cricket draft final - Aldo vs Donaldo

Who will win over a 5 match test series


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Hello and welcome to the final of test cricket draft.

Please keep in mind that The voters are being asked to choose a team that will prevail over a five match series on these respective grounds.
  • Eden Gardens, Kolkatta ( Good for spin and batting)
  • Kingsmead, Durban (Good for pace bowling)
  • National Stadium, Karachi (Good for spin bowling)
  • Lords, London (Good for pace bowling and batting)
  • SCG, Sydney (Good for spin, pace and batting )
(The conditions these venues offer matter, not the exact place)

Team Aldo-------------------------------------------------Team Donaldo
S.Gavaskar-------------------------------------------------- M.Hayden
S.Jayasuriya-------------------------------------------------J.Langer
R.Pointing (c)------------------------------------------- ---- R.Dravid
Sachin Tendulkar-------------------------------------------- Brian Lara
M. Crowe---------------------------------------------------- A. De Silva
D. Lehmann------------------------------------------------- Imran Khan
M.Boucher(wk)----------------------------------------------Dujon(wk)
Shane Warne------------------------------------------------D.Vettori
Wasim Akram----------------------------------------------- R.Hadlee
Bishop------------------------------------------------------ M.Marshall
Mcgrath-----------------------------------------------------A.Roberts



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After the nail biting encounter in the series against IL which went to the last session of the last match, the team has had a massive morale boost by coming out as winners from such a tight situation. Moreover, they are delighted to see the Sultan of Swing Wasim Akram join the ranks and take the bowling unit to another level.

I doubt much introduction is needed but anyway, Gavaskar played in a time where all time great fast bowlers reigned supreme, and few men stood tall, one of them was Sunny. Against great attacks like the Windies, Aussies, English, Pakis, etc, Gavaskar not only prized his wicket like very few other but also went on to be an absolute run machine, making records that stood till Sachin came and broke them. 34 centuries and over 10k runs is a testimony to him, but more than anything it is his impeccable technique, resilience, mental toughness that proved to be impossible to break down for the very best of them. At this stage in the draft we have some top bowling attacks, so he is exactly the type of man you need to deal with the new ball.

Partnering him would be Sanath Jayasuriya, who can be the more aggressive one in this pair, take the attack to the opposition and specially use his expertise of the subcontinent conditions to milk the bowlers. Also capable of staying on the pitch for long periods he can be vital in the Kolkata test. Following them is Ponting, one of the best number 3s of all time and the innings would be built around him. As always he will play his natural game while staying on the crease for ages and driving the team to a good score. With the platform set by Sunny and Sanath, he will have the license to play his natural game.

At 4, the master blaster Sachin Tendulkar. What needs to be said about him? If I start writing his records and achievements we would be here all day. From the age of 16 to 40, 24 years of pleasure, entertainment, emotions, worship, you name it. Undivided admiration from his peers. Bradman himself considers him as good as he was, Lara wants his son to be like Sachin, Viv Richards calls him God. Technically, mentally a superhuman. From his century as a teenager at Perth standing tall over to that tragic game against Pakistan in 99 to the destruction of Shane Warne. Across generations and eras there is one man who continued to defy age, defy the pressure of a billion cricket fanatics. The whole batting will revolve around him and Ponting, both capable of staying on the pitch for ages and keep scoring.

Martin Crowe comes in next. a superstar batsman of his generation and a beautiful stroke maker, he will use his world class technique and temperament to continue the work done by the top order. At 5 is the talented Darren Lehmann, didn't play much due to stiff competition but he was a brilliant player of pace and great against short pitched bowling. Also technically good enough to survive on tough conditions.

