Biggest All-Time Draft - R2: Gio vs Prolifik

Who will win this game?


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Team Gio

STRENGTH IN DEFENCE


  • The core of the defence is formed by the World Cup winning Argentinian trio of Fillol, Passarella and Ruggeri. Given the strength of Prolifik's attack, it is fortunate I have such high-calibre defenders. Both Passarella and Ruggeri have the physicality and aerial ability to match up to Marco, with Passarella providing the requisite insurance to sweep away any threats in behind. Out wide top-shelf full-backs in Nilton Santos and Carlos Alberto complete the back line, oozing class on the ball, also excelling in defending central areas (Nilton Team of the Tournament in '54 as an LCB in a 3 / Carlos Alberto experienced in the middle), which should reduce the threat posed by Pro's Muller and Mbappe from cutting in to central areas. Both are as good as I could ask for in defending against that threat.
BALANCE IN MIDFIELD

  • The game plan of the midfield will be to position goalside of Schuster and De Bruyne, using Dunga's tigerish energy to hassle whichever of the three he is closest to, with Clodoaldo securing the 6 space to shut down space in front of the defence. Off-the-ball it is a robust midfield where Clodoaldo and Dunga will be hard to break down and mirror the Dunga/Silva partnership of WC '94. Veron will assume the creative mantle in the midfield three and will smoothly link defence and attack as he did so well for Parma, Lazio and Argentina in the late 90s. Positionally it is slightly more reserved than in the previous game, but it is what is necessary to minimise the threat coming from the opposition midfield. On the ball it is progressive and should provide a healthy supply to the two Rs just ahead.
PUNCH IN ATTACK

  • We will transition quickly and counter sharply. This will be aided by the elite passing ability and range of Passarella and Carlos Alberto, alongside Veron in midfield, to find the front three early and in space. Ronaldinho is reunited with Rivaldo and, together with Spencer, should form a fluid and penetrating attack built in the same shape as Brazil's all-conquering front trio from the 2002 World Cup. Spencer's horizontal and vertical movement will stretch the opposition defence and create gaps that the ruthless Rivaldo and mesmerising Ronaldinho can exploit. He will also peel Henry-style wide then look to stand up Carvajal / Junior 1v1 and use his pace to surge towards goal. Similarly, he has the ideal attributes to breach a high line with his pace and finishing. Both Rivaldo and Ronaldinho will float in the inside-left and inside-right spaces where they can ask questions of the opposition midfield and defence (do we drop / do we step up?). Together the attack feels complementary.


Team Prolifik

The objective here is to leverage our speed and athleticism to deny the opposition space when we don't have the ball, and to strike quickly and directly when we do. Our back line will play high up the pitch, anchored by the central pairing of Van Dijk (the perfect high line defender) and Mozer, who has the combination of pace and intelligence to thrive in this system, and backed up by an elite sweeper-keeper in Ter Stegen. We've revamped the midfield with the additions of Rodri and KDB, who are both well versed in the pressing game from their time together at Man City, as well as Cambiasso's combination of tenacity and technical ability. KDB in particular is a master of turning defence into attack with his precision passing both short and long.

In attack, we sub in Amancio, who provides another lethal goal threat cutting in from wide areas, with some dribbling wizardry to boot. Our front three's movement will be unpredictable with Van Basten sometimes running the channels to create space for the wide forwards to drift infield. The threat of Van Basten, Amancio, or Mbappé being played in by a defence-splitting KDB through ball or a long diagonal from Van Dijk should somewhat temper the attacking forays of Gio's full-backs as well as Passarella's jaunts forward from the libero position.
 
Voted gio for now but almost chose pro first. My well change after reading what’s to be said in the thread
 
nice team from gio but pro has one of the best teams in the draft
 
My only comment would be that for me, peak/prime Ronaldinho was pretty clearly best on the left, cutting in onto his stronger right foot and causing havoc. I feel like him starting on the right works in my favour.
 
My only comment would be that for me, peak/prime Ronaldinho was pretty clearly best on the left, cutting in onto his stronger right foot and causing havoc. I feel like him starting on the right works in my favour.
I thought this too, and also Dunga was more of a central DM and not a roaming terrier. Obviously could be wrong and was why I was waiting to see the convo
 
I thought this too, and also Dunga was more of a central DM and not a roaming terrier. Obviously could be wrong and was why I was waiting to see the convo
Think he could play both roles, the deeper position is the one I'm more familiar with though.
 
dinho and rivaldo should be swapped IMO
get it why gio went like this but you want dinho as the star player in best possible position and with hindsight of knowing how game evolved im 99,9% that rivaldo would be playing from the right in the modern game.
 
I thought this too, and also Dunga was more of a central DM and not a roaming terrier. Obviously could be wrong and was why I was waiting to see the convo
I'd say there were two phases to Dunga's career. The more all-round two-way CM during his 20s and then the more reserved controlling holder that we saw at the 1994 and 1998 World Cups in his 30s. The latter version was great, rock-solid in the States and very good in France. But looking at him earlier on he had a more expansive attacking game which made me think he'd be ideal for the role here.

