggs, Veron and Keane start before Beckham at present. Now There's a problem.</strong><hr></blockquote>

He has been great before his injury. Give him a few more games before slag him off.

 

[bazalini]

Originally posted by uranushk1:
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He has been great before his injury. Give him a few more games before slag him off.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I'm not slagging him off - Where have I slagged him off. Jaysus


I think Beckham is potentially one of the best Players around, but we have not seen him live to his potential in recent years.

My point would be is SGE right and play him in the centre, is he lacking confidence or is the players around him not fit to bring the best out of him.

 

[uranushk1]

Originally posted by bazalini:
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I'm not slagging him off - Where have I slagged him off. Jaysus


I think Beckham is potentially one of the best Players around, but we have not seen him live to his potential in recent years.

My point would be is SGE right and play him in the centre, is he lacking confidence or is the players around him not fit to bring the best out of him.</strong><hr></blockquote>

It's different between England and United. Becks is the best midfielder of England so SGE is not wrong to put his best player in CM, so as to maximize his ability and influence. But in United we already have many good CM.

 

[bazalini]

Originally posted by uranushk1:
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It's different between England and United. Becks is the best midfielder of England so SGE is not wrong to put his best player in CM, so as to maximize his ability and influence. But in United we already have many good CM.</strong><hr></blockquote>


Thank You, so you see my point.

So I believe Scholes, Keane, Giggs and Veron should start and allow Beckham that time to rest and get away from it.

I'd say he is close to Burn Out.

 

[becks75]

You`ve got a point, but one thing doesn`t work in your logic. Becks might not be fit or playing very well at the moment, but he still plays much better/effective than Giggs who is in terrible form since some time.

And for becks not playing well since two years. He still managed to score more or less the same amount of goals than the rest of our midfield together last year.
The truth is he was poor for 2 months (october/november after the england game) then rested for another month. The rest of the year he was as usual one of our best players.

 

[bananaman]

Originally posted by bazalini:
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Thank You, so you see my point.

So I believe Scholes, Keane, Giggs and Veron should start and allow Beckham that time to rest and get away from it.

I'd say he is close to Burn Out.</strong><hr></blockquote>
god it pains me to say this but i agree with baz,
becks doesnt look his sharpest yet at all.

what bothers me is that Gary Nev, got "supposodly" the same injury about a week after becks and he's still not back, i think rushing becks back for the world cup had a lot to do with it

 

[bazalini]

Originally posted by bananaman:
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i think rushing becks back for the world cup had a lot to do with it</strong><hr></blockquote>

And Visa Versa - I agree with You.I think Beckhan should not have went to the WC, and allowed his injury heal naturally. Didn't Ferguson feel the same.

 

[bananaman]

Originally posted by bazalini:
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Didn't Ferguson feel the same.</strong><hr></blockquote>

yea he said he shouldnt have flown out to their pre tournament gaff, in deli i think, he took a lot of flack for that in the papers too,
as for all this agreeing with you....new feelings arousing in duffman...

 

[uranushk1]

Originally posted by bananaman:
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yea he said he shouldnt have flown out to their pre tournament gaff, in deli i think, he took a lot of flack for that in the papers too,
as for all this agreeing with you....new feelings arousing in duffman...

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England has rushed him back from injury for the World Cup. This definitely has some negative effect on the current form of Beckham.

 

[Murt]

Originally posted by giggzy:
<strong>becks was good near the end of last season, i'd say he had about two good months in total.
</strong><hr></blockquote>

Agreed. I am baffled by ppl claiming that Beckham was "outstanding" or "breathtaking" last season.
He scored a couple of goals but for 3/4 of the season he was poor.
Hes going to have to do a lot better this season.
Ive allways wanted to see him in the middle and us with a real winger there but our central midfield is strong at the moment so i cant see it happening.

 

[giggzy]

Originally posted by Murt:
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Agreed. I am baffled by ppl claiming that Beckham was "outstanding" or "breathtaking" last season.
He scored a couple of goals but for 3/4 of the season he was poor.
Hes going to have to do a lot better this season.
Ive allways wanted to see him in the middle and us with a real winger there but our central midfield is strong at the moment so i cant see it happening.</strong><hr></blockquote>


and the irony is that giggsy was good until the last two months... betweem nov and feb he was awesome..


yet people considered becks to have a good season... and giggs, visa versa.

 

[Beckham007]

United play a different style of football than they did 2 years ago.
If your saying Becks hasnt been playing at that SAME level you have to say the same for Giggs to. Then I would totally agree.
United has lost all their width in their game, which is a shame because it was our most potent form of attack.

 

[bazalini]

Originally posted by giggzy:
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yet people considered becks to have a good season... and giggs, visa versa.</strong><hr></blockquote>


Your Right. I thought I was losing my senses with what becks said. Giggs was again his brillant best last season, andalong with keane, Ole, RVN, you can be quaranteed you get a good game out of him. If you don't its not for the want of trying.

Giggs is a Man Utd Legion and was one by 1995.

 

[Neil Thomson]

Beckham has a phenomenal second half to the season, and SAF has said that he had a great year other than when he needed resting. He plays an amazing amount of games, so its understandable that he isn't always sharp - but he still scored loads of goals last season, many of which were match winners.

 

[becks75]

quote:
"Agreed. I am baffled by ppl claiming that Beckham was "outstanding" or "breathtaking" last season.
He scored a couple of goals but for 3/4 of the season he was poor."

So everyone is free for his opinion. The one thing, I find funny is: Do you really disagree for once with (your irish god ) Keano, who said only RVN and Becks can be happy with their performance last season.

 

[thumper]

Who else can be totally happy with their season? Seba, Giggs, Scholes, Silvestre, Gaz/Phil Neville (hands up) Forlan, OG, Barthez? Butt didnt get a good enough run and Ole the same. Can you honestly say any of the above performed to their best, if you can you must have been watching a different team.

 

[giggzy]

Originally posted by thumper:
<strong>OG</strong><hr></blockquote>

who he?

 

[bazalini]

You can only have a great season if you play to the standard that is expected of you.

However with so much transition in the team last year, you look to the core of the team to perform. Keane did, Silvestre did, Giggs Did, Barthez did not, Neville Gary did, but only in the centre not on the right, Beckham did not. Whether this was down to his injury, Gary Neville not playing well behind him or just living off his rolex I cannot answer that.

 

[uranushk1]

I can't see why people said Giggs had a better season than Becks. Giggs has turned on for may be around a dozen games in the whole season. He was so talented yet sometimes his performance (especially his horrible finishing and inconsistent crossing) just made me shake my head. On the other hand, Becks has been great at the start of last season. His form dropped a lot after THAT England game against Greece and has been poor between Nov to Jan. Starting from February he returned back to the very top, scoring two really, really amazing magical goals against West Ham and Deport. Finally he finished the season with the highest number of goal scored in recent years. Of course we can't say he is outstanding in whole season. But I would say as a whole his performance was decent, inconsistent, but still acceptable.

 

[edthered]

If anyone in the team needs dropping/a rest then look no further than Giggs - on Saturday he was awful.

 

[Beckham007]

Originally posted by edthered:
<strong>If anyone in the team needs dropping/a rest then look no further than Giggs - on Saturday he was awful.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Agree. Everyone is bagging Becks, Veron etc but I think Giggsy has been no where near his best form lately.