In bowling, the attack is led by one of the best fast bowlers of all time, Glenn McGrath. Holding the record of most test wickets for a fast bowler, McGrath as we all know showed control and accuracy of line and length like no other, could land the ball on the same spot 6 times in a row and still move it both ways. More often than not he will take early wickets. Partnering him would be the legendary Wasim Akram. Capable of controlling the ball like no one else could, moving it both ways, cunning yorkers, expert in reverse swing with the old ball, and a highly tactically efficient brain to surprise any batsman with the huge variety and ability he possesses, he would be deadly alongside McGrath. This opening pair should get through the opposition's top order a fair few times and that will give me a huge advantage. First change would be Ian Bishop, if not for injuries he would have been in the same bracket as the other WI greats, certainly cut from the same cloth, Bishop generated electric pace and struck fear in the batsmen's eyes. Last, but not the least, is IMO the greatest spinner of all time : Shane Warne. Nothing much needs to be said, could turn the ball on any surface and had the intelligence and tact to get any batsman out. All in all the bowling has balance to it with McGrath being the accurate one who can move it both ways, Akram using his swing, pace and variety to attack the batsman with full license while Bishop providing sheer pace and bounce. Jayasuriya, Sachin and Lehmann can provide spells to give a rest to these bowlers.

Boucher is the wicket keeper in the team who holds the record for most test dismissals, and as a pure wicketkeeper, one of the best in the game.


To win a test match you need to take 20 wickets and I believe my attack is capable of it, being suited to all surfaces and against most type of batsmen. The batting his enough class to make totals good enough for these bowlers to defend. And the captain is a cunning **** who will go to any lengths to get his team the win.


The sub is Wasim Raja, a majestic stroke player and a useful bowler, Raja played the game in great spirit and entertained the crowds. He will come in for Darren Lehmann if the game is being played on a subcontinent track.
 
When I looked at making the team in this draft, I aimed for balance, and a mix of top quality aggressive batsmen and bowlers capable of winning matches and a stability required at the highest level of the sport. After the league rounds, I have acquired Imran Khan, Malcolm Marshall and Brian Lara, and a very sore penis.

Matthew Hayden
Justin Langer
Rahul Dravid
Brian Lara
Aravinda De Silva
Imran Khan
Jeff Dujon
Daniel Vettori
Richard Hadlee
Malcolm Marshall
Andy Roberts

Matthew HAYDEN - One very burly half of probably the greatest opening combo in Test cricket. The sheer number of matches Hayden bludgeoned mercilessly away from the opposition established his credentials as a matchwinner, not just as a slogger at the top of the order. His strength lay in carrying an excellent run of form through the series, scoring at a rapid rate and hitting centuries in succession.
He smashed 30 centuries, hitting 8625 runs overall at 50.73.

Justin LANGER - The biggest mistake any opposition would make was to underestimate Langer as a grafter and blocker and focus their efforts on Hayden. An extremely accomplished strokemaker, Langer hit 23 centuries, with 7697 runs overall at 45 plus.

Rahul Dravid - I was thrilled to get him in this draft because I've wanted him in my team for the past two drafts. To my mind, among the top 3 Test batsmen of our generation, and one of the best No. 3's in this draft. A proven matchwinner, he has 36 centuries across the globe, with an astounding 21 away from home. Average of 52.33 with 13288 runs.

Brian Charles Lara - The sort of batsman you want to write the full name of. A legend of the game, and possibly one of the greatest batsmen of all time. Lara had no discernible weaknesses when in full flow, and his performances propped a largely average Windies sides of the 90s and 00s to memorable victories against the powerhouses of world cricket. When he scored, he went for the monstrous scores and total humiliation of the opposing attacks, a highlight of all my top order batsmen. A genius of the sport, he has enough testimonials from fellow legends to have me bleating on. 34 centuries, 11953 runs.

Aravinda de Silva - One of the greatest Sri Lankan batsmen, a batting mainstay in the 80s and 90s for an evolving Lankan team. His attacking prowess is well known, but he possessed a strong defensive mindset, and played some of the greatest fast bowlers of the time with great skill. 20 centuries at what seems to be a relatively low average of 43, but at a time when such averages were the key signs of a world class player.Averages 48 at Number 5.

