Challenge: Moyes and Pep

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I'll admit this is a bit random but it'll be interesting to see how both Moyes and Pep will get on in their respective new posts starting next season.

Both managers are going to two of the best and most well run clubs in world football. They are both walking into confident winning teams who are coming off the back of successful campaigns.

For some strange reason I've been wondering for a while now, how Pep must be feeling taking on that Bayern Munich team who stormed the Bundesliga leaving last seasons champions trailing in their wake (like us), but they also still have an odds on chance of becoming treble winners. They're not defensively frail, haven't been conceding many goals, have no problems scoring goals and they play good, attacking energetic football pressing high up the pitch but keeping their shape. How the heck does Pep improve on that?

Moyes' conundrum is a little bit different in that here, we probably have a little bit more room for improvement. The midfield could do with bulking up (I promise this isn't going to turn into another thread moaning about the midfield!), and we could have had better showings in all of the cups tbh. He is however taking over from the best Manager there ever was (and probably ever will be) and that must be an equally daunting task; being entrusted with the truly great Sir Alex Ferguson's legacy.

I'd imagine Pep would currently be the most confident of the two. Bayern Munich have just splashed out on one of the best young players in Götze to improve an already brilliant squad, a real statement of intent that they aren't resting on their laurels and have weakened their biggest domestic rivals in the process. Arguably it'd be tough for him to cock it up really, and we shouldn't forget he also has the experience of winning domestic leagues, domestic cups and European cups to draw on. Bayern play a very different brand of football to Barcelona though and it will be interesting to see what tactical/stylistic direction he chooses to go in. If successful there, will he be discredited again for taking on a great team which he didn't necessarily build with great players who "anyone could manage" as people often said about his Barcelona?

Moyes on the other hand has an alleged (not yet confirmed) shambles to sort out if Rooney, arguably our best (if not one of our best) players is angling for a transfer. It's all conjecture and speculation but yesterday SSN added that there was rumour of a big clear out. He doesn't have the experience of dealing with big superstar players or of winning things yet nothing less will be expected of him right from the off. This club is expected to win things and that is the standard Moyes has to reach.

How do people think both will fare and what will their biggest problems be? Who will last longer and is likely to be more successful in the next few years?
 
Moyes has a bit more margin for error. Anything less than a title win for Bayern would be a bit of a disaster.
 
Surely Bayern's biggest threat is going to be significantly weakened over the summer though. Moyes'ss'ss (how do you write that?) will be strengthened.
 
Because of the reputation Pep is going there with?

Not just that, they have by arguably the best team in Europe, which will only get stronger (and weaken their biggest rivals as a result), and they won't have to contend with a City and Chelsea likely to fork out massive money this Summer.
 
Peps job is a piece of piss really.

Is it though? If they win the treble this season, Peps first season is always likely to be inferior. Can he improve them? Heynckes is bowing out with the bar set unbelievably high.
 
Had a similar idea to the thread.
Bayern are going for a major shift in playing style if Pep's appointment is any indication. We have gone with a manager who is more or less is going to provide continuity in the short term. Both the teams can draw parallels in the kind of following in their respective countries. So, it's interesting how these two approaches go about.
 
Had a similar idea to the thread.
Bayern are going for a major shift in playing style if Pep's appointment is any indication. We have gone with a manager who is more or less is going to provide continuity in the short term. Both the teams can draw parallels in the kind of following in their respective countries. So, it's interesting how these two approaches go about.

Yeah I don't think Pep's role there is as smooth sailing as people think, and one could argue that it's actually Barça who need him more than Bayern right now.

You say he'll shift the playing style but surely it'd be foolish to try to get them to tiki-taka? The way they're playing right now is could pose teams huge problems. They don't need to dominate possession to dominate the game which is anti-Barcelona in a way.

I see the parallels too I just don't see each club staying on its trajectory.
 
A very mediocre manager could inherit that Bayern squad (+Gotze already, and possibly further additions) and would be expected to easily win the league and cruise into the later stages of the CL.

Guardiola must be laughing his head off at how lucky he is.
 
Yeah I don't think Pep's role there is as smooth sailing as people think, and one could argue that it's actually Barça who need him more than Bayern right now.

You say he'll shift the playing style but surely it'd be foolish to try to get them to tiki-taka? The way they're playing right now is could pose teams huge problems. They don't need to dominate possession to dominate the game which is anti-Barcelona in a way.

I see the parallels too I just don't see each club staying on its trajectory.
I don't feel that Bayern are going to play a Barca system. Considering how well they are doing, it would be a real shame too. However, I think with the Pep's signing of Götze, there is a possibility that it will be a change from now. Each manager has his challenges but a very contrasting one in relation to each other.
 
Surely Bayern's biggest threat is going to be significantly weakened over the summer though..

Aye, I'm pretty sure we'd piss the league if Moyes was able to go out and sign Yaya and Aguero.