Cristiano Ronaldo

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I was just reading facts about our players and i am amazed at how many individual honours Ronaldo has at such a young age. Most players have never achieved what he has in their whole career. He is truely a great player. In my opinion the best player of his generation.

Manchester United
FA Cup
Winner (1): 2003-04
Runner-up (2): 2004-05, 2006-07
League Cup
Winner (1): 2005-06
FA Community Shield
Winner (1): 2007
Premier League
Winner (2): 2006-07, 2007-08
Runner-up (1): 2005-06
UEFA Champions League
Winner (1): 2007-08

International
UEFA European Championship:
Runner-up: 2004
World cup 2006
Semi finalist

Individual
Bravo Award: 2004
UEFA Euro 2004 Team of the Tournament
FIFPro Special Young Player of the Year: 2004-05, 2005-06
Portuguese Footballer of the Year: 2006-07
UEFA Team of the Year: 2003-2004, 2006-07
FIFPro World XI: 2006-07
PFA Young Player of the Year: 2006-07
PFA Players' Player of the Year: 2006-07, 2007-08
PFA Fans' Player of the Year: 2006-07, 2007-08
PFA Premier League Team of the Year: 2005-06, 2006-07, 2007-08
FWA Footballer of the Year: 2006-07, 2007-08
Barclays Player of the Season: 2006-07, 2007-08
Barclays Player of the Month: November-December 2006, January 2008, March 2008
Barclays Golden Boot: 2007-08
Barclays Merit Award: 2007-08
European Golden Shoe: 2007-08
UEFA Club Forward of the Year: 2007-08
UEFA Club Footballer of the Year: 2007-08

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hO_kmx4bR4
 
Best player in the world comfortably.

And if he continues like this we'll soon forget the bad taste in the mouth he gave us this summer.
 
Arguably the best in the world along with Messi.

Not sure he can be unanimously rated as the best.

Comparisons btw him with Messi is similar to comparing Ronaldinho with Fat Ronaldo

Ronaldinho offers a better all round threat whilst fat Ronaldo at his best was easily a more devastating footballer.
 
Our Ronney is the best, has to to be. He's got so many qualitites. I think most people will admit he wasn't maybe at his skillful best, taking players on last season but to score 60+ goals from basicially the wing over the last two season? Exceptional

Sure messi dribbles better, but you need end product and while messis is good, Ronaldos is unbelievable at the minute

Free kicks, headers from corners, running at and beating players, just brilliant
 
Got a good record in finals as well scoring in an FA Cup, League Cup and Champions League final. Ronaldo is now I think verging on being a complete player, as Diego Maradona has pointed out this week after his poor performance for Argentina against Peru Lionel Messi still has a little way to go in terms of learning when to dribble and when to use his teammates but he'll get there.
 
vijay said:
Many of these mickey mouse honours dosent really count much. After Portugal were knocked out in the Euros, Lippi said, Ronaldo at least temporarily isnt good enough to win a big tournament of his own. He was quite right though.
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but Ronaldo was injured and yet still scored and created a few. I mean he was carrying the injury playing for United for a few months, even in the champions league final but he still scored that great header

I think it's harsh. Ronaldo (brazil) was fantastic but he had a quality team around him, similar to Zidane. Ronaldo has great players around him but also average so I don't entirely agree with lippi

But let's not forget in the euro 04 Portugal with Ronaldo got to the final and he was just 18. He had a decent tournament but just a strech to far. Portugal have had a lot of exceptional players down the years that as a team haven't achieved for whatever reason
 
vijay said:
Many of these mickey mouse honours dosent really count much. After Portugal were knocked out in the Euros, Lippi said, Ronaldo at least temporarily isnt good enough to win a big tournament on his own. He was quite right though.
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Who has won a tournament on their own?
 
vijay said:
Zidane and Ronaldo

Brazil and especially France are horribly shite without either of them playing at their best - the difference is obvious.

Off late Ronaldinho almost single handedly turning Barca's fortunes from 2004-2006.
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Rubbish.

Ronaldo did not win Brasil the WC single-handedly. And Ronaldinhio might have been Barca's best player during that period but he was surrounded by WC players.
 
crappycraperson said:
Rubbish.

Ronaldo did not win Brasil the WC single-handedly.
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Rubbish... is the word to describe Brazil in the WCQ 2002 and the subsequent friendlies when they were thrashed from pillair to post by mediocre teams without Ronaldo around. Brazil were lucky to sneak through thanks to a poor draw but the influence of Ronaldo was phenomenal


And Ronaldinhio might have been Barca's best player during that period but he was surrounded by WC players.
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Who were those world class players at Barcelona in 03/04? :confused:
 
He is the player that makes United the best team in the world
 
It shows how far Ronaldo has come if people were expecting him to win Euro 2008 on his own. That becomes a little more difficult when your team can't defend set pieces, have no balance in terms of left footed players and don't have any world class players in the centre of midfield.

If Figo and Rui Costa couldn't do it with the help of each other then Ronaldo is going to have to go some to win Portugal an International trophy on his own.
 
vijay said:
Rubbish... is the word to describe Brazil in the WCQ 2002 and the subsequent friendlies when they were thrashed from pillair to post by mediocre teams. Brazil were lucky to sneak through thanks to a poor draw but the influence of Ronaldo was phenomenal
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True, the Brazil team got a massive lift knowing he was available for selection.

