Beer Draft: SF - Isotope vs Enigma

With players at their peak, who would win?

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Isotope

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Isotope Tactics

The team centers on physically skillful 4-3-3 football prowess. It was led by dynamic attack with two potent wide forwards, and combative warriors in midfield. The defence bulwarked by versatile players to cope with any type of attack, possessing passing from the back.

Michael Owen, football purist.

"With my power of hindsight, I think Isotope's team have advantage, where:
  • Isotope boasts not one, but two of the most exceptional wide forwards, pitted against two attacking fullbacks. This creates a considerable mismatch that could tip the scales in Iso's favor.
  • Drawing on historical precedence, Vogts could generally stifle the legendary Cruyff in the 1974 World Cup final by meticulously denying him any space to launch attacks. Despite Cruyff being a force unto himself, Vogts demonstrated a capability to neutralize even the most formidable opponents.
  • Elite defensive man markers: The presence of Bratseth, a proven world-class man marker and libero capable of a remarkable 4.7-second sprint over 40 meters, adds a layer of defensive prowess. Campbell's track record includes successfully containing one of the greatest strikers, Ronaldo, preventing any goals in two encounters; and limiting “fox in the box” goalscorer Nistelrooy to just one goal in nine games.
Last but not least, there are so many capable goalscorers from various positions in Iso’s team, from midfield to attack. This dynamic offensive prowess making it difficult to devise any defensive strategy.

As wise man once said, whichever team scores more goals usually wins.”


Defence: Two of finest balanced fullbacks in K-H Schnellinger and Berti Vogts are seamlessly working with the stalwart partnership of Sol Campbell and Rune Bratseth. They’re standing tall as fortress before Oliver Kahn, a paragon of Germany's goalkeeping legacy. Both Bratseth and Schnellinger will orchestrating passes to the midfield, further enhancing team’s fluidity and strategic prowess.

Midfield: The heart of the team boasting midfield titans of Lothar Matthäus, Paul Breitner, and Frank Rijkaard. Together, they form a strong force with individual strengths, offering goalscoring prowess, tireless box to box play and defensive shield, playmaking flair, and boundless energy to dominate the midfield battle.

On Attack: United legend and one of the greatest winger/wing forward, the iconic George Best, is set to join forces with the direct yet creative Karl Heinz Rummenigge. This dynamic duo serves as an exceptional complement to the prolific Jimmy Greaves, a formidable striker and the most prolific in British football history. Together, they form an attacking trio that promises such display of skill, dynamic movement, and an impressive goal-scoring prowess on the field.

Enigma Tactics

Formation: 4-3-3, fluid, direct, press the opposition, moderate defensive line

Defence:
Moore bosses the defence in his natural role, paired with van Dijk forming a scary partnership at the back, as this is van Dijk before the injury having pace on the deck and really strong in challenge. The flanks are occupied by Andy Brehme who is a very viable route to goal with his crossing for Muller in the box. Actually the two Mullers in the box. On the right we have Gerets who is another one who can boss an entire flank and has the stamina to keep going all game.

Midfield:
Bernd Schuster is in deep playmaking role, initiating the attacks from deep and in playing in a holding role in front of the defence. Alongside him is Davids who plays his natural defensive box to box role. The new face is Bryan Robson. Captain fantastic is in his natural box to box role and what both Robbo and Davids brings to the game is the ability to double down on the opposition wingers when off the ball as that's Iso's team main weapon. Both Davids and Robson can provide support on the flanks and help Brehme/Gerets.

Attack:
Spearheading the attack is probably the greatest #9 in the game - Gerd Muller. A matchwinner on his own he now has a key element just behind him to run the game in the attacking third in Johan Cruyff. Thomas Muller who will break the lines and open up passing alleys with his movement.

Obviously Cruyff is now the star of the show, however he has someone who he didn't have a chance to play alongside in any team both for club and country - a true #9 who also is one of the very best in his position. Cruyff obviously plays in free role and has Brehme, who similarly to Krol is an attacking wing back that can provide support on the flank and allow him to tuck inside.

