Chappell and Dravid feel the heat

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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/cricket/article1568340.ece

Chappell and Dravid feel the heat as fans take to streets

Dramatic scenes of national mourning were played out across India at the weekend by cricket fans distraught and angry at the performance of their team in the World Cup.

After the 69-run defeat by Sri Lanka on Friday, marking India’s worst World Cup campaign in 28 years and their subsequent exit from the tournament, fans took to the streets burning effigies of the multi-millionaire players they once worshipped.

Posters of Sachin Tendulkar, the greatest batsman of his generation but one fast falling from his pedestal as the premier national hero, were defaced and security was beefed up at his Bombay residence, where fans waved placards reading “Down with Sachin Tendulkar” and “Indian cricket team, shame on you”.

Extra guards were also placed outside the homes of Harbhajan Singh, Sourav Ganguly, Mahendra Dhoni and Rahul Dravid, who may now lose the captaincy. Police said fans had thrown stones at Zaheer Khan’s restaurant in Poona in a recurrence of the vandalism that followed a five-wicket upset loss to Bangladesh on March 17.

Lookalikes of the players, previously cheered by fans at promotional events, have gone into hiding. Hotels and restaurants hastily withdrew from the menu dishes and drinks named after players such as the Dhoni Sixer and Dravid the Dependable.

In Indore, fans marched in a mock funeral for Indian cricket and there were reports of at least two deaths. Police said Mahadeb Sarkar, a 25-year-old farmer in West Bengal, hung himself after India’s loss to Sri Lanka and an argument with his wife.

She also tried to kill herself but was saved when the rope snapped. In Hyderabad, a 28-year-old man died of a heart attack after watching the match at his home.

The extreme reactions underline the passion with which India follows cricket and the outrage felt by supporters that a team ranked as the second favourites at the outset failed even to make the Super Eights stage of the tournament.

“Shocked India erupts in Anger” was the front-page headline in yesterday’s Hindustan Times. A poll carried out by the Delhi-based newspaper found 62 per cent of people agreeing that Dravid should be dismissed and 66 per cent calling for Greg Chappell to lose his job as head coach.

News channels conducted a rolling inquest into the failure, while advertisers and sponsors counted the cost of India’s premature exit.

Audiences in cricket’s biggest television market have dropped by nearly 40 per cent and analysts expect advertisers to try to renegotiate expensive broadcast deals that were predicated on India playing nine matches rather than three. Pepsi, one of the ICC’s four global sponsors, has decided to pull its India campaign altogether.

That India’s cricketers are so well paid has only served to heighten the national anger. Most players earn at least $1 million (about £510,000) a year from endorsements alone and many fans feel the team were too focused on commercial gain.

The Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) has also come in for criticism after sealing the most lucrative TV rights deal in world cricket last year but failing to nurture the next generation of players.

On top of a $1 billion rights deal, the BCCI sold the team’s kit sponsorship to Nike for $135.6 million, eclipsing the sum the US sports goods company pays annually to Manchester United, Juventus or the Brazil football team.

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What the feck is all that about?
 
This is some fecked up shit, it's only a game and there is always the next one to look forward too, the Indians are taking it too hard.
 
feck's sake lads, it's only one-day cricket, not even the real thing!

Having said that, these articles are so sensationalist. "A guy had a heart attack watching the game". Ooh, in a nation of a billion, what an amazing statistic. 62% want Chappel out - incredible wave of anger!
 
All the things reported in the article are shamefully true.........:mad:
 
stoopid kirket fans :mad:

its an old routine .. everyone knows whats gonna happen next .. we'll go play bangladesh . win there and the hoo haa india will start again ..
thers always the next world cup ;)
 
the question the BCCI is asking itself now is "Should we sack the coach and change the captain?"personally i think we shouldn't do both.Dravid is the only man of captaincy status in the team right now(ganguly definitely can't be captain and tendulkar doesn't seem the right choice)
 
stoopid kirket fans :mad:

its an old routine .. everyone knows whats gonna happen next .. we'll go play bangladesh . win there and the hoo haa india will start again ..
thers always the next world cup ;)

:lol: so true....
 
There's talk of Sachin being the next captain. What the feck?
 
It was funny the whole mock funeral. They had people covered with white cloth lying down on the floor as if they were dead bodies, with the players names written on them with others around mourning. Thats as spastic as it gets.

And Sachin should be made captain only if theres a clause in his contract that he must stop batting like a girl.
 
At least they aren't making him retire. I was pretty sure they would do it this time.
They never will. Somewhere inside i do feel he should. He's a step below the batsman he once was. He can still do the job but its the mental side where he has deteriorated. Earlier he loved the big stage, he loved playing the best teams and making it his show. Now he looks frightened of the same situations he used to tower over. Personally i feel he's just dragging his name through the mud. People who know the game will remember his greatness but unless he turns things around this post injuries phase of his career will just leave an image of mortality in the minds of the public when it comes to the great man.

IMO if he has to continue he has to start batting freely and aggressively. Every time i see him to that he looks good.
 
Well, I am one of those "Sachin is God" fans, but I think it's time he bid farewell to ODIs. There is no point going on anymore. Actually Dravid and Ganguly should be dropped as well. All 3 won't be there in the next WC and youngsters won't get a chance if they are still in the team, we will struggle but it's not like we are setting the world on fire with 3 of them in the team.
 
All this changing in the batting order's affected him IMO.The presence of Sehwag, Dhoni and Uthappa in one team meant he had to curb his attacking game and not give away his wicket cheaply.