Take nothing away from Rivaldo though, he had a fantastic tournament aswell.
 
vijay said:
Rubbish... is the word to describe Brazil in the WCQ 2002 and the subsequent friendlies when they were thrashed from pillair to post by mediocre teams without Ronaldo around. Brazil were lucky to sneak through thanks to a poor draw but the influence of Ronaldo was phenomenal
Who were those world class players at Barcelona in 03/04? :confused:
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Brazil would have not won without Rivaldo or Ronaldinho with the side. Mind you they didnt face any great teams on the route to that final. An extremely tired England and a sub par Germany aside.
 
vijay said:
Rubbish... is the word to describe Brazil in the WCQ 2002 and the subsequent friendlies when they were thrashed from pillair to post by mediocre teams without Ronaldo around. Brazil were lucky to sneak through thanks to a poor draw but the influence of Ronaldo was phenomenal




Who were those world class players at Barcelona in 03/04? :confused:
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What did Barca win in 2003/4?
Both him and Davids who was on loan that season, helped Barca finish second. It was only when likes of Etoo, Guily arrived and Iniesta made the grade up that they won the league and CL.
 
And Rivaldo and to an extent Ronaldinhio also had a good tournament for Brasil.

Ronaldo was far from phenomenal in that WC. Far cry from his 98 form.
 
crappycraperson said:
And Rivaldo and to an extent Ronaldinhio also had a good tournament for Brasil.

Ronaldo was far from phenomenal in that WC. Far cry from his 98 form.
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He was the best player in the Final in 2002, and a shadow in teh 1998 final. That is all people will remember
 
crappycraperson said:
What did Barca win in 2003/4?
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For a team finishing fifth in the league in 02/03 , it was Ronaldinho who inspired them to finish second, in a strong league that had an inflated Galatico squad along with strong challenges from Valencia and Deportivo.


Both him and Davids who was on loan that season, helped Barca finish second.
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Davids joined Barcelona only during the winter window. The influence of Ronaldinho was obvious prior to that. Davids was more influential in in the development of Xavi, with Davids sitting in the middle, Xavi was able to move up and attack freely and also Davids was already crocked up when Juventus got rid of him.

It was only when likes of Etoo, Guily arrived and Iniesta made the grade up that they won the league and CL.
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True..Barca could've won the CL without any one of the aforementioned players with Xavi and Deco included but without Ronaldinho they would've won feck all.
 
crappycraperson said:
And Rivaldo and to an extent Ronaldinhio also had a good tournament for Brasil.
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Even Kleberson had a great tournament. Why were Brazil shite in the WCQ and other warm up matches even with so many great names around?

Ronaldo was far from phenomenal in that WC. Far cry from his 98 form.
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Ronaldo's form in the 98 WC was a shade poor compared to his club form in 97/98.
 
The Law of Denis said:
Brazil would have not won without Rivaldo or Ronaldinho with the side. Mind you they didnt face any great teams on the route to that final. An extremely tired England and a sub par Germany aside.
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They were lucky with a poor draw, that was my earlier point. But the same Brazilian team minus Ronaldo werent able to cut against much weaker teams prior to the World Cup.
 
vijay said:
Who were those world class players at Barcelona in 03/04? :confused:
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You said 2004-2006:

vijay said:
Off late Ronaldinho almost single handedly turning Barca's fortunes from 2004-2006.
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At that time they had Xavi, Deco, Eto'o and Puyol(in very good form). They also had Giuly who had a record of almost 1 in 2 that season. He even scored more than Ronaldinho that season.

Ronaldinho carried that team from 04/05 onwards as much as Ronaldo did last season.
 
Brwned said:
Ypu said 2004-2005, and at that time they had Xavi, Deco, Eto'o and Puyol(in very good form). They also had Giuly who had a record of almost 1 in 2 that season. He even scored more than Ronaldinho that season.

Ronaldinho carried that team from 04/05 onwards as much as Ronaldo did last season.
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02/03 was a disastrous season for Barcelona.

It was after they signed Ronaldinho they shot up and never looked back.
 
You don't need to win a Euro tournament on your own, when you've scored 42 goals in a season and where you've won your domestic league and the European Cup. No one else this season won a Euro tournament on their own, neither did they score 42 goals which involved winning a CL & domestic league.

The Law of Denis said:
Ronaldo works so well because of the system hes put in at United..
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I disagree. In tough CL games and big matches, we've tended to play a defensive formation and despite negative tactics which wouldn't play to Ronaldo's strength, he still comes out on top because he's well.. Ronaldo.
 
vijay said:
02/03 was a disastrous season for Barcelona.

It was after they signed Ronaldinho they shot up and never looked back.
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They did, he made a huge difference to that team once he signed. But he never carried them to win anything anymore than Ronaldo did last season, he was just the best player in the world and a vital part of that team.

That signing started everything off, but parts were gradually added to make that team as good as it was, Ronaldinho was not the be all and end all of that team. The signing of Eto'o, Deco, Giuly and Marquez along with Puyol's and Xavi's upturn in form all played their part.
 
Brwned said:
They did, he made a huge difference to that team once he signed. But he never carried them to win anything anymore than Ronaldo did last season, he was just the best player in the world and a vital part of that team.

That signing started everything off, but parts were gradually added to make that team as good as it was, Ronaldinho was not the be all and end all of that team. The signing of Eto'o, Deco, Giuly and Marquez along with Puyol's and Xavi's upturn in form all played their part.
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You're missing my point though. Barca would've won the same with any one of those aforementioned players not being signed but not without Ronaldinho.
 
if you get the Bravo Award you know you've made it
 
Messi is more skillfull but all around Ronaldo is more complete.
the only thing Messi is better its dribling.
 
vijay said:
Zidane and Ronaldo

Brazil and especially France are horribly shite without either of them playing at their best - the difference is obvious.

Off late Ronaldinho almost single handedly turning Barca's fortunes from 2004-2006.
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Zidane other than scoring in the final at WC 98 was pretty average the rest of the tournament.
 
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