Blanc must stay

MW16

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This guy is fecking brilliant, its a shame him and Irwin were our best out fielders today and there both leaving, The match tho did'nt really matter, to those of you that went and stayed til Fergie left thats what matters having the memorys and experiances from today are feckin better than if we'd have won 5-0 and finished 2nd but had shite fans
 
Yes, he must, then we can beat you by a even bigger margin next season! :D
 
Originally posted by toml:
<strong>Yes, he must, then we can beat you by a even bigger margin next season! :D </strong><hr></blockquote>

Yeah or maybe Owen will be in his back pocket again like at Old Trafford this season
 
Blanc has had a better season than most of us thought.

But next year he'll be even older, and even more lacking in pace.

We need a strong, pacy CB, who can communicate with the rest of the defence.

I can't believe how blind some people are - just because SAF bought him, the clones come out and say he's brilliant.

Well he was. And he is still good. But we'd be laughing our socks off if he played anywhere else - by that I mean we wouldn't be giving him any credit, whether it was due or not.

The funny thing is - we have finished third in the league, 10 points behind Arsenal. And to listen to some of you lot, it's no-one's fault - and yet when it comes to bringing in new players you've all got your cheque books out.

Well make your minds up!!
 
Originally posted by Livvie20:
<strong>I can't believe how blind some people are - just because SAF bought him, the clones come out and say he's brilliant.

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I know class when I see it and he's class
I take it you have'nt seen the game, you'll be jealous in a minute coz Ole took his top off ( ;) ) and through it into the stretford end there was about 4 people fighting over it
 
Originally posted by Livvie20:
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But next year he'll be even older, and even more lacking in pace.

I can't believe how blind some people are - just because SAF bought him, the clones come out and say he's brilliant.

Well he was. And he is still good. But we'd be laughing our socks off if he played anywhere else - by that I mean we wouldn't be giving him any credit, whether it was due or not.

The funny thing is - we have finished third in the league, 10 points behind Arsenal. And to listen to some of you lot, it's no-one's fault - and yet when it comes to bringing in new players you've all got your cheque books out.

Well make your minds up!!</strong><hr></blockquote>

Blanc will be slower? I didn't think it was humanly possible <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> Seriously though, his mind makes up for anything he doesn't have in his feet and he's shown that for months and months.

The way you are talking, one would think that Sir Alex hasn't been criticized at all. His all handling of the defence has been wrong - if he though Jaap was past it he should have sold him in the summer and bring a replacement earlier, but all that doesn't change the fact Blanc is terrific and it doesn't matter what the world thinks. If it did, most of our squad players would have been sold at one stage or another (Barthez the clown, The Nevilles and Butt are no good, Giggs is unstable, Keane is a hot head, Beckham can't head, dribble and has no left foot, Silvestre can't defend...).

We're losing tons of experience in defence now, so having Laurent around could be vital. Ofcource, we also need a new centerhalf, it doesn't change that, but if Blanc goes we need two.
 
Originally posted by Livvie20:
<strong>I can't believe how blind some people are - just because SAF bought him, the clones come out and say he's brilliant.

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er...i had my doubts when we signed him..but he's been excellent this year, hence has won over most United fans....


however, we need another CB..and maybe a striker, preferably Cisse. ;)
 
In all honesty, another year will probably be a mistake (please let me eat my words). Livvie rightly said, he's past it.

Fair enough, he's prooved us wrong this season. But I cannot seriously see him maintaining this level.

And, to say that Fergie's keeping him for the experience, is fair enough. But Blanc is one of our highest paid players isn't he? We may aswell keep Johnson in that case.
 
Originally posted by MW16:
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I know class when I see it and he's class
I take it you have'nt seen the game, you'll be jealous in a minute coz Ole took his top off ( ;) ) and through it into the stretford end there was about 4 people fighting over it</strong><hr></blockquote>


Don't misunderstand me. I know he's class. But he isn't going to last forever, and next year, he will be older, like it or not.

I'm not blaming Blanc for this year's failure. He improved steadily as the season went on.

Just making the point that we are going to need a new CB. Only one - we'll still have Neville, O'Shea and Brown.

And also making the point that on one hand the die-hards are quick to say it wasn't Blanc's fault, or Veron's fault, or SAF's fault etc. etc. But the same people are very quick to say who we should be buying, and it's going beyond normal strengthening.
 
