Beckham Suspended

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Bex is suspended for the game against City after picking up his 5th booking. So with no Keane, Butt or Beckham for the derby, there will be limited midfield options.
that must mean 4-4-2 now surely.
 
It shouldn't be too much of a problem with RVN back. We can play:

-------------------- Barthez ---------------------

--- GNev ------ Rio -------- O'Shea ----- Silv ---

--- Forlan ---- Scholes ---- Verón ----- Giggs ---

-------------- RVN ------------ Solskjaer --------

Looks like a nice team. <img src="graemlins/devil.gif" border="0" alt="[Devil]" />

As long as we don't get any more injuries! <img src="graemlins/nervous.gif" border="0" alt="[Nervous]" />
 
Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
<strong>It shouldn't be too much of a problem with RVN back. We can play:

-------------------- Barthez ---------------------

--- GNev ------ Rio -------- O'Shea ----- Silv ---

--- Forlan ---- Scholes ---- Verón ----- Giggs ---

-------------- RVN ------------ Solskjaer --------

Looks like a nice team. <img src="graemlins/devil.gif" border="0" alt="[Devil]" />

As long as we don't get any more injuries! <img src="graemlins/nervous.gif" border="0" alt="[Nervous]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

agreed with your line-up but with fortune replacing beckham.
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Originally posted by pjaya:
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agreed with your line-up but with fortune replacing beckham.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I never suggested him as I've never seen him play on the right. I would therefore be more comfortable putting him on the left and Giggs in the Beckham position.
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Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
<strong>It shouldn't be too much of a problem with RVN back. We can play:

-------------------- Barthez ---------------------

--- GNev ------ Rio -------- O'Shea ----- Silv ---

--- Forlan ---- Scholes ---- Verón ----- Giggs ---

-------------- RVN ------------ Solskjaer --------

Looks like a nice team. <img src="graemlins/devil.gif" border="0" alt="[Devil]" />

As long as we don't get any more injuries! <img src="graemlins/nervous.gif" border="0" alt="[Nervous]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

Well let's hope the opposition gives us plenty of time on the ball, like those nice chaps in the Champions League.

That looks a powder puff midfield - only Scholes of that lot can keep the ball under pressure, and none of them can tackle.

We've got some scrapping sides to face over the next few weeks.

When the going gets tough.....
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Originally posted by arnie sidebottom:
<strong>That looks a powder puff midfield - only Scholes of that lot can keep the ball under pressure, and none of them can tackle.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I agree to a certain extent, but with RVN (very good holder of the ball) back, the midfield could play a little deeper, Verón in particular. Also, the two centre backs I suggested are very good tacklers and could push up. There is no other solution, and it will work. Beckham isn't a very good tackler either, so it's no different from the situation over the last few weeks.
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Heres mine.

---------------barthez----------------

g.nev-----Rio--------Blanc---------Silvestre

ole--------scholesy-----veron-----fortune----

---------------giggs-------rvn---------------
 
Our resources are being pushed to the limit. It's a real blow not to have Becks, Roy and Nicky for the Derby not just because they are great players but because they were made for the Derby. They would have loved to put one over City. Now our midfield lacks bite, and it leaves me a tad worried over how we will do against Pool/Arse/Toon over the next few weeks.
 
Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
<strong>

I never suggested him as I've never seen him play on the right. I would therefore be more comfortable putting him on the left and Giggs in the Beckham position.</strong><hr></blockquote>

hmmm how about this?
-------------------- Barthez ---------------------

--- GNev ------ Rio -------- O'Shea ----- Silv ---

-------------------- Veron -----------------------

-------Solskjaer--- Scholes ----- Giggs ----------

-------------- RVN ------------ Forlan -----------
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Originally posted by manuman:
<strong>Heres mine.

---------------barthez----------------

g.nev-----Rio--------Blanc---------Silvestre

ole--------scholesy-----veron-----fortune----

---------------giggs-------rvn---------------</strong><hr></blockquote>

Put Forlan in on the right, as I think Ole plays better on the left. But either way sounds good.

