Butt promoted to first team

Neil Thomson

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I'm not sure if any of you saw this in the Daily Mail, it hasn't made it to Soccernet yet, but its very interesting. I quote some of it here:
"If they don't produce now there can be only one outcome. It's a hard business being at the top and only the very best can survive up there. That's why this is a very important season for us. This bunch of players have responded again. Are they hungry enough? For them that question remains the challenge. You pick them, but they always drop[/B} themselves. That applies no matter who they are. Some get annoyed with themselves at the reality of their failure. It is all about their drive and inner belief. Roy Keane is like that. Nothing would alter, even if he had billions. David Beckham is the same, no matter the hairstyle and what he is worth. Some others will take things for granted. [Who?]"

"I'm sorry but it's not about reputations, I'm the manager of the biggest club in the world with the biggest fan base in the world. My loyalty is to them. Of course, I have loyalty for the players, too, but I have to produce a winning team - you don't change that philosophy. That is where the decision-making comes in. Never once have I shirked the responsibilities of this job. I know damn well what winning the League means to this club. We went 26 years without it. Some of our supporters, and even some of the directors, have only known the dominant years. They have no memory of the times we were behind Liverpool and Arsenal. I have."
[On Butt] "I can't keep leaving him out because he's an honest soldier who never complains at his fate - or because he is just Nicky Butt, the footballer with a lot of patience. He has added so much to his game, and I can no longer keep him out. Seba is a marvellous footballer who doesn't become a bad player overnight despite what has been said, I'd rather have him than be without him. But this situation does give us problems, trying to combine all the players in the side. It goes back to the point that performance is all important. Seba will be well aware of that, as the rest will be."

There's loads of news in that imo. It sounds a lot like his pre-execution speech that he normally gives before selling someone. It also means that Veron will no longer get preferential treatment and will have to fight his way into the first team. And its always nice to see his loyalty to the fans ahead of the players, again a warning that its make or break for some of them. Combine this with the sell if I buy comments, and I think we should be open to the exit, and/or dropping, of some players.
 
It's in today's Observer too.

Very interesting remarks about Nicky Butt playing alongside Keano. Not good news for Scholes or Veron.

It's at:
<a href="http://football.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,9753,768937,00.html" target="_blank">http://football.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,9753,768937,00.html</a>
 
Originally posted by True Treble Reds:
<strong>I think Seba's ideal CM partner is Nicky, they compliment each other well imo.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I agree totally, Butt does the dirty work and is happy to sit back and give the ball to Veron. Keane wants the ball all the time, its one of his virtues, but you can't have two central midfielders like that.
 
Originally posted by Neil Thomson:
<strong>
I agree totally, Butt does the dirty work and is happy to sit back and give the ball to Veron. Keane wants the ball all the time, its one of his virtues, but you can't have two central midfielders like that.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Again I agree, it would be nice to play Seba as well, but we would have to sacrifice a striker or a defender for him, and I can't see us doing that. I think Paul Scholes will fight, not sure about Seba.
 
If this does indeed turn out to be true, then it certainly leads to an even bigger situation dilemma.

The team could look like :

Barthez
Brown - Rio - Blanc - Silvestre
Becks - Keane - Butt - Giggs
Ole - RVN

But I cant imagine SAF leaving both Veron and Scholes out. One of them he will almost certainly need to play, however who and where will he play them
<img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" />
 
Seba's performance today would certainly give Fergie something to think about, he was great :)
 
What about;

Barthez
Brown Rio Keane Silvestre
Bex Butt Veron Giggs
Ole Ruud
 
With the pace of Rio, Wes and Mickey you could let Keano into midfield and Rio to sweep.

What a footballing team.

I can hardlythh type
 
Originally posted by reddermo:
<strong>What about;

Barthez
Brown Rio Keane Silvestre
Bex Butt Veron Giggs
Ole Ruud</strong><hr></blockquote>

We're not like the sheep. We can afford to put a real central defender next to Rio.
 
What about:

Barthez
G.Neville Rio F Blanc Silvestre
Beckham Keane Scholes Giggs
Veron
RVN

Subs:
Caroll, Brown, Butt, Ole, Chadwick (or someone else)
 
I don't see Butt in the first team in that formation. Also Veron was tried up front last season and was anonymous. Being a forward has very different skills to being a midfielder.
 
The reality is that if Butt really starts it can only be him to partner Keano. I don't think there is any problem because Keano and Beckham can already use the ball very well, and Beckham should be good enough to carry the role of a playmaker now. We don't really need Veron to be honest.