Was Englands exit from the world cup in 98 Beckham's fault?

These guys can't be hanged and blamed for the team not winning anything. Its not fair. They have tried and they have failed. When they dont try then thats when the fingers start pointing.

You dont have to blame someone for something before you move them on and replace them with someone better.

But Livvie made a great point - there ARE serious problems here, we haven't lost 9 games at home by accident and its not something that should be taken lightly. Do you want to be challenging for the UEFA cup? The Mickey Mouse cup as we all called it last Summer. I hate the way some people here keep ignoring the real problems and hiding them with excuses like "We beat Deportivo!"
 
Blanc has another season in him, i think hes a top guy to have around. even midfielders are playing into the mid 30's these days, guys like macallister are still able to play an effective part for clubs and at blancs level you really dont notice his lack of pace because his timing is so good.

Lets face it; we should be keeping our defenders as well as bringing another 1 or 2 in, more competition will help us tighten up again.
 
Blanc has been our best defender this year, we shouldnt be quick to ditch him. But yes, someone to play alongside him for a year wouldnt go amiss.
A horrible situation IMO would be 2 brand new foreign Cb's trying to bed into a new team, in a new league together. The cohesion would be 'interesting' to say the least.
 
i would like to see o'shea and blanc together for a while. to be honest Brown does not really fill me with confidence in the middle, i would keep him on the right but then what would we do with gary neville?

There are going to be some tough defensive desisions coming up for next season, i think the competitiveness will be fearce for places and that should only serve to tighten things up.

im looking forward to it already!
 
Originally posted by blythy:
<strong>In all honesty, another year will probably be a mistake (please let me eat my words). Livvie rightly said, he's past it.

Fair enough, he's prooved us wrong this season. But I cannot seriously see him maintaining this level.

And, to say that Fergie's keeping him for the experience, is fair enough. But Blanc is one of our highest paid players isn't he? We may aswell keep Johnson in that case.</strong><hr></blockquote>


In other words, we are just praying and hoping that old father time doesn't catch up on his legs abd ability next season.

Too big a risk, I feel.

Let Blanc retire gracefully and start afresh.
 
With what we have now, I'd like to see O'Shea and Neville in the centre. Brown and Silvestre making up the four.

A quality left/right back would be nice.

But the most important thing imo is a bit of organisation and discipline. Without it, the best defenders in the world won't make a scrap of difference.

Oh - and another defender we should bring in is George Graham. :)
 
Originally posted by lchk:
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In other words, we are just praying and hoping that old father time doesn't catch up on his legs abd ability next season.

Too big a risk, I feel.
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Life's all about risk. We've already lost 68 years of experience with Irwin and Johnsen, and I feel that if we lose Blanc, and therefore probably ending up needing to sign 3 defenders, we'll find ourselves having plenty of problems early next season.
 
May I just remark that the rest of the PL will be very very happy if

A/ You keep Blanc ( great but gone )( Pele - he's probably still great - go for him too :D )

B/ Neville , Brown or G Neville in your defence

C/ If you do NOT go out and buy a strong quick and able world class central defender !

D/ Please God the most important - DO NOT let Fergy go , (he's proving to be the biggest liability of all)

E/ Keep Seb playing in the wrong place as Scholes
and Giggs often have too !!

F/ I hear today you're after that clown James in goal too. PLEASE GET HIM also tha's at least 7/8 colossal feck ups per year 3 or 4 of which will result in losing you 9/12 points :D

What a laugh

:o :D <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
 
How quickly the arrogance of being champions is adopted by the supporters.

Proving that it's not only a Manchester United thing.
 
Lother Matthaus played in a European Cup final when he was older than Blanc and if you put both of them at there best Blanc would piss allover him, Blanc is'nt gunna lose all thats good about him over the next few months and another season is the least he could carry on.
And Livvie did you not see what I said Ole took his top off! altho he did have a vest on ;)
 
Originally posted by MW16:
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And Livvie did you not see what I said Ole took his top off! altho he did have a vest on ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

I did see MW, and all credit to him - he never ignores the supporters.

But - surprisingly - I am an Ole fan because of his football and his attitude. Not his pex (or lack of, bless him.....).

Appreciate you passing the news on tho. Nice to know you think about me. :)
 
"Lother Matthaus played in a European Cup final when he was older than Blanc and if you put both of them at there best Blanc would piss allover him"

Are you serious?