Or you could try something really novel - Forlan on the right, Giggs on the left, and Ruud and Ole up front.
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Originally posted by Livvie20:
<strong>Or you could try something really novel - Forlan on the right, Giggs on the left, and Ruud and Ole up front.</strong><hr></blockquote>

That's what I said! :)
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Originally posted by Livvie20:
<strong>

Put Forlan in on the right, as I think Ole plays better on the left. But either way sounds good.

Or you could try something really novel - Forlan on the right, Giggs on the left, and Ruud and Ole up front.</strong><hr></blockquote>

No, you can't do that! Too many players playing in their natural position. :)
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Originally posted by pjaya:
<strong>

hmmm how about this?
-------------------- Barthez ---------------------

--- GNev ------ Rio -------- O'Shea ----- Silv ---

-------------------- Veron -----------------------

-------Solskjaer--- Scholes ----- Giggs ----------

-------------- RVN ------------ Forlan -----------</strong><hr></blockquote>

Looks good, dont think SAF will adopt to that tho.
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Originally posted by pjaya:
<strong>

hmmm how about this?
-------------------- Barthez ---------------------

--- GNev ------ Rio -------- O'Shea ----- Silv ---

-------------------- Veron -----------------------

-------Solskjaer--- Scholes ----- Giggs ----------

-------------- RVN ------------ Forlan -----------</strong><hr></blockquote>

Perfect, just a little play on a 4-4-2. That's all 4-4-1-1 is as well after all. For me, there are only three formations in football. 4-4-2, 4-3-3, 5-3-2. Anything else is a tinkering of 4-4-2 IMO.
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Tell me please lads what the rules about yellow cards in the EPL are. Haven’t never read them. As I understand you should miss one game after 5th card. So what’s about 6th, 7th etc?
 
Originally posted by Veedey:
<strong>Tell me please lads what are rules about yellow cards in the EPL. Haven’t never read them. As I understand you should miss one game after 5th card. So what’s about 6th, 7th etc?</strong><hr></blockquote>

I think that it wipes the slate clean, so you need another 5 yellows to get another suspension.
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Originally posted by Red15:
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No, you can't do that! Too many players playing in their natural position. :) </strong><hr></blockquote>

Good God yes. Sorry!
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Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
<strong>

Perfect, just a little play on a 4-4-2. That's all 4-4-1-1 is as well after all. For me, there are only three formations in football. 4-4-2, 4-3-3, 5-3-2. Anything else is a tinkering of 4-4-2 IMO.</strong><hr></blockquote>

i think the Dutch played with 3-4-3 total football and were very successful in the 70's.

Personally i like 4-3-1-2 very much also. We can utilize the full backs to the fullest and at the same time keep the midfield very tight. With 2 forwards we have a lot of firing power. The only problems are maybe a weak defence and the fullbacks must be extra effective.

This plan would never work at United because of Giggs and Becks. They are excellent on the wings, so that is why i never suggested this as an optimal plan for us.
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i think Phil will cover in the centre of midfield, with Veron covering Beckham's role.
 
Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
<strong>It shouldn't be too much of a problem with RVN back. We can play:

-------------------- Barthez ---------------------

--- GNev ------ Rio -------- O'Shea ----- Silv ---

--- Forlan ---- Scholes ---- Verón ----- Giggs ---

-------------- RVN ------------ Solskjaer --------

Looks like a nice team. <img src="graemlins/devil.gif" border="0" alt="[Devil]" />

As long as we don't get any more injuries! <img src="graemlins/nervous.gif" border="0" alt="[Nervous]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

excellent read into the situation, forlan will finally get a show in his favourite position. Although i still feel SAF will prefer Blanc over O'Shea.

IMO if SAF sticks with 4-5-1 then Chadwick and Phil will make appearances in midfield along with Scholes, Veron and Giggs.

How come people are so against Blanc btw? I think his experience is priceless.
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