Imran Khan - Imran and his swiveling hips add the final awesome flourish to the beauty and pure deadliness of my bowling attack. The sort of bowler who could reverse at will, and mentor to the two W's, Imran was as deadly with the new ball as he was with the old. A very good batsman in his own right, he averaged a phenomenal 50 with the bat between 1982 and 1992, and of course, 19 with the ball.
Averaged 22.81, and took 362 wickets @ a strike rate of 53
Averaged 37.69, scored 3800 runs and made 6 100s

Jeff Dujon - One of the top three keepers in the draft, IMO, and one of the finest of all time. At number 7, he comes in with an average of 32, and 5 Test centuries. And he's not going to drop anything. No chance.

Daniel Vettori - One of the most underrated Test cricketers, I feel.Blessed with a keen cricketing brain, Vettori has a stupendous record given that he plays and has played for a largely mediocre to decent outfit. 360 wickets, with 20 fifers and 3 tenners. On his way to being in the elite few who have 4000 runs and 400 wickets. 6 Test centuries at No. 8. My god.

Richard Hadlee - One of the all time greats and a legend of the sport. Having him and Imran in the same team is the stuff dreams are made of. He would walk into most all time XI's. 431 wickets at a ridiculous 22.2. 36 fifers, 9 tenners. 2 Test centuries.

Malcolm Marshall - The Greatest in the Windies quartet, and lays a claim for the greatest of all time. I certainly think so, at least. From cricinfo,
"Malcolm Marshall slithered to the crease on the angle, pitter-pat feet twinkling as if in dancing shoes. It was reminiscent of a sidewinder on the attack. Purists occasionally criticised his action as too open, but it had method: he maintained mastery of orthodox outswing and inswing from a neutral position without telegraphing his intent. He was lithe, with a wickedly fast arm that elevated him to express status. Only in inches was he lacking - but he even turned that to his advantage with a bouncer as malicious as they come, skidding on to the batsman. Later in his career, he developed a devastating legcutter which he used on dusty pitches. Allied to a massive cricket intelligence, stamina and courage, Marshall had all the toys and he knew how and when to play with them. His strike rate of 46.22 was phenomenal, his average of 20.95 equally so. He may well have been the finest fast bowler of them all.
In 1984, he broke his left thumb while fielding early in the match, but first of all batted one-handed, hitting a boundary and allowing Larry Gomes to complete a century, and then, with his left hand encased in plaster, he shrugged off the pain to take 7 for 53. Four years later, on an Old Trafford wicket prepared specifically for spinners, he adjusted his sights, pitched the ball up, and swung and cut it to such devastating effect that he took 7 for 22. Let that be a lesson, he seemed to be saying, and indeed it was. The whole cricket world mourned his tragically early death, from cancer, at 41."
376 wickets at 20.94, strike rate a staggering 46. My super trump card for all cricket games as a kid.

Andy Roberts - One of the greatest fast bowlers ever. I watched and adored him as a kid because my family was obsessed with the Windians. Superb control of the cricket ball, a phenomenal brain. Roberts, Hadlee, Khan and Marshall. I'd be saying my prayers as an opposition batsman. Average of 25, with a strike rate of 55.

Subs:


Allan Lamb - Tough as nails, technically excellent, 14 Test hundreds, and a whopping 89 first class hundreds against some top quality international bowling. The legendary West Indian fast bowlers were a brand he particularly relished, and he scored 6 out of his 14 hundreds against them. A valuable no.5 batsman to have.

Big Bruce Reid - As tall as Garner, and at his peak, as dangerous. In a career riddled with injuries, big Bruce had a career average of 24 odd, and a strike rate of 55. International class by any standard.

Hansie Cronje - Captain at 24, Hansie led SA to 27 victories and 11 losses in 53 Tests. A fantastic number 6 to have, with an average of 36, and 6 centuries. A career he threw away as he gave way to avarice, and that would remain the lasting regret for anyone who ever thinks of Hansie Cronje and remembers his battle of wits and technique with the best bowlers of the 90s. A handy bowler, he bowled regularly for SA with an average of 29.


