Genuinely interested, I just cannt see the appeal, yet there must be something Im missing as something so popular all over the world must have some merit, and Im just not seeing it. But all I can really see is either someone bragging about all the cool shit they have or how great they are over a fairly generic tune......
Can someone explain Hip hop to me?
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No, listen to it for yourself and if you don't like it, don't bother people who do.
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You should instead be asking people to point you in the direction of Hip hop/rap artists worth listening to as from the above description you haven't come across any yet.
There are plenty. As a random recommendation start with The Roots and work your way from there.
Good call.
I have very little clue about hip hop and am not a huge fan but whatever hip hop I have heard and liked is either relatively (emphasis on relatively) outside the mainstream (The Roots, Jurassic 5, Mos Def) or a decade or two old (Public Enemy, NWA, Gang Starr)
If my only exposure to hip hop was the commercial stuff that gets played on MTV/the radio I think I'd hate it too. Even critically acclaimed contemporary artists like Nas and Kanye West do nothing for me.
If you don't know ya betta axe somebody!
Thanks for that, Ill be back after a quick trip to you tube
It should be time well spent. Start with Undun(their latest I beleive) its a hip hop "concept album" that should do the trick as just a starting point.
Just been listening to roots How I Got Over. Must say its different to what Im used to, and quite catchy.
Hip Hop. So diverse. What I see as Hip Hop is not what the next might think at all. However, there are some universal things that have made Hip Hop attractive. The roots it comes from. The classic boom bap sample driven simplicity of beats with mc's trying to encapsulate the mood or feeling behind the music. A good mc/rapper will show lyrical skills on a track through braggado rapping, story telling and imagery painting. It is a form of poetry of some sorts and thus wordplay, metaphors, concepts etc all play a vital part in being a good mc, and of course flow. It must be said, you won't find that in the more commercial streams except for a few artists. If you want to know what Hip Hop is truly about, The Roots is a good start as has been said but so is the whole 'golden era' of hip hop, the 90s. Artists like The Roots, Gang Starr, The Wu Tang Clan (and their solo works), Common, Fugees (from the score album), KRS One, Mos Def, Talib Kweli et al.
In the modern Hip Hop sounds, I like: Reks, Torae, Roc Marciano, Wildelux, Has Lo, Phonte (from the group Little Brother which I highly recommend) et al
In fact, you'd be well advised to check out Hectic's Hip Hop thread for references on albums to listen to. Hopefully you will understand what the real appeal behind the music is after that. You might still not be a fan ala Pogue but you will be able to understand why people love Hip Hop.
In the modern Hip Hop sounds, I like: Reks, Torae, Roc Marciano, Wildelux, Has Lo, Phonte (from the group Little Brother which I highly recommend) et al
In fact, you'd be well advised to check out Hectic's Hip Hop thread for references on albums to listen to. Hopefully you will understand what the real appeal behind the music is after that. You might still not be a fan ala Pogue but you will be able to understand why people love Hip Hop.
That album is filled with good/catchy tunes. Radio Daze, Now or Never, How I Got Over, The Day, Right On, The Fire.
Hip Hop is not just a form of music, it is a way of life and an entire culture.
Hip Hop involves 4 elements - MCing or rapping (most people associate this element with Hip Hop), DJing, Break dancing and Graffiti art.
Hip Hop's origin is debated quit a bit but most can agree that it began in the borough's of New York. Some say Queens, some say the Bronx.
Each borough and even each housing project or block or area have their own twist on each element.
Hip Hop is the voice of the street, that's what it boils down to. It was used to bring people together, to have fun, to protest injustices, and to reveal to a broader audience what exactly was happening in the inner cities.
MCing or Rapping obiously is the most popular. The mid to late 80's is when it really starting to become popular. The late 80's and early 90's is considered the golden age of hip hop as there was a nice balance of commercial exposure and art.
Being an MC means being the Master of Ceremonies. MCs started mostly at parties or gatherings around the block. MCs were often witty, self-promoting, self-boasting and charasmatic guys who wanted to get the party started and get people dancing.
Legend has it that MCing really started when at parties 70's funk and soul would be played like James Brown, Parliament etc. During the breaks of these songs (mostly when just the drums or the drums and bass) people would love to dance. DJ's would prolong this break by moving the record back and repeating it. MC's began rapping over this break and the people at the parties would love it.
The late 90's saw hip hop become overly commercialized and the rights, publishing, promoting, producing of it became mostly owned by white corporate America thus diluting hip hop to cliches that unfortunately have gotten worse into the 2000's.
All from my head, feck wikipedia.
Hip Hop involves 4 elements - MCing or rapping (most people associate this element with Hip Hop), DJing, Break dancing and Graffiti art.
Hip Hop's origin is debated quit a bit but most can agree that it began in the borough's of New York. Some say Queens, some say the Bronx.
Each borough and even each housing project or block or area have their own twist on each element.
Hip Hop is the voice of the street, that's what it boils down to. It was used to bring people together, to have fun, to protest injustices, and to reveal to a broader audience what exactly was happening in the inner cities.
MCing or Rapping obiously is the most popular. The mid to late 80's is when it really starting to become popular. The late 80's and early 90's is considered the golden age of hip hop as there was a nice balance of commercial exposure and art.
Being an MC means being the Master of Ceremonies. MCs started mostly at parties or gatherings around the block. MCs were often witty, self-promoting, self-boasting and charasmatic guys who wanted to get the party started and get people dancing.
Legend has it that MCing really started when at parties 70's funk and soul would be played like James Brown, Parliament etc. During the breaks of these songs (mostly when just the drums or the drums and bass) people would love to dance. DJ's would prolong this break by moving the record back and repeating it. MC's began rapping over this break and the people at the parties would love it.
The late 90's saw hip hop become overly commercialized and the rights, publishing, promoting, producing of it became mostly owned by white corporate America thus diluting hip hop to cliches that unfortunately have gotten worse into the 2000's.
All from my head, feck wikipedia.
Are you any good at maths, Sparky? That's a good way in:
https://www.redcafe.net/f64/mathematics-hip-hop-176708/
https://www.redcafe.net/f64/mathematics-hip-hop-176708/
It's something you either like or not.It happens naturally
It will never cease to amaze me how the actions of a few can completely dominate the wider public's perception of something, hip-hop is great you just need to know where to find hip-hop.
Which is partly the reason for this thread, all the mass produced manufactured stuff i have heard makes me think wtf, after some recomendations here im starting to learn more, quite liking some of it too.