Our midfield consists of players that Cruyff would love to play alongside - great engines in Davids/Robson and Schuster who can dictate from deep but also style that meshes up well with him.



Game against Sweden where Cruyff put so many great balls inside the box only not to be capitalized. Something der Bomber would utilize in this game.

Also a bit on Gerd Muller, sometimes unfairly considered only a target man:
 
Thanks, Physio.

Enigma's just look fabulous. Such a shame that team has to meet mine, which is a tad better.
 
Proven deadly duo.

1981
The duo Breitnigge with skipper Paul Breitner and Karl-Heinz Rummenigge dominated the league. Bayern scored 89 goals, 46 of those netted by the leading duo. Breitner took ten penalties, scoring every time – a league record unmatched to this day. Rummenigge retained the accolade of top scorer with 29 goals, Paul Breitner became Footballer of the Year.

 
Berti Vogts vs Cruyff in Germany winning World Cup 1974

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2002/jul/15/sport.comment5


West Germany found the answer to Johan Cruyff and won the 1974 World Cup amid much rejoicing, and some relief, here this afternoon. After falling behind before they had touched the ball they defeated Holland with the sort of performance that had made them such overwhelming favourites before the marvellous all-round qualities of the Dutch side began to sow the seeds of doubt in German minds.

The game, which was extremely rough in parts with several cautions given by the English referee, Jack Taylor, seldom if ever reached the heights of skill achieved by the Brazilians in the 1970 final; nor did it equal the dramas of Wembley in 1966. But the willingness of both teams to throw men forward in attack ensured that the football was rarely dull.

If one player was responsible for Germany's victory it was surely Berti Vogts, the stocky blond defender who was detailed to stop Cruyff and won one of the World Cup's most interesting and certainly most telling duels. Late in the game Cruyff moved into the middle of the Dutch attack only to encounter Beckenbauer at his most masterful.

With Cruyff halted, the Dutch football, while remaining skilful, seemed grey and unimaginative in comparison with what had gone before. It was as if somebody had ploughed over a tulip field. The other ingredients were there - Neeskens with his stamina and courage, Van Hanegem's wickedly swerving passes, the energy and quick eye of Jansen and the overlapping of Suurbier and Krol. But for long periods, even though Holland had possession, Rep, Rensenbrink and Van de Kerkhof, who replaced Rensenbrink for the second half, did not get the opportunities near goal to which they had been accustomed. When they did, either the shots were inaccurate or Maier steadfastly blocked the way.

Vogts was cautioned in the opening minutes after two fouls, but the frustration and ill temper were usually Dutch. Cruyff was shown the yellow card when he argued as the teams left the field at half-time, and early in the second half he received a lecture from Mr Taylor for following through recklessly at the goalkeeper. Van Hanegem and Neeskens were cautioned for fouls.

Throughout the competition West Germany have tended to get results when they most wanted them, often improving after unimpressive openings. So it was here. Many teams would have been unnerved to the point of defeat after Holland had taken the lead with a penalty after a minute's play, less because of the goal than the manner of its arrival. Having kicked off the Dutch strung more than a dozen passes around the centre of the field at a walking pace, suggesting that they were looking for mines rather than goals. But suddenly Cruyff broke into a sprint, tried to force his way between Hoeness and Bonhof and was brought down. Neeskens walloped the penalty past Maier, and for the next 20 minutes the Germans played as if in a stupor of disbelief.

Misguidedly, Holland continued to slow the rhythm of their game, content to stop Overath getting his passes through, block the wings and seal the middle. Perhaps they thought they could win the World Cup without allowing Germany to play in the final; if so, it was a rash assumption, for the Germans needed only a goal to recover their poise.

This is precisely what happened. As the Germans began to run wider, making it less easy for the Dutch to maintain their casual cover, Holzenbein raced into the penalty area from the left and was brought down by Jansen, who had charged back 40 yards to make the tackle. Breitner scored with the penalty and from then the crowd in the Olympic Stadium began to recognise their team.