From where I'm looking, after having watched him for 15 years, it just seems that there's never been a day in Tests or ODI's(except for that 241 in Sydney which is still in my mind for the sheer hardwork he had to put in to it), when he's been successful when he's not played freely and how he 'used' to.The coming in at No.4 and settling down and stabilising the innings is not his game, he's a natural opener, a natural attacker.Dravid fecked up there big time with him this time.

He still has a lot to give I feel...I actually thought he'd be around till 2011...Shame to see him plummet to such depths in the publics eyes.He was god at one time for all of us growing up and watching him.
 
People forget that he has had more than 17 years in WC cricket now, just because he started at 15 doesn't mean he is going to retire like everybody else at 35-36.
 
I agree. Give him and Ganguly one last chance. let them open and tell them to play freely. Esp. Ganguly. Threaten that cnut that if he plays selfishly he'll be dropped.

I also think that Yuvraj needs to come up the order a little. Our batting will revolve around him in a couple of years and it's time he stepped up and took the no.3 position.

And I'm pretty fed up with Dhoni. Too unreliable. Karthik looks a better batsman and if he's a better keeper as well he should get a chance to prove himself.
 
His body's held out for a lot more than it probably should have...he only started getting major injuries around end of 2004...I see no reason why he shouldn't play for some time more.

The hunger's not gone...you can see that when he's bowling...very few in the team who are that committed to the cause.Shame he doesn't fowllow up with the bat.;)
 
I was hoping Ganguly and Tendulkar would open this time around....what a sight it was to see them bat in full flow.Brilliant batsmen, both of them....complement each other perfectly.

Get Dhoni out Get Karthik in.

Get Uthappa out Get Kaif in.

Push Dravid to No.3.Push Yuvraj to 4.Kaif at 5.
 
I agree. Give him and Ganguly one last chance. let them open and tell them to play freely. Esp. Ganguly. Threaten that cnut that if he plays selfishly he'll be dropped.

I also think that Yuvraj needs to come up the order a little. Our batting will revolve around him in a couple of years and it's time he stepped up and took the no.3 position.

And I'm pretty fed up with Dhoni. Too unreliable. Karthik looks a better batsman and if he's a better keeper as well he should get a chance to prove himself.
I hope they make Yuvi captain right now....
 
I was hoping Ganguly and Tendulkar would open this time around....what a sight it was to see them bat in full flow.Brilliant batsmen, both of them....complement each other perfectly.

Get Dhoni out Get Karthik in.

Get Uthappa out Get Kaif in.

Push Dravid to No.3.Push Yuvraj to 4.Kaif at 5.

Giving Kaif another chance now is a good idea. Getting dropped must have hurt and he'll be itching to prove himself again.
 
I hope they make Yuvi captain right now....

Think he needs more time but he's the only one in the time I can see taking over from Dravid.


Anyway, our bowling issues our far more serious. We have to wake up to the fact that we don't have a single quality spinner atm. Bhajji has gone from bad to worse.

And I wish that our fecking seamers would be a little more imaginative. every time they get hit they get so fecking meek. Why can't they try different things? Why can't they think of different things besides the in swinging delivery and the slower one. I can't remember the last time I saw our bowlers try going round the stumps to get a better line.
 
Its a batsmans game mehro....unfortunately ours turned out to fecking shit...
 
Disagree, I think he will excel as a captain.

Bhajji is finished, he has not had one spell of note in last 2 years, pathetic. We face a situation like WI, after having the luxury of choosing from many spinners, we are struggling to find even descent ones now. And I have made peace with the fact that we will never produce a WC fast bowler ever.
 
Personally this loss is bigger than just shuffling the batting order around. For me Dravid isnt up to scratch as a captain. The youngsters dont really relate to him and he doesnt have the balls to put anyone in his place. Ganguly did, he and Sreenath used to argue, he made Steve Waugh wait at the toss just to let him know he was in India. Dravid cant stay as captain for me.

Sachin has to play aggressively, rarely in his whole career has he scratched around and made big scores, its just not him. And he likes playing the new ball, getting a few boundaries away, Sachin when past 20 is like other batsman past 50. Sachin would be the dark horse for captaincy, maybe it would just spur him on, and the rest would follow.

We need to get the same fire and passion in our side that we had two years back. That comes through the captain and coach, and the age of the team. We need Pathan to fulfill his potential if we are to get anywhere. Dhoni needs a kick in his nuts, we need to work on the youngsters coming through. Our process of developing them seems to be doing crap. Then theres a need for a bowing coach or 3. Why do all our pacers get slower and slower? Munaf was supposed to bowl at 90+, he did on his debut and has never since. Out with Agarkar. Zaheer's gotten slower, Pathans dropped about 10 miles per hr in pace from when he was 20.
 
Why was Kaif dropped? He used to be a reliable middle order batsmen and was one of those players excellent in the field.

What's up with Pathan? Didn't he win the ICC emerging player award and all?
 
Why was Kaif dropped? He used to be a reliable middle order batsmen and was one of those players excellent in the field.

What's up with Pathan? Didn't he win the ICC emerging player award and all?

kaif didn't do anything with the bat for a long time and was rightly dropped. Pathan's become a better batsman than a bowler recently. Hopefully they'll both come back much better.
 
Why was Kaif dropped? He used to be a reliable middle order batsmen and was one of those players excellent in the field.

What's up with Pathan? Didn't he win the ICC emerging player award and all?
Kaif is a strange one. He'l look a quality player for a series and then do nothing for another two.

I'm a big Pathan fan. Was on his way to being amongst the best allrounders in the world for years to come, and he did win that award. Was our main bowler, almost always took wickets with the new ball and was dangerous with the bat lower down. Started 2006 also really well but then mid way through just lost form and pace. Chappel publicly said he was lacking confidence and ever since hes been in and out and hasnt looked the same. Really crutial for us that we get him back to his best.