Becks vs. Ole

thangtbt

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Who is better right-winger?

At this time, Norwegian man is more dangerous. More agile, usually drifts into centre of midfield, he makes more threats and creates many chances for Ruud.

Also, Ole's passes now are as accurate (or nearly ;) ) as David's.
 
Originally posted by thangtbt:
<strong>Who is better right-winger?

At this time, Norwegian man is more dangerous. More agile, usually drifts into centre of midfield, he makes more threats and creates many chances for Ruud.

Also, Ole's passes now are as accurate (or nearly ;) ) as David's.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Beckham at his best is still better than OGS - his game has more dimension. But a half-fit Beckham with his mind on Ingerlund can't match OGS at the moment.

It's up to Becks to regain his top form and this competition for his place in the team can only be good for him. I am sure he will prove up to the task. The ability to switch from one to the other and thus change the pace and style of the side will also be a key advantage once Becks is fully fit - and will make it far harder for the best European sides to isolate Becks on the wing as they have done in recent months.
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Originally posted by oscar74:
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Beckham at his best is still better than OGS - his game has more dimension. But a half-fit Beckham with his mind on Ingerlund can't match OGS at the moment.

It's up to Becks to regain his top form and this competition for his place in the team can only be good for him. I am sure he will prove up to the task. The ability to switch from one to the other and thus change the pace and style of the side will also be a key advantage once Becks is fully fit - and will make it far harder for the best European sides to isolate Becks on the wing as they have done in recent months.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Agree. We just don't have anyone to challenge Beckham for the RM place for many years now. With Ole compete for this place, it can only make Beckham work harder and then the whole team will be benefited.
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Originally posted by oscar74:
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and will make it far harder for the best European sides to isolate Becks on the wing as they have done in recent months.</strong><hr></blockquote>

dont agree. We've lost a good source of goal assists in the last year-year and a half because of Beckhams continued insistence to drift inside. Whether hes been told to do this or not i dont know, but id prefer to see him stay out wide on the right where he can hurt teams more.
Thats why ive been very pleased with Oles contribution there, he hugs the touchline and gets some great crosses in. Its not co-incidence that United have been playing better since, the midfield isnt as congested and we finally have an outlet to the wings again.
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Originally posted by golden_blunder:
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dont agree. We've lost a good source of goal assists in the last year-year and a half because of Beckhams continued insistence to drift inside. Whether hes been told to do this or not i dont know, but id prefer to see him stay out wide on the right where he can hurt teams more.
Thats why ive been very pleased with Oles contribution there, he hugs the touchline and gets some great crosses in. Its not co-incidence that United have been playing better since, the midfield isnt as congested and we finally have an outlet to the wings again.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Quite right.
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Originally posted by golden_blunder:
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dont agree. We've lost a good source of goal assists in the last year-year and a half because of Beckhams continued insistence to drift inside. Whether hes been told to do this or not i dont know, but id prefer to see him stay out wide on the right where he can hurt teams more.
Thats why ive been very pleased with Oles contribution there, he hugs the touchline and gets some great crosses in. Its not co-incidence that United have been playing better since, the midfield isnt as congested and we finally have an outlet to the wings again.</strong><hr></blockquote>

plus, Ole has more pace than Becks in the right wing IMO and his accurate crosses are as near as Becks' (in his top form) if not better!

I would start with Ole and sit Becks out at least in the coming two games and put Becks on later only if necessary.
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Originally posted by golden_blunder:
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dont agree. We've lost a good source of goal assists in the last year-year and a half because of Beckhams continued insistence to drift inside. Whether hes been told to do this or not i dont know, but id prefer to see him stay out wide on the right where he can hurt teams more.
Thats why ive been very pleased with Oles contribution there, he hugs the touchline and gets some great crosses in. Its not co-incidence that United have been playing better since, the midfield isnt as congested and we finally have an outlet to the wings again.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Guess I didn't explain myself well - I meant that in a situation in which we started Becks and he was having one of his less effective displays we no would have the option of changing the formation with putting OGS on the wing - changing both the shape and pace of the team. This ability to shift gears and formations is often the key to top flight succsess.
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Ole knows instinctively the kind of crosses which will expose defenders and cause most damage in the box. He's fought for the ball well upfield - quite a few of the recent goals have come from an Ole interception way into the opposition half.