This is a team which wouldn't even consider defeat as an option. I'll be going from the jugular from ball one, whether it's Haydos and Langer opening the batting or Marshall, Roberts, Imran and Hadlee bowling. All absolute legends, and a selection of some of the smartest cricketing brains ever.

I'll reserve my judgements and responses on the oppositions stratagem. Personally I feel this team would be nigh on impossible to beat.

All the best.
 
Donaldo, why are you playing with 5 bowlers now? Weren't you in favour of the 4 bowler strategy and felt that the 5th one would be redundant?
 
When I have two of the best all rounders of all time in my team, I think I can well afford to. Besides, it was a bit of a no brainer.
 
Lack of a good spinner is a glaring miss in Donaldo's line up, specially when the opposition has Warne. Will be a huge difference on turning tracks IMO.
 
I'm leaning towards Aldo. Having Warney is a bit plus considering two out of five locations are good spinning conditions. Their batting is more or less equal, but the presence of Warne takes Aldo's bowling to be better than Donaldo.
 
Voted for Aldo.

Very very close but the difference in quality between the spinners is what turned it in Aldo's favour
 
I think my bowling unit is balanced to perform on all conditions. Also, his best batsman is Lara who was constantly troubled by McGrath. That combined with the massive spin weakness he has should go in my favour.

 
Checking the stats and Mcgrath has dismissed Lara 15 times. That's almost as many as Atherton! Warne has also dismissed him 7 times btw
 
Voted for Aldo.

Donaldo's pace bowling is great, but law of diminishing returns there for me. Do not expect the 4th seamer to have as much impact. He'll be forced to bowl his spinner and Vettori is not going to cut it versus Gavaskar, Ponting, Tendulkar.
 
Why is Lehmann mocked? Did reasonably for Australia and got a hell lot of runs in first class cricket. I think he's considered something of a legend for Yorkshire.
 
Why is Lehmann mocked? Did reasonably for Australia and got a hell lot of runs in first class cricket. I think he's considered something of a legend for Yorkshire.

27 tests and less than 2,000 runs. Not a patch on some of the names in the draft. You can't really judge a person as good on that.

Its weird. Dilshan was slammed as a non entity whilst Lehmann is decent? How?

Anywho, I'll do this after the draft. Don't want to argue for either manager.
 
Yeah weird to see perfectly decent players like Herath and Lehmann mocked in this draft.
 
27 tests and less than 2,000 runs. Not a patch on some of the names in the draft. You can't really judge a person as good on that.

Its weird. Dilshan was slammed as a non entity whilst Lehmann is decent? How?

Anywho, I'll do this after the draft. Don't want to argue for either manager.

Because Lehmann had to compete in one of the greatest batting teams ever and Dilshan is a flat track bully who plays for Sri Lanka, who are just an okay side.

Lehmann's first class record is astounding.
 
Have to go with Donaldo here.. He bats all the way to 9 (and Marshall at 10 is no mug!), and his quicks shit all over Aldo's. Marshall, Roberts, Imran and Hadlee versus Mcgrath, Bishop and Akram is a bigger mismatch (mainly due to Bishop and Aldo having one more quick) than Warne vs Vettorri (and I think Vettorri is genuine garbage!!).

The batting is about equal, with Donaldo's depth shading it.

I do believe this may be the first time I voted for Donaldo in a draft.
 
Because Lehmann had to compete in one of the greatest batting teams ever and Dilshan is a flat track bully who plays for Sri Lanka, who are just an okay side.

Lehmann's first class record is astounding.

So is Mark Ramprakash's. On the flipside, I was told Gooch is 2 tiers off of the best openers despite being the highest scorer in first class ever! Go compute.

So what if he had to compete in one of best teams ever? Did he consistently get in? No. Did he prove himself over a longer period of time in international tests? No. Its all good to say that he may have proven himself if he had a chance. My aunt may have had balls and all that
 
So is Mark Ramprakash's. On the flipside, I was told Gooch is 2 tiers off of the best openers despite being the highest scorer in first class ever! Go compute.

