D'Alessandro

dcrompton

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I know we've had threads on this guy before, but I'm watching him play for the first time (on channel 4 for all you insomniacs out there)and the kid's a genius. I haven't been this excited by young raw talent since tAtU ;)
He plays down the left, which would free Giggs to play upfront with Ruud. Forget Ronaldinho, if we have a chance of signing this kid we have to take it
 
I know it is cliched to call players "the new George Best" etc but all this kid needs to be "the new maradona" is grow an afro, put on a few stone & develop a coke habit
 
He's the biz. 22 years old, already captain of River. Says it all really. Has shouldered the responsiblity and become a near perfect player. Can play on either side, although best in the centre, his passing is first rate and he has unbelievable energy. The one snatch is his size. I'd have reservations about him play in the Premiership only because it's a physical league and he'd get pushed off the ball too easily. A shame because he'll do really well for whoever snaps him up. Has to move soon though to further his career, no matter how much he loves River. My heart says him and his team mate Fernando Cavenaghi for about 12 million would be a bargain, but my head says D'Allesandro wouldnt survive in the Prem. Maybe Cavenaghi though - he looks a solid striker.
 
No, we dont get C4 in America. ;)

I've seen plenty of him over the last couple of years to suggest he'll make it big time.

Juventus bound apparently.
 
Juventus will have to opt for one of D'Alessandro/Deco/Ronaldinho this summer I think we might get one of the other 2. With regards to his size though, I really think skill wins out and this guy will absolutely mug Keown. The Premier league may be physical but it's not as cynical as South American or Italian leagues where the best players are targeted and continually fouled or worse
 
Is he at least solidly built and/or steady on his feet? Is he tough and persistant? If so, and if his skills are good enough, his size won't matter.
 
Deco and D'Allesandro are too small. End of. Probably suggests why Juve are more linked with those two while Ronaldinho is getting the United treatment.
 
Originally posted by BusbyReds:
<strong>Is he at least solidly built and/or steady on his feet? Is he tough and persistant? If so, and if his skills are good enough, his size won't matter.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Well he does perservere and has bags of talent. He would get absolutely flattened by a Marcel Desailly though. He is paper-thin and neither tall nor particularly pacy.

I have to be honest, i'm his biggest fan (I've been campaigning for him for ages) and I dont think he'd cut it here. Could be wrong though. See for yourself.

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He does need to fill out a bit but I'd say he could have Kieran Richardson. His balance is excellent seems to have the knack of knowing when to dribble and when to play a pass
 
Originally posted by dcrompton:
<strong>He does need to fill out a bit but I'd say he could have Kieran Richardson. His balance is excellent seems to have the knack of knowing when to dribble and when to play a pass</strong><hr></blockquote>

Er, Richardson is still a midget. Difference being Richy is 18 and has time. D'Allesandro is 22.
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Originally posted by Gazza:
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He would get absolutely flattened by a Marcel Desailly though.<hr></blockquote>

This is true, but watching him tonight he was playmaking from deep, down the flanks,so is more likely to be up against full-backs who generally speaking aren't in the Desailly mould, if Desailly is forced to move wide to nulify his threat then spaces open in the centre for Ruud. As for Deco, he looked good against Celtic who's back 3 (Balde, Valgaren, Mjallby)are a who's who in brick shithouses
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He's too bloody small. He'd get knocked off the ball in a flash. There is a reason why it's Ronny we're after and not Deco or Dally.
 
Soccerage

05/16/2003. River Plate President Jose Maria Aguilar says that the club would welcome a bid from Juventus or Barcelona for playmaker Andres D'Alessandro.

"Juventus have not made an official offer but we are a club who are willing to export our talented players," he said.

"If a massive club, like Barcelona or Juventus, made us an offer for D'Alessandro then we won't tell them to come back in three years time. We wouldn't be able to turn down a substantial offer."
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Originally posted by Gazza:
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Er, Richardson is still a midget. Difference being Richy is 18 and has time. D'Allesandro is 22.</strong><hr></blockquote>

It was meant as a throwaway comment since I was trying to think of other youngsters who need to bulk up, I wasn't actually advocating a fist fight between the two, although that would be fun. Since there is an age difference Kieran get first pop
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See, too small!

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Height: 163
Weight: 54

Compare to Seba

Height: 186
Weight: 80

This guy, however, I would not mind in a United shirt :D

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All this talk is moot, because the fact is we dont need him. He will make a fine player for Juve, but i'm 100% convinced he wont be playing for us - ever.
 
I would think that size is a minor factor in why United would sign Ronaldinho over D'Alessandro. Ronnie is more of link-man/2nd striker, he is aclimatised to European footbal, he is the new face of Nike, offers a chance for Utd PLC to enter the Brazilian market, Argentina already being covered by Veron, Ronnie has World Cup experience & is more proven & Fergie/Utd scouts will no doubt have seen more of Ronie this season & in person. However, I don't see this as an either or situation. Utd will need to find a new left-sided midfielder in the next few years, a notoriously difficult position which, thanks to Giggs, we haven't had to worry about for over a decade. I'd like to get a left-sided player brought in this summer who can slowly be phased in as cover for Giggs. Real Madrid have shown the merits of fielding 2 or more playmakers.
 