Becks is still the man, no doubt, he's the more rounded player, and Ole really should be in the box where he's more dangerous than ever. But it has always been a mistake to break up a winning team . Becks needs to earn back his place, and most important of all, prove that he's fit.
 
Ole knows instinctively the kind of crosses which will expose defenders and cause most damage in the box. He's fought for the ball well upfield - quite a few of the recent goals have come from an Ole interception way into the opposition half.

Becks is still the man, no doubt, he's the more rounded player, and Ole really should be in the box where he's more dangerous than ever. But it has always been a mistake to break up a winning team . Becks needs to earn back his place, and most important of all, prove that he's fit.
 
Originally posted by golden_blunder:
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..., but id prefer to see him stay out wide on the right where he can hurt teams more.
Thats why ive been very pleased with Oles contribution there, he hugs the touchline and gets some great crosses in. ...</strong><hr></blockquote>

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No, I myself prefer the 2 wingers put more efforts in central acres. We usually lost the midfield when confronting tough opponents because 2 wingers were too far in sides, with a little or no involvement in midfield battles.

It may be a trend of modern tactics, when wing-backs now tend to join the attack. Last season, Silvestre sometimes salvaged effectively spaces left by Giggs, right? <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
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United play their best football with 2 wingers staying out wide and getting crosses in. Nothing worse than being under pressure, looking up to see an outlet and theres no-one out wide.
Also it puts more pressure on Ruud with defenders, when the wingers dont stretch the fullbacks out wide. If we play through the middle sometimes Ruud ends up with 3 men on him.
If United get back to stretching the game as they do best, then we shouldnt have to worry about what the other team does.
 
What United can least do at the moment is get too cocky and complacent.
We're in form with the team we have at the moment, so we should just carry on and leave things be.
Becks may have a superstar profile, but he knows the score. He's warmed the bench before, he knows it's all about the squad and what's best for the team.
Ole has done fantastic on the right wing. This is not a problem. On the contrary, it's exactly we what we needed.
Becks may have a new hairstyle he's itching to parade before the media and his adoring fan club but he'll just have to wait.
To be fair to Beckham in the past, he has never complained about being benched. And come what may he'll get his 20 mins against West Ham anyway.
The thing is, would Ole prove to be any better than Beckham on the right wing in the long term?
Tough call.
Solskjaer's quality of crossing from the right in recent games has undoubtedly been a revelation: the comparison is not misplaced, Beckham at his best indeed.
The thing is, Beckham of late hasn't been at his best. He has played OK for United this season, give him credit, he's scored goals...but, I still wouldn't start him against West Ham.
Veron and Scholsey seem to have an understanding. Ole is flying at the moment. Even Giggsy seemed to recapture some kind of form against Deport, and P. Nev has made the holding midfield spot his own of late.
Like the old adage says; if it ain't broken don't fix it.
On current form you couldn't even really complain if Keano,Rio or Blanc didn't get back in the side, nevermind Becks.
So yes, no reason not to stick with Ole ahead of the mullet-haired one.
 
I think Becks will get the nod for the right wing role.
Why? because as good Ole is on the right, United needed him more in the striker role.
Now we only have 3 first team strikers, Ole, Ruud, and Diego.
If one got injured then we would have a major problem upfront.
Being rested probably good for Becks, it happened last season, and he played great when he return. Remember the first goal against Depor at Riazor?
However, I hope that seeing Ole played like that give Becks the perfect boost to raised his game.
 
I think that OGS has been one of the reasons for our good form of late, Beckham has been tending to drift inside and outside and ends up doing neither effectively, he was far better when he stuck out wide and provided alot of goal assists, something that OGS is doing far more effectively than Becks has for ta yr and a half. I say leave Becks on the bench and let OGS continue!
 
becks should watch ole work that wing. he beats more ppl with the ball at his feet than does becks. has better ball control and can head better. free kicks advantage becks.
 
Originally posted by mu77:
<strong>becks should watch ole work that wing. he beats more ppl with the ball at his feet than does becks. has better ball control and can head better. free kicks advantage becks.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Plus Becks in second half today started wandering again and diluted Veron's role.
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An idea - could Becks convert to being a striker ? At times he was playing that role yesterday (Hammers) and seemed to enjoy it. I'm not talking about oldfashioned centreforward but allround central attacker.
 
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