Can someone explain...

[Livvie]

...last night's substitution. And also the lack of one.

I couldn't fathom the one that was made, and not because I'm biased. And I couldn't understand why Butt didn't get on at all.

 

[Quinny]

Originally posted by Livvie20:
<strong>...last night's substitution. And also the lack of one.

I couldn't fathom the one that was made, and not because I'm biased. And I couldn't understand why Butt didn't get on at all.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Well I reckon he was resting Scholes/Butt for weekend. Forlan came on to try and give us that extra spark.

 

[Livvie]

Originally posted by Quinny:
<strong>

Well I reckon he was resting Scholes/Butt for weekend. Forlan came on to try and give us that extra spark.</strong><hr></blockquote>


OK. So why wasn't he swapped with Giggs who was abysmal.

I'd be saying the same if he'd replaced Ruud. Why weaken the attack with an unproven player, when he could have strengthened the attack by having all three on. Hasn't the importance of an away goal yet become apparent?

 

[Vincent]

Scholes didn't come on because he's about to be sold and we don't want him cup-tied.

(Joke)

Giggs wasn't substituted because he woke up when Forlan got off the bench and had just started running at the defenders.

Beckham and Veron remained because they may just create something, even when they are not having great matches individually.

That left the old fall-back - make a substitution involving Ole on / off.

 

[Livvie]

Originally posted by Vincent:
<strong>Scholes didn't come on because he's about to be sold and we don't want him cup-tied.


</strong><hr></blockquote>

And is Butt about to be sold as well?

 

[toml]

Originally posted by Quinny:
<strong>Forlan came on to try and give us that extra spark.</strong><hr></blockquote>


<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />

 

[kemo]

I don't understand Butt's abscence. Especially after Fergie claimed he would be first choice to partner Roy

 

[Vincent]

Originally posted by Livvie20:
<strong>

And is Butt about to be sold as well?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Yep. It'll all help fund the Ronaldo & Crespo double swoop.

 

[Davo]

Originally posted by kemo:
<strong>I don't understand Butt's abscence. Especially after Fergie claimed he would be first choice to partner Roy </strong><hr></blockquote>

Perhaps its something to do with the fact that Veron cost 28m...

 

[Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber]

Lousy twat. Fergie said he would drop himn and he always sticks to his word. Remember Becks. Besides most reports claim Bex was the real shite in our midfield.

 

[An Extremely Boring Man]

Originally posted by Livvie20:
<strong>...last night's substitution. And also the lack of one.

I couldn't fathom the one that was made, and not because I'm biased. And I couldn't understand why Butt didn't get on at all.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I agree

For a start, Butt should have been in the starting XI instead of Veron

Scholes should have come on at half time for Giggs who weren't in the game

 

[uranushk1]

Originally posted by Quinny:
<strong>

Well I reckon he was resting Scholes/Butt for weekend. Forlan came on to try and give us that extra spark.</strong><hr></blockquote>

<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> You won't "rest" a player even before the season starts. Fergie should stick with his words and start with Butt. At least this guy can tackle and has the spirit to fight, rather than someone else who just didn't want to break too much sweat in such a match.

 

[Divine]

Didn't see the game, but my guess is that SAF was happy with 0-0. I've often felt that United have been TOO cautious away in Europe and don't play to their own strength. Last night was obviously no different.

Still doesn't explain Butt's absence though.

 

[giggzy]

Ole and Ruud looked below par yesterday.. both couldn't hit a cows backside with banjo.. in that game.

 

[christiepark_boy]

From his comments after the game its not obvious that Fergie thought there was anything actually going wrong out on the pitch until the 90th minute, and would have settled for a no-score draw.

No substitions required, because presumably no need to change the game. I didn't realise our expectations had sunk so low.

 

[Neil Thomson]

Originally posted by christiepark_boy:
<strong>From his comments after the game its not obvious that Fergie thought there was anything actually going wrong out on the pitch until the 90th minute, and would have settled for a no-score draw.

No substitions required, because presumably no need to change the game. I didn't realise our expectations had sunk so low.</strong><hr></blockquote>

 

[Livvie]

Originally posted by giggzy:
<strong>Ole and Ruud looked below par yesterday.. both couldn't hit a cows backside with banjo..
</strong><hr></blockquote>


Maybe this could be a new training method?

 

[pizzu]

my big question is; why is Ole always the one to come off when there were others who were abslot shite. if anything yesterdays match thought us that a group of unknown players could keep up with the SO called stars that did not want to break too much sweat. football is a team game and our oponents played as a team - knowing their limitations and giving 110%.and SAF should stop trying to justify shambolic performances and start kicking backsides.

 

[Livvie]

Originally posted by pizzu:
<strong>my big question is; why is Ole always the one to come off when there were others who were abslot shite. </strong><hr></blockquote>

You won't get an answer.

It might mean saying the manager made a mistake.

 

[Red15]

Originally posted by pizzu:
[QB]my big question is; why is Ole always the one to come off when there were others who were abslot shite. QB]<hr></blockquote>

Same reason why he can't get a game sometimes even when he's the most in form player...because he doesn't kick up a storm, is the model professional and simply accepts it.

Ruud and Ole both should have stayed on the pitch last night. Even if they're having a bad game, they're always capable of scoring...and they both have that self-belief that they can turn it around at any time. If we had decided to go for a nil nil result, then okay, maybe it'd make sense to take off a striker and put on someone like Nicky Butt. But to take off Ole and put on Diego, who is short of confidence and who hasn't scored a competitive goal yet for United...just didn't make sense to me.