Well... David Beckham had done it again, putting 110% effort for England but hardly 50% for United. Whats wrong with him? Or did UNITED failed to fully utilized his abilities? From what i had watch from yesterday, i see a different Beckham from that of UNITED's Beckham. What are your views on this?
I didn't really see England's match so I won't talk tactics.
But anyone who says Beckham doesn't give his all to United is nuts.
But anyone who says Beckham doesn't give his all to United is nuts.
I don't think that it is that Beckham plays any more or less for United and England, it's just that he is asked to be a different player. For England, he has to be THE man. They need him to be. While for United he is an integral part but with the players in the squad he doesnt always have to be superman. To me, besides Keano, he shows the most passion in the squad during games.
ouch ...those tackles ...is there a more petulant aspect coming into is game , or is the word committment...either way he was lucky to stay on the pitch Sat
I was just saying that he was not as influenzial for UNITED compared to England. When was the last time he got us a draw or a win single-handedly? And i must also add that Veron had the same problem too, but we can say Veron's not suited to the English game, but Beckham??? <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
Originally posted by TOD:
<strong>I was just saying that he was not as influenzial for UNITED compared to England. When was the last time he got us a draw or a win single-handedly? And i must also add that Veron had the same problem too, but we can say Veron's not suited to the English game, but Beckham???</strong><hr></blockquote>
Veron doesn't have the same problem as you think. Veron doesn't play well for Argentina either. i believe he was among the players that caused argentina to flop in the WC.
Like i said TOD, becks was voted man of the match for us against everton. we can't blame the man for being man-marked because he's good.
Has anyone notice that our oppositions have been giving us less free kicks on the edge of the penalty box lately? I think becks won't get too many freekicks this year. it's sad.
anyway, class players will always be class players.
I believe strongly that both becks and veron will find their touches and take us to glory!!
I believe strongly that both becks and veron will find their touches and take us to glory!!
Seems to me Becks has different roles playing for England and MU. For England he is The Man, the Maradona, with instructions to lead from the front and make it happen. For MU he is a right half who is only too happy to point out the Roy Kean is the club captain. Other guys like Giggs, Scholes, RVN are there to work the miracles, Becks is there to help them happen. The man's discipline and professionalism have been fantastic even on the days things haven't worked for him.
ive also notice he had not been putting in the crosses lately, he looks to me that he tries to be an all-rounded player, which he isn't not. Beckham is a special player, mainly because of his crossing, and if he does'nt do what he does best, he will be like any other player in the pitch, as simple as that. Look at the way Becks perform during the TREBLE season, firing crosses from the right all the time, no dribbling, no dilly dally keep ball, no looking for foul near the box, just simple one time cross, and it usually ends up with a goal.
I agree with you on that Beckham is not as influencial when playing for United, but Beckham still gets a lot of ball during the United games. I am one of those who feel he's not doing what he's best at. He keeps trying new things. Maybe it's good individually for his own improvement in the game, but it could end up hurting us in terms of scoreline.
I believe he's still giving 100% to all the matches we play, but he's also not willing to finish his career as simply the passer of the ball. He wants to do other things... become as influencial as Zidane, Rivaldo and maybe Cryuff... he wants to be a more complete player... can't blame him, but still can't feel like he's benefitting the team at the moment. Maybe his improved skills will help us in a bit of time when he's really improved in the area he feels he needs work in.
I believe he's still giving 100% to all the matches we play, but he's also not willing to finish his career as simply the passer of the ball. He wants to do other things... become as influencial as Zidane, Rivaldo and maybe Cryuff... he wants to be a more complete player... can't blame him, but still can't feel like he's benefitting the team at the moment. Maybe his improved skills will help us in a bit of time when he's really improved in the area he feels he needs work in.
The same critisism is often labelled at Owen, as it looks like he is putting more in for England and less for Liverpool. I don't know why this is, obviously all players should and i assume would put in 100% for whichever team the play for.
Beckham for England reminds me of Keano, the same determination, never say die, and a bit of the devil about him.
Shame he doesn't show it for United, looking at his performances for the two, u would think England were paying him 100k a week to play and playing for free at United.
OK...lets not argue about this anymore, the best way to prove it is in the stats, is there any statistians out or anybody knows how many assist has he made for England and for UNITED in the past 2 years? <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
Dont think England have played as much as united over the last 2 years!!
I think he does lift his game for England. He certainly seems more up for it anyway.
Originally posted by TOD:
<strong>OK...lets not argue about this anymore, the best way to prove it is in the stats, is there any statistians out or anybody knows how many assist has he made for England and for UNITED in the past 2 years?
football isn't about stats.