Cost of current squads

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Do these figures seem accurate?

Pinched it from here, so no idea how reliable the source is. Apparently posted before last January's window too, so United's spending will have been bumped up massively since then. Even more so once DiMaria is confirmed.

If anyone can be arsed (and God knows, I can't) would be interesting to do an update including transfers from the current window.

EDIT: some sterling work from @Damien means we now have updated figures for United, Chelsea, City and Liverpool.

Damien said:
As it stands our squad cost €432.6M. Di Maria will take it over the €500M mark.
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Damien said:
City's is €440.8M

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Damien said:
Liverpool's is €314.52M
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Damien said:
Chelsea: €428.15M
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I hope not, as we'll be first when this di Maria deal is concluded.

EDIT: The disparity between the top six in the Premier League to the rest is astonishing. Massive credit to Everton.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Not one reply? You lazy bar-stewards.

At the very least, it gives an interesting slant on the whole "tight-fisted Glazers" debate.
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The sheer monopoly of Real and Barca in La Liga is also amazing.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Not one reply? You lazy bar-stewards.

At the very least, it gives an interesting slant on the whole "tight-fisted Glazers" debate.
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It's just PR apparently, they're trying to trick us into thinking they're spending money, or something.

Tight fisted owners isn't our problem, it's misspent funds on the wrong players; see Fellaini, Young etc.
 
We've spent a lot over the last 3 transfer windows. Unquestionably. Weather our recent splurge will actually benefit us is the question.
 
Rado_N said:
It's just PR apparently, they're trying to trick us into thinking they're spending money, or something.

Tight fisted owners isn't our problem, it's misspent funds on the wrong players; see Fellaini, Young etc.
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And now we are having to spend even more to correct these 'mistakes'.
Spending large fees on the like of Di Maria and Mata dont bother me, every club does this. What does get me is spending huge (in context) fees on average players. Not every top club does that.
City for example spent big on James Milner but he has never really been first choice for City, hes always been there to do a job when it needs to be done. City fans wont care that he cost £24m, they'll just look at the 2 titles he has helped them win.
 
Shocking to see we've spent more than PSG. I can't believe this is true. I'm going to calculate our squad cost now.
 
Bubz27 said:
And now we are having to spend even more to correct these 'mistakes'.
Spending large fees on the like of Di Maria and Mata dont bother me, every club does this. What does get me is spending huge (in context) fees on average players. Not every top club does that.
City for example spent big on James Milner but he has never really been first choice for City, hes always been there to do a job when it needs to be done. City fans wont care that he cost £24m, they'll just look at the 2 titles he has helped them win.
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And Milner is a far better player than Ashley Young or Fellaini, that's why he could be a reliable, consistent squad player.
 
I_live_cement said:
These comparisons never include wages for some reason.
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Aye, wages are often ignored but far more relevant when comparing what clubs spend.

Last time I looked at City's accounts their wage bill was something like 120% of their turnover.
 
Jagga7 said:
Oh dear. I used this site for transfers paid http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.../manchester-united-fc-player-transfer-6266878

I excluded the players who are not in the first team anymore and added 16mill for Rojo and 60m for Di Maria and the figure comes to £410.3 million. So i can safely conclude we have been absolutely awful at signing players in recent history.
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First team? Or first team squad? I think the figures come from adding up the combined transfer fees we have spent on every member of our first team squad.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Is that adding recent purchases to the figure in the OP?

Or did you re-calculate the whole squad yourself?
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Recalculated whole squad via transfermarkt (using the Euro figures). Problem is inflation and stuff makes it a pain. Likes of Anderson and Nani would have been signed for a lot of Euros but at the time the Pound was in a great position to it. Nani isn't included in the figures as he's out on loan, but if he was included it'd be even worse.

City's is €440.8M

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Rado_N said:
Aye, wages are often ignored but far more relevant when comparing what clubs spend.

Last time I looked at City's accounts their wage bill was something like 120% of their turnover.
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Isn't that mainly down to their relatively low turnover?

I'm sure I read/saw somewhere that our wage bill is right up there with all the richest clubs around.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Isn't that mainly down to their relatively low turnover?

I'm sure I read/saw somewhere that our wage bill is right up there with all the richest clubs around.
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Yea, but if the concern is around responsible spending then looking at wages as a % to turnover is the only way to do it.

iirc we have been fairly consistently around 50% ish of our turnover, although you're right in saying in pure monetary terms we rank highly.
 