Lauren Blanc is better then Matheus at his best ??

What sort of football have you been watching mate?

Forget the Arse v Man Utd thing but Matheus has been one of the best German players since Beckenbauer . Blanc has been a high class defender ( world class )who did not merit a mention until just before the last world cup !!!!!

And I can tell you that before that he was not renowned for being world class .

Sheesh
 
Originally posted by Amir:
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Life's all about risk. We've already lost 68 years of experience with Irwin and Johnsen, and I feel that if we lose Blanc, and therefore probably ending up needing to sign 3 defenders, we'll find ourselves having plenty of problems early next season.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Nonsense - Pallister and Bruce has more experience than those two who left, surely you wouldn't contemplate signing them again just because they have more years?

We all know that in professional sports, age will eventually catch up and hamper one's ability and consistency - witness Irwin this season or in the NBA, Micheal Jordan.

And you wouldn't need to buy three at one go, a centre-half to go along with gary in the middle and a new right-back will be good for a start.
 
Originally posted by Amir:
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Life's all about risk. We've already lost 68 years of experience with Irwin and Johnsen, and I feel that if we lose Blanc, and therefore probably ending up needing to sign 3 defenders, we'll find ourselves having plenty of problems early next season.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Agreed. Buying new players will undoubtedly be a risky move, especially if they're all defenders.
 
Originally posted by Jopub the Gooner:
<strong>"Lother Matthaus played in a European Cup final when he was older than Blanc and if you put both of them at there best Blanc would piss allover him"

Are you serious?

Lauren Blanc is better then Matheus at his best ??

What sort of football have you been watching mate?

Forget the Arse v Man Utd thing but Matheus has been one of the best German players since Beckenbauer . Blanc has been a high class defender ( world class )who did not merit a mention until just before the last world cup !!!!!

And I can tell you that before that he was not renowned for being world class .

Sheesh</strong><hr></blockquote>

Blanc was the captain of one of the best international sides of all time and Matthaus and him were both great players, the thing is Blanc was and still is great
 
Originally posted by Raoul:
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Agreed. Buying new players will undoubtedly be a risky move, especially if they're all defenders.</strong><hr></blockquote>

So bringing in Ayala (prefer him over Thuram; if no Ayala, please grab Nesta or Samuel) to play alongside Blanc and perhaps Lizazaru to push Silvestre at LB would be risky?

Sounds like a solid investment to me.

United didn't address their defensive liabilities last summer, and a 3rd place finish was the result. So how would strengthening the defense be risky?
 
Originally posted by Livvie20:
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Appreciate you passing the news on tho. Nice to know you think about me. :) </strong><hr></blockquote>

Well actually I was considering going down and fighting for it and then Id got to one of them soft, sorry redcafe.net meet ups and give you his shirt ;)
 
Originally posted by MW16:
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Well actually I was considering going down and fighting for it and then Id got to one of them soft, sorry redcafe.net meet ups and give you his shirt ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>


Awwww!! Thanks MW!! :)
 
Originally posted by lchk:
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Nonsense - Pallister and Bruce has more experience than those two who left, surely you wouldn't contemplate signing them again just because they have more years?

And you wouldn't need to buy three at one go, a centre-half to go along with gary in the middle and a new right-back will be good for a start.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Gary Neville's a fine player but you won't win the European title with Gary Neville as your centerhalf. And he's too good to just be a backup for central defendce and a new right back. Both Nevilles take cares of the right back position.

I'm not saying experience is everything, but Blanc's been our best defender last season and we've just lost two of our most consistent players (when fit, regarding Johnsen) so there's absolutely no reason why we should give up on him.
 
Originally posted by MW16:
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Blanc was the captain of one of the best international sides of all time </strong><hr></blockquote>

No. Deschamps was.
 
Originally posted by Floyd:
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No. Deschamps was.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Only because Jacquet had to contradict everything Eric Cantona ever said. ;)

Nevertheless, Blanc was still in the heart of the probably best ever team display throughout a world cup tournament.
 
Hope that's true:

French defender Laurent Blanc has agreed to sign a new one year extension to stay at the club claims his agent Alain Migliacco.

Blanc initially said he would quit in the summer but he has been persuaded to stay on for one more season.

The defender is now preparing to work on French tv as a pundit during the World Cup finals.