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Told you 2/3 months ago Beckham would make a good captain.Not many agreed with me.Lets hope he keeps it.
Originally posted by $ukhjit:
<strong> It needs to be someone who plays their heart out for United!</strong><hr></blockquote>
Are you saying Beckham doesn't?
Originally posted by $ukhjit:
<strong>Ryan Giggs or Gary Neville. It needs to be someone who plays their heart out for United!</strong><hr></blockquote>
What do u mean by 'Ryan Giggs or Gary Neville'???
Originally posted by steven07968:
<strong>Why even bring this up?
Keane is our captain and no one else deserves it othen than Keane!</strong><hr></blockquote>
There is only one KEANE! <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" />
Originally posted by Neil Thomson:
<strong>There's a news article on this site where O'Shea gave a hint that Beckham might retain the Captaincy - so its topical and possible.</strong><hr></blockquote>
No doubt Fergie consulted O'Shea. It's nonsence,
Originally posted by Huiting:
<strong>I don't even see the hint in what O'Shea said. Hmmm. But certainly Keane would still be the captain this season! After Keane though, maybe it would first be Becks, then Rio. Becks does give his heart out for United, if it isn't obvious enough.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I think if anything he tries a bit too hard??? Theres only 1 KEANO <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" /> Back soon!!!
Originally posted by Ever hopefull:
<strong>What about Nicky Butt?
he's playing regulary now, and was before Keane's injury. He has a fantastic fighting spirit and i reckon the leadership qualities are there given the chance to show them.
Although i do reckon Becks or Rio are the likely successors to Keane</strong><hr></blockquote>
Too thick I'm afraid
Originally posted by oscar74:
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Too thick I'm afraid</strong><hr></blockquote>
What does that have to do with it?
Originally posted by $ukhjit:
<strong>Ryan Giggs or Gary Neville. It needs to be someone who plays their heart out for United!</strong><hr></blockquote>This is a very disturbing statement. Shite how am I gonna sleep tonight?
Originally posted by mick77:
<strong>Phil Neville
You know it makes sense!
Isn't it pleasing that a number of players have legitimate claims to the captaincy?
I think Becks will retain the capaincy, if only for continuity and stability. He's done ok.
I'd still prefer Gary Neville though, or even Rio. They are more vocal and organise players around them better. Becks is a lead-by-example captain, but if he has a stinker...</strong><hr></blockquote>
I wonder how can GN organize and inspire the whole team when he is on RB position. Rio can succeed Becks as captain in the future though.
Originally posted by uranushk1:
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I wonder how can GN organize and inspire the whole team when he is on RB position. Rio can succeed Becks as captain in the future though.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I have seen Gary Neville, in the midst of a game, tell Ruud & Ole to play further apart and down the flanks when it was apparent we were not getting much joy trying to play down the middle.
They scored after that.
imho, it is possible to captain a team from the right or left back position. Cafu, Paulo Maldini, Berti Vogts, Paul Brietner, Manny Kaltz, Stuart Pearce, Mick Mills, Phil Neal, Pat Rice, Kenny Sansom, Serge,and somewhat controversially, Julian Dicks and Mick Dennis all captained successfully from the full back position.
It's about personality, not position. Chilavert, Olly Kahn, and the Great Peter Schmikes, were good captains as well.
Originally posted by mick77:
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I have seen Gary Neville, in the midst of a game, tell Ruud & Ole to play further apart and down the flanks when it was apparent we were not getting much joy trying to play down the middle.
They scored after that.
imho, it is possible to captain a team from the right or left back position. Cafu, Paulo Maldini, Berti Vogts, Paul Brietner, Manny Kaltz, Stuart Pearce, Mick Mills, Phil Neal, Pat Rice, Kenny Sansom, Serge,and somewhat controversially, Julian Dicks and Mick Dennis all captained successfully from the full back position.
It's about personality, not position. Chilavert, Olly Kahn, and the Great Peter Schmikes, were good captains as well.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Agree that you have a point. Thanks.
Originally posted by becks75:
<strong>"I've read through a few threads and surprisingly found a lot of fans want Gary, Rio or even Butt to be vice-captain rather than Beckham. Tell me what has Beckham done wrong. We got 6 win in a row when he captained the side yet people are still unsatisified!"
I´m pretty shuret that becks would win every captain poll (without keane) by a mile. Well, maybe not on this forum. But this forum isn`t representative anyway. Far too many irish posts, compared to their laughable population. After two years visiting this forum I have yet to read a positive topic about becks from an irish here. </strong><hr></blockquote>
Posts about Beckham have been fair! Just because people are not obsessed with the guy as you are(judging by your name). Grow up for Christs sake and get a life 'becks75'. Weirdo!
Originally posted by becks75:
<strong>one question. is prc in ireland ?
Serious; he has been judged with more fairness by the majority than veron on this forum.
But you can`t deny the fact that some (less)people here have still to post something positive about him. 95% of these people are irish.
But it is understandable in some way. He is the captain of the english team and the darling of the english press.
Both things aren`t very popular in ireland.
Or do you deny that ?
And for me being obsessed ? Well he is my favorite player, but that´s all. Judging by name there are many other "obsessed" poster here. </strong><hr></blockquote>
Spot on. Its very sad really that people don't see that he's a United player and current Vice Captain of our side, and not just the England Captain.
Originally posted by thumper:
<strong>What has the fact that he's english got to do with it. All these Irish posters are supporting an english team, what does that tell you </strong><hr></blockquote>
That their favourite players are Keano, the ex Ireland Captain, and O'Shea, best player of the season so far...
Originally posted by thumper:
<strong>Keane may be the favourite but its wrong to say that the Irish posters all have a pop at Becks. Yes he falls over a lot without being touched (that might be something to do with it actually) but we all know he's a Red through and through and gives his all. Maybe he's just been talked up too much and people expect to see Zidane like performances but those of us who have supported the club for years know his value and what a talen he is.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I'd like to believe you, but the number of Irish fans who've complained about him is a very high percentage of the total, and far more than non-Irish fans.
Originally posted by Lynott:
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I'm surprised at this rubbish to be honest. The Irish fans on here give complete support for all players English, Dutch, Irish, French whatever. Any criticism is purely football or common sense based. If people feel that Beckham is not a good captain then it is probably down to his quiet demeanor, his erratic form or maybe because he is in the limelite to much for non footballing reasons. Nothing to do with his nationality. Just an additional note, I personnaly feel he is doing a great job as captain at the moment.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Originally posted by oscar74:
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Too thick I'm afraid</strong><hr></blockquote>
I hardly think you could call Keane an Einstein.
Elbowing in front of the ref springs to mind.
Originally posted by thumper:
<strong>Not many footballers are Einstein though. I always believe that if you are going to do something in front of the ref you might as well get hung for a sheep as a lamb (as they say) and Keane should have throttled McAteer instead of a forearm tap <img src="graemlins/devil.gif" border="0" alt="[Devil]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
Oh yeah . . . wonder how many games he would have been banned from after that/how many vital games he would have missed for United?
When Keane sees red (far too often - as opposition players have shown recently, it is easy to wind Roy Keane up) he forgets about the team and the welfare of it. Not good captain material IMO. But he'll return as captain.