Damien said:
Recalculated whole squad via transfermarkt (using the Euro figures). Problem is inflation and stuff makes it a pain. Likes of Anderson and Nani would have been signed for a lot of Euros but at the time the Pound was in a great position to it. Nani isn't included in the figures as he's out on loan, but if he was included it'd be even worse.

City's is €440.8M

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:lol: should have know you wouldn't cut any corners!

Feck me. There's over half a billion euros worth of talent in our squad.

Take out Di Maria and our squad cost exactly the same amount as City's current squad to assemble (and presumably a lot more than Chelsea, Arsenal or Liverpool's?) . That's equal parts amazing and depressing.

If ever anyone at the club needed evidence that the DoF model is the way to go....
 
I_live_cement said:
These comparisons never include wages for some reason.
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They do not have to as it is not about the running costs for the squad but about what the acquisition of the players cost. Bayern and Barca have a homegrown spine - Athletico and Dortmund work with special systems and with cheap player imports and are sucessful with it.
 
AngeloHenriquez said:
PSG is the one that stands out for me, as well as us and Spurs for over-spending....
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The figure given for Spurs (£250m) is far from accurate. I'm not in front of right PC at the moment so I can't give the right figure, but from memory it's slightly less than £200m
 
Rado_N said:
Yea, but if the concern is around responsible spending then looking at wages as a % to turnover is the only way to do it.

iirc we have been fairly consistently around 50% ish of our turnover, although you're right in saying in pure monetary terms we rank highly.
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I'm not really concerned about responsible spending, just fascinated (and appalled) to see how much more money we have spent assembling our current squad than Chelsea, City, Bayern, Barca and Juventus have spent assembling theirs. That's a bit of a game-change in all the bickering between different fans about "buying success"

Not sure whether our academy or our scouts have dropped the ball (probably both?) but if I'm the Glazers and someone shows me that spreadsheet, then heads would fecking roll.
 
GlastonSpur said:
The figure given for Spurs (£250m) is far from accurate. I'm not in front of right PC at the moment so I can't give the right figure, but from memory it's slightly less than £200m
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Obviously a lot better, but when you think of trophies won compares with Everton and their costs....
 
Pogue Mahone said:
I'm not really concerned about responsible spending, just fascinated (and appalled) to see how much more money we have spent assembling our current squad than Chelsea, City, Bayern, Barca and Juventus have spent on their current squads. That's a bit of a game-change in all the bickering between different fans about "buying success"
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Depends on your outlook I guess.

My issue with Chelsea and (moreso) City and their spending has not purely been down to the quantity, it's been more to do with the source. We're spending money we've generated ourselves, not money handed to us by some billionaire benefactor.
 
I'd say our transfers date back longer than lots of the teams though. Players like Rooney and Anderson (€30m, dear god) who were signed yonks ago.

Still, a very costly squad, for what it is.
 
Massive Spanner said:
I'd say our transfers date back longer than lots of the teams though. Players like Rooney and Anderson (€30m, dear god) who were signed yonks ago.

Still, a very costly squad, for what it is.
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This is also true - how many members of PSG's squad, for example, were signed more than a few years ago?

Also - if this is the cost of the full squad, do we have a bigger squad than others?
 
Glanville95 said:
I hope not, as we'll be first when this di Maria deal is concluded.

EDIT: The disparity between the top six in the Premier League to the rest is astonishing. Massive credit to Everton.
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Nowhere near as bad as in other countries though. Look at Spain. There are clubs competing with squads 200 times cheaper than Real Madrid's.
 
Rado_N said:
Depends on your outlook I guess.

My issue with Chelsea and (moreso) City and their spending has not purely been down to the quantity, it's been more to do with the source. We're spending money we've generated ourselves, not money handed to us by some billionaire benefactor.
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Oh completely. That issue doesn't go away.

It's just that I'd previously assumed they were using their ill-gotten gains to consistently out-spend us, by a huge margin. Which was comforting, in a way. Looks like I can no longer soften the pain of another City league title using this logic.

As I said above, I would be fecking livid if I was the Glazers. And they're still being told they need to spunk another 50-80 million on central defence and midfield! Fair play to them for continuing to write the cheques. Would be well within their rights to put a stop to all this lunacy, hire a DoF and spend a season or two re-grouping. Basically what Abramovic did a few years back when he stopped investing in their squad for a while.

Thank feck they're going all in or things really would get ugly on here...
 
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