Once more the German system of double wings was an important factor in their success. Hoeness covered huge areas as he worked in turn with Holzenbein and Grabowski to wear down the Dutch flanks. At last Suurbier and Krol, who have had such a splendid tournament as attacking backs, were outmanoeuvred by players of superior pace and wit. In the 36th minute Beckenbauer had Jongbloed stretching back desperately to push a delicate lob of a free-kick over the cross-bar; seven minutes later Germany were ahead with the goal that was to win the World Cup.

A smart early ball by Grabowski and a shrewd run into space by Bonhof opened up the right wing to the corner flag. Grabowski ran deep and his low centre ran slightly behind Müller as he met it in front of goal. But no Dutch defender was near enough to tackle Müller, who had time to check, retrieve and slip his shot past Jongbloed from about 10 yards.

The second half proved more anxious for the German supporters than for their team. Only occasionally did Holland swing from penalty area to penalty area with the effortless running and passing which has made them such a pleasure to watch. When they did seem likely to pierce the German cover, either in the air or on the ground, they found Beckenbauer at his most imperious. He was caught off guard only once when Van Hanegem dived in low and late past his right hip to meet Cruyff's free-kick and test the reflexes of Maier, who caught the ball and gave his captain a hurt glance.

That was one of the best chances Holland had to take the game into extra time. Another came when Neeskens met a centre from Van de Kerkhof with a volley that the goalkeeper blocked. A few minutes after that Suurbier exchanged passes with Haan to create a situation on the right similar to that from which Müller had scored, but Rep headed wide.

As Holland risked more and more to get a goal they were often caught by their opponents breaking. To the end of the tournament West Germany tended to fiddle with simple chances of this kind, but Müller's goal had been enough, and as Beckenbauer, holding the new Fifa Trophy aloft, acknowledged the cheers, the Dutch had the consolation of knowing that they had been beaten by the only team in the competition who truly had the talent to do so - even if they had not always shown it.

West Germany: Maier; Vogts, Breitner, Schwarzenbeck, Beckenbauer, Bonhof, Hoeness, Grabowski, Overath, Müller, Holzenbein.

Holland: Jongbloed; Suurbier, Haan, Rijsbergen (De Jong, 64), Krol, Jansen, Van Hanegem, Neeskens, Rep, Cruyff, Rensenbrink (R van de Kerkhof, h-t).

Referee: J Taylor (England).
 
A bit on Thomas Muller and the ability to break between the lines.
a game with big names in it he’s someone who can pop up and score the decisive goal.

we’ve seen many times in his career how he always manages to find space between the defenders especially when they are occupied with Cruyff and der Bomber.

 
Edgar Allan Pillow said:
Sorry @Isotope but yeah. Love your midfield and it has the edge even against one as good as Enigma's but still....

If you had come up against the other two, I'd have voted for you easily. Just an unfortunate draw.
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No problemo, man. Can't fault people liking Enigma's.
 
Good game @Isotope ! I liked your team the most of our the rest and really unfortunate draw. Not much between the two teams.
 
I didn't vote because I didn't think there was much between the two teams. Enigma had a slightly better back 4 so I was leaning towards him, but fine margins really. Great teams both of you.
 
Himannv said:
I didn't vote because I didn't think there was much between the two teams. Enigma had a slightly better back 4 so I was leaning towards him, but fine margins really. Great teams both of you.
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Defensively, my back 4 should be better as a unit (I don't rate VVD much, as he only has one or two top seasons at club level. On NT level, he's nothing to show). Then you add those trio in midfield, then mine becomes on another level, defensively.

But yeah, offensively Enigma's is on another level.
 
Himannv said:
Someone should develop a way to sim this using AI tools. Rather than just using only player skills, they can also add player synergy, tactics, 1v1 situations, and a few other aspects to it and come up with something great.
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Calling all coders!

I think Best and Greaves could turn this thing around. Peak Best with something to prove, playing with Greaves. They could cause a lot of damage.
 
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