It's a pity how some of these super talented players are so small. D'Alessandro, Aimar, Juninho etc. Does anybody have the info to compare these players (height, weight etc.) Another one is Joe Cole, he's a great talent only slightly small. In todays football, the Brazilian and the Argies who have reached the very top are the ones who are well built. Ronaldo, Roberto Carlos, Crespo, Batigol, Redondo, Cafu, Zanetti etc. Ronaldinho is also not that big, anyone got his stats?
 
he's quite solid..

Position: AM Nationality: Brazil
Date of Birth: 21/03/1980 Place of Birth: Porto Alegre, Brazil
Height: 182 cm Weight: 76 kg
Contract Expiry: 06/2006
 
Pablo Aimar

Position: FW Nationality: Argentina
Date of Birth: 03/11/1979
Height: 170 cm Weight: 62 kg
Date Signed: 31/01/2001 Contract Expiry: 06/2008

Joe Cole

Position: AM Nationality: England
Date of Birth: 08/11/1981
Height: 175 cm Weight: 69 kg
Date Signed: 1998 Contract Expiry: 06/2005

Javier Saviola

Position: ST Nationality: Argentina
Date of Birth: 11/11/1981
Height: 168 cm Weight: 60 kg
Date Signed: 06/07/2001 Contract Expiry: 06/2006

Juninho Paulista

Position: AM Nationality: Brazil
Date of Birth: 22/02/1973
Height: 167 cm Weight: 65 kg
Date Signed: 02/08/2002 Contract Expiry: 06/2006

Kaka

Position: MF Nationality: Brazil
Date of Birth: 22/04/1982
Height: 183 cm Weight: 73 kg
 
I watched the last 30 mins of the game and he didnt impress me much. Although the pitch looked awful and the overall standard of play was really annoying to watch. Will have to watch him again sometime.

Would prefer Quaresma/Ronaldinho/Duff/Kewell tbh.
 
shakiraa... do you keep stats of all the players in your PC? just kidding. Apparently D'Alessandro is the smallest amongs all these great players. May be that's why even Real and Barca have not already signed him. Surprisingly, Ronaldinho is actually bigger than he appears, and bigger than even Giggs or Butt.
 
Originally posted by dcrompton:
<strong>I would think that size is a minor factor in why United would sign Ronaldinho over D'Alessandro. Ronnie is more of link-man/2nd striker, he is aclimatised to European footbal, he is the new face of Nike, offers a chance for Utd PLC to enter the Brazilian market, Argentina already being covered by Veron, Ronnie has World Cup experience & is more proven & Fergie/Utd scouts will no doubt have seen more of Ronie this season & in person. However, I don't see this as an either or situation. Utd will need to find a new left-sided midfielder in the next few years, a notoriously difficult position which, thanks to Giggs, we haven't had to worry about for over a decade. I'd like to get a left-sided player brought in this summer who can slowly be phased in as cover for Giggs. Real Madrid have shown the merits of fielding 2 or more playmakers.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Fact is, he's too small for the Prem. Take this from someone who's watched for the best part of a year.
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Having one or two small players who can look after themselves against the big boys is ok for a team, e.g Scholes or Zola.

However, if a club plays too many small skilful players, especially in positions that call for size, then it's difficult to see the team survive in the long run.

That's why Utd has gradually brought in larger players in recent seasons like Silvestre, Ruud, Veron & Rio, & promoted the likes of Wes & O'Shea & they've done very well for themselves & the club.
 
Having one or two small players who can look after themselves against the big boys is ok for a team, e.g Scholes or Zola.

However, if a club plays too many small skilful players, especially in positions that call for size, then it's difficult to see the team survive in the long run.

That's why Utd has gradually brought in larger players in recent seasons like Silvestre, Ruud, Veron & Rio, & promoted the likes of Wes & O'Shea & they've done very well for themselves & the club. I also reckon players like Fletcher will have the physique on top of the skills to also succeed!
 
I saw him on C4 too. Always looked dangerous. But he reminds me of someone...Keiron Richardson? yes! Similar player...1 might cost £20m, 1 is already in the team...hmmm...i think we should see how Keiron develops.
 
Originally posted by Gazza:
<strong>All this talk is moot, because the fact is we dont need him. He will make a fine player for Juve, but i'm 100% convinced he wont be playing for us - ever.</strong><hr></blockquote>

He makes the little Ginger Fella look like a fat giant. The weight difference is the starkest contrast.
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Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
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He makes the little Ginger Fella look like a fat giant. The weight difference is the starkest contrast.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Yep - take a look at the build comparison I made with Veron to explain why Seba has made an impact here. Not sure D'Allesandro could do the same - he makes Veron look like Paddy Vieira.
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Just last week we are linked with "New Pele". This time it's the "New Maradona"? What next? :rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by Candona:
<strong>I saw him on C4 too. Always looked dangerous. But he reminds me of someone...Keiron Richardson? yes! Similar player...1 might cost £20m, 1 is already in the team...hmmm...i think we should see how Keiron develops.</strong><hr></blockquote>

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