Best team performances since SAF

AndersB

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Tonight's match against Spurs has to be right up there. Completely outclassed and dominated them for a full 90. Scoreline flattering to Spurs due to Lloris channelling his inner Lev Yashin. Absolutely trampled their midfield.

Which others could compete?

Something during Ole's golden run, perhaps?

The Ajax EL win was also pretty good.

Stuff like PSG and Smalling vs. City was amazing, but the performances weren't that great
 
Van Gaal's 4-2 demolition at home to City is the best we've played since Fergie. But this is the best performance since then.
 
This kind of performances were coming for everyone with eyes. Some people were losing their sh*t because we only scored at the death against Omonia but tonight it was the same kind of performance.
 
Juanfield. Should of been 3-1 but for Rooney missing the penalty but my god we bossed them that day.
 
Tonight. We committed a violent crime against a very good Spurs side tonight. We didn't even really dominate big games under Fergie towards the end of his tenure.
 
Chelsea at home in 2017. Spurs away 2021. City at home in 2020.

But today was different level, we battered them completely.
 
Today:
Most shots in the first 45 minutes (19) since SAF left.
Most shots from outside the box (15) in the first 45 minutes since 2004.
 
Spurs away 2021 when we won 3-1 comes to mind. Of course, we have the obvious Juanfield and City 4-2.

I'd actually say the City 2-0 away in 2021 was also a perfect big game away performance.
 
Now that was a proper performance......if not for Lloris' brilliance we could have had 5-6
 
Van Gaal's 4-2 demolition at home to City is the best we've played since Fergie. But this is the best performance since then.
That game was just absolutely brilliant in every way - and it started with City scoring an embarassingly easy goal. I feared a thrashing at that point but we had, erm, Young, Fellaini, and Smalling...
 
and after the weekend - we will have played all the current top 9 in the table
 
I thought Brighton away after the restart was awesome. Everyone was raving about Brighton and we bashed them up.

But I guess against a "top team" today was right up there.
 
The very same fixture in Ole's first full season in charge? If I'm not wrong, it was Jose's first game at Old Trafford as opposition manager after he was sacked as well and we had completely dominated them in that game. Wasn't one of the usual counter attacking performances we saw frequently under Ole. It was a dominant performance. Fred was also amazing in that game. And Rashford too.
 
Solskjaer at the Etihad. Part 1.

This was the best of the season, probably. That’s about it. Was refreshing to see us win a football match by more than one goal for a change.
 
LVG win at City. We’ve had good games but I can’t remember us being so dominant everywhere and actually controlling things since the LVG days and we also had issues scoring then.
 
This was the best performance at Old Trafford since the 2-0 win against City immediately prior to lockdown.
 
Time plays tricks with your mind. When I think of SAF days, my first thought is of fast breaks, counters with Giggs flying down the wing. Making crosses for the centre forward. Second thought is of Keano with superhuman space around him, making space like an anti-magnet, space and vision and crunching tackles. Third thought is of Cantona trying on the absurd, and it actually working a fair bit of the time. Then I think of Beckham and the ability to deliver radar-like curve-balls.

I don’t think of domination, of cute patterns of play, of possession and coordinated pressing and TenHagBall. Time has moved on. We strike passes harder these days. Keepers have to have good feet, and vision. So no, not the most dominant since SAF. Posters who talk about LVG are not far wrong here. In a kind of jittery, random way, like a drunk man making his way home, the club kind of stumbled to this place, via Moyes and Ole, both who tried - to some extent - to relive SAF’s approach. Sometimes we swayed towards where we are today. LVG introduced play out from the back, keep-ball, press. In his day this seemed an alien and strange approach. But he sowed important seeds and ideas.

LVG wasn’t alone, of course. In the years since Sir Alex left, European coaches and TV money (and oil money) utterly transformed English football. We have had Klopp and his version of pressure-ball, and of course Pep. The Ajax/Ten Hag version is of a slightly different flavour, but it’s great to watch. If last night showed anything it highlighted the difference in the philosophy of Conte, which is (still) all about containment and breakouts. TenHagBall, by contrast, is like being suffocated in the grip of a Python. Eyes bulge, tongue goes out. The MUFC of the Ferguson era is comparable only perhaps in the fear factor for opponents at OT. If we continue on this path, that will undoubtedly return.
 
West Ham on the opening day of 17/18 was the best we’ve looked since Fergie retired I think.
 
Van Gaal's 4-2 demolition at home to City is the best we've played since Fergie. But this is the best performance since then.

This is a good shout, of course, along with Juanfield. There's something about keeping a clean sheet though, and against a Spurs in ascendancy, with Kane having scored in five straight matches prior to this. Just loved the tenacity of the players last night. It wasn't a controlled, safe, possession-oriented win as such either, it was more high-power, high-tempo, fairly direct, and with a midfield completely bossing the duels.
 