Joga said:


Lothar who? What a player, been quite an eye opening experience watching him play for Fiorentina in the late eighties, mainly whilst watching Baggio :wenger:. I've rated him as a player but his 90s version did seem a tad bit boring and predictable. Not the 80s one though.



Anyways his insane pressing ability, defensive positioning and astute use of the ball (very adventurous and forward oriented, yet efficient) really stand out. Really tried to emphasize on his closing down and pressing - cutting down the angles for the opposition player, frequently leading to turn overs. Keep in mind that this Inter side would go on to win the Serie A by a whopping 11 points that season, and it boasted the likes of Mätthaus, Matteoli and Berti in midfield, an uber dynamic and an imposing engine room.

If that doesn't convince you, just watch it for Dunga's OTT hilarious reactions, that alone should make it worth your while :lol:


He's quite similar in style and career path to Keane.
 
dinho and rivaldo should be swapped IMO
get it why gio went like this but you want dinho as the star player in best possible position and with hindsight of knowing how game evolved im 99,9% that rivaldo would be playing from the right in the modern game.
Yeah I don't disagree. I was styling it on how they played together for Brazil in 2002. Which was basically as above, but they floated and swapped all the time.
 
dinho and rivaldo should be swapped IMO
get it why gio went like this but you want dinho as the star player in best possible position and with hindsight of knowing how game evolved im 99,9% that rivaldo would be playing from the right in the modern game.

Your probably right on Rivaldo playing RW today but his crossing was brilliant which is why I prefer him left. That said with both Dinho and Rivaldo it should be Dinho left and Rivaldo right.
 
Your probably right on Rivaldo playing RW today but his crossing was brilliant which is why I prefer him left. That said with both Dinho and Rivaldo it should be Dinho left and Rivaldo right.

he cant cross from the right?
 
I'd say there were two phases to Dunga's career. The more all-round two-way CM during his 20s and then the more reserved controlling holder that we saw at the 1994 and 1998 World Cups in his 30s. The latter version was great, rock-solid in the States and very good in France. But looking at him earlier on he had a more expansive attacking game which made me think he'd be ideal for the role here.



He's quite similar in style and career path to Keane.
Thanks for this and the video, I’ll give that a watch. I was more familiar with nineties Dunga
 
he cant cross from the right?
Sure, but more natural from the left and more likely to put in an early cross if he is on the left

Edit- it annoys me how today's wingers give the full back a chance to block and the CBs more time to get in the right position because they have to check inside before crossing.
 
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I'd say there were two phases to Dunga's career. The more all-round two-way CM during his 20s and then the more reserved controlling holder that we saw at the 1994 and 1998 World Cups in his 30s. The latter version was great, rock-solid in the States and very good in France. But looking at him earlier on he had a more expansive attacking game which made me think he'd be ideal for the role here.



He's quite similar in style and career path to Keane.
Recently rewatched the 1994 final to scout some of my R1 players, and at least for that game, I'd go far beyond that. Much has been said about Baresi's great display, but Dunga's two-way performance rivals him for MOTM, imo. I liked his use of the ball even more, in comparison.

But your choice of younger Dunga here is spot on, of course.
 
It’s heads! @prolifik gets through.

I’m on the phone so it’s harder to upload an image but I took a screenshot if you guys will want proof.
 
One of the most daunting aspects of the Gio team is their set pieces and dead-ball situations, especially free kicks. I can confidently say that if this were a real-life match, the coach of Prolifik would definitely instruct his players, particularly the backline, Cambiasso, and Rodri, to avoid committing fouls near the penalty area. This is because Gio has excellent free-kick takers like Ronaldinho (right foot), Rivaldo (left foot), and Passarella (left foot). Having such lethal free-kick takers, especially those with a strong left foot, is something I find extremely intimidating.
As for corners, they have Ruggeri, Passarella, and Spencer waiting to head the ball, with Rivaldo or Ronaldinho ready to pounce on any rebounds and shoot from distance. Additionally, they have Veron, who is not only a dangerous corner taker but has also scored directly from corners before.
 
One of the most daunting aspects of the Gio team is their set pieces and dead-ball situations, especially free kicks. I can confidently say that if this were a real-life match, the coach of Prolifik would definitely instruct his players, particularly the backline, Cambiasso, and Rodri, to avoid committing fouls near the penalty area. This is because Gio has excellent free-kick takers like Ronaldinho (right foot), Rivaldo (left foot), and Passarella (left foot). Having such lethal free-kick takers, especially those with a strong left foot, is something I find extremely intimidating.
As for corners, they have Ruggeri, Passarella, and Spencer waiting to head the ball, with Rivaldo or Ronaldinho ready to pounce on any rebounds and shoot from distance. Additionally, they have Veron, who is not only a dangerous corner taker but has also scored directly from corners before.

I often forget about set-pieces but you are spot on here.