So what if he had to compete in one of best teams ever? Did he consistently get in? No. Did he prove himself over a longer period of time in international tests? No. Its all good to say that he may have proven himself if he had a chance. My aunt may have had balls and all that



 
zing sort of summed it up. His pace attack is an overkill and the 4th pacer would be redundant specially in tracks which are not offering much movement for pace bowlers and where you need to exploit the spin friendly conditions for which he has Vettori!

You need a quality spinner to take 20 wickets in all conditions, simple as that. More so against the type of batsmen I have. Gavaskar can play out the new ball attack a lot of times.

He has some great individual names, sure, but the bowling attack lacks balance.
 
Facing off against one of the world's quickest bowlers without an helmet at the age of 16. What a man.
 
Have to go with Donaldo here.. He bats all the way to 9 (and Marshall at 10 is no mug!), and his quicks shit all over Aldo's. Marshall, Roberts, Imran and Hadlee versus Mcgrath, Bishop and Akram is a bigger mismatch (mainly due to Bishop and Aldo having one more quick) than Warne vs Vettorri (and I think Vettorri is genuine garbage!!).

The batting is about equal, with Donaldo's depth shading it.

I do believe this may be the first time I voted for Donaldo in a draft.

But I still have two all time great quicks and one who was quality at his peak to do well in pace friendly conditions and he has no one to take advantage of spin friendly pitches.

I don't agree that you can count the number of bowlers to say which one is stronger, you need to have all facets of attack to do well in all conditions which I have and he doesn't.
 
:lol: I like how you're bigging up the spin aspect and completely forgetting Marshall who was if anything, even deadlier on the slow low pitches. I'mran was raised on the slow turning tracks, has a mastery of the old ball, and Hadlee and Roberts....I'm feeling sorry for your batsmen even writing all this.
 
The biggest problem you have right now, Aldo, is that while bigging up your 'added facet', you're conveniently forgetting you bat till Boucher. How the hell are you supposed to win a Test match against a team like mine which goes down all the way till 9/10 with an order that shudders to a halt at 7?
 
Warne is at 8. And I wouldn't rate his or the jammy Akram's chances against any of my bowlers.
 
You need a quality spinner to take 20 wickets in all conditions, simple as that.


The Windies quartet doesn't seem to do any laughing poses, else I would post that picture here.

You're talking about possibly 4 of the best bowlers of ALL TIME in my team. That attack will blow you away, quality batsmen or not. It's about the fine margins, and you lose out whichever way I look at it.
 
Checking the stats and Mcgrath has dismissed Lara 15 times. That's almost as many as Atherton! Warne has also dismissed him 7 times btw

Imran's dismissed Sunny days 11 times in 18 matches. Marshall did so 8 times in 14 games. Hadlee 4 in 8. Roberts 30% of the time. What's the point?

The best bowlers will get the best batsmen out.
 
The Windies quartet doesn't seem to do any laughing poses, else I would post that picture here.

You're talking about possibly 4 of the best bowlers of ALL TIME in my team. That attack will blow you away, quality batsmen or not. It's about the fine margins, and you lose out whichever way I look at it.

As I said, when the conditions are not offering much you need variety not more of the same.

It is pretty obvious.
 
Imran's dismissed Sunny days 11 times in 18 matches. Marshall did so 8 times in 14 games. Hadlee 4 in 8. Roberts 30% of the time. What's the point?

The best bowlers will get the best batsmen out.

I haven't watched those players live but anyone who watched cricket in the 90s would tell you that McGrath usually got the better of Lara.
 
Jayasuriya, Lehmann and to an extent... Bishop stick out as weaknesses in Aldo's side. Jaysuriya against these quicks means he is effectively starting one down - exposing Ponting early.

In Donaldo's side, only Vettorri sticks out as out of his depth.