Time plays tricks with your mind. When I think of SAF days, my first thought is of fast breaks, counters with Giggs flying down the wing. Making crosses for the centre forward. Second thought is of Keano with superhuman space around him, making space like an anti-magnet, space and vision and crunching tackles. Third thought is of Cantona trying on the absurd, and it actually working a fair bit of the time. Then I think of Beckham and the ability to deliver radar-like curve-balls.

I don’t think of domination, of cute patterns of play, of possession and coordinated pressing and TenHagBall. Time has moved on. We strike passes harder these days. Keepers have to have good feet, and vision. So no, not the most dominant since SAF. Posters who talk about LVG are not far wrong here. In a kind of jittery, random way, like a drunk man making his way home, the club kind of stumbled to this place, via Moyes and Ole, both who tried - to some extent - to relive SAF’s approach. Sometimes we swayed towards where we are today. LVG introduced play out from the back, keep-ball, press. In his day this seemed an alien and strange approach. But he sowed important seeds and ideas.

LVG wasn’t alone, of course. In the years since Sir Alex left, European coaches and TV money (and oil money) utterly transformed English football. We have had Klopp and his version of pressure-ball, and of course Pep. The Ajax/Ten Hag version is of a slightly different flavour, but it’s great to watch. If last night showed anything it highlighted the difference in the philosophy of Conte, which is (still) all about containment and breakouts. TenHagBall, by contrast, is like being suffocated in the grip of a Python. Eyes bulge, tongue goes out. The MUFC of the Ferguson era is comparable only perhaps in the fear factor for opponents at OT. If we continue on this path, that will undoubtedly return.

Your memory of football under SAF is sadly deficient. His teams at their best were perfectly capable of dominating and suffocating teams until they collapsed. And they demonstrated that many times. We've had 2 famous comebacks against Spurs where we just threw the kitchen sink at them with wave after wave of attack!
 
We’ve had a few but probably purely due to receny bias I’m going to say yeah this is the best one in a long time.
 
We had some excellent games but nothing like yesterday. We had some dominant big game displays under LvG, but never in terms of chances created. Possession and restricting opposition, yes, not in chances. Yesterday we had it all. For me, it was the best game even if you include some of the past few Sir Alex seasons. Said it in another thread, best football I've seen us okay since the community Shield win vs City in 11/12, yes it was only a glorified friendly but both teams went all out for it and we destroyed City and played great football (result was kind to them).
 
Tonight's match against Spurs has to be right up there. Completely outclassed and dominated them for a full 90. Scoreline flattering to Spurs due to Lloris channelling his inner Lev Yashin. Absolutely trampled their midfield.

Which others could compete?

Something during Ole's golden run, perhaps?

The Ajax EL win was also pretty good.

Stuff like PSG and Smalling vs. City was amazing, but the performances weren't that great

Different style of football, but I think this was the best display since beating Roma 6-2 and Real Sociedad 4-0 away under Ole. 2-1 away to PSG, were we could have even won more, was an impressive game, and 5-0 against RB Leipzig. A few of the wins vs City were also brilliant game hame plan excecution. Different styles of play, though.

Van Gaal had us rolling for a couple of games in march that were very high level. Beating City, Arsenal and was it Liverpool(?) in comprehensive fashion.

But yesterday - I loved everything about that performance!
 
Chelsea at home in 2017. Spurs away 2021. City at home in 2020.

But today was different level, we battered them completely.
Another game that comes to my mind is against Arsenal at home in November 2016, it finished 1-1 as Giroud scored towards the end but we completely dominated them for at least 80 minutes. We didn't create many big chances though, but I was impressed with the control we had in that game.

Chelsea at home in 2017 was classic Mourinho masterclass.
 
Let's stat the shit out of this (United stats on left)...

Last Night
Possession 52% vs 48%
Total Shots 28 vs 9
SoT 10 vs 2
Corners 8 vs 3
*Spurs came into this game with their best start in the history of the Premier League

2-1 vs Liverpool, Juanfield
Possession 58% vs 42%
Total Shots 6 vs 7
SoT 3 vs 1
Corners 3 vs 2
*United had man advantage for the whole of the second half

4-2 vs City
Possession 59% vs 41%
Total Shots 11 vs 10
SoT 7 vs 3
Corners 1 vs 5
*City had lost their previous 3 away matches, vs Liverpool, Palace and Burnley

2-0 vs City, Last Game Before Lockdown
Possession 28% vs 72%
Total Shots 7 vs 12
SoT 6 vs 4
Corners 2 vs 11
*Both United goals down to goalkeeping howler

The only rational conclusion is that last night was the best performance of any of these.

Any other contenders I've missed out?
 
We harassed them in possession so hard they just stopped trying at some point. Don't think we've ever had that since SAF.
 
When you realize we're counting the good games we played in the last 10 years on two hands. How shit have we been in the last decade ?