"Barthez slams Ricardo" rubbish

[Elfie]

Please don't believe that "Barthez slams Ricardo" crap that you will read everywhere. Alledgedly, Fab would have told the News of the World that Ricardo couldn't challenge him and that those who said that he wasn't at his best talked rubbish.

First, Fab never speaks to the British press, particularly to a rag like the News of the World.
Secondly, it's once again an interview (in fact, a press conference given before France Slovenia) distorted by the British press (The Independant gave an honest translation of this interview last week).

No wonder why most of the French players are viewed as "arrogant" with dishonest translations like that. Frankly, it makes me angry ! Fab would never criticize a teammate like this.

<a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/story.jsp?story=344243" target="_blank">Independant</a>

 

[great_se7en]

Lol, it's crazy isn't it? Why don't the tabloids just invent interviews? Surely then they could stop this pretense of being even vaguely credible and give us some really juicy stuff!!

"Beckham admits to homosexual affair with Giggs and Fergie's prize winning horse"

They'd love that! <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />

 

[Livvie]

Originally posted by great_se7en:
<strong>Lol, it's crazy isn't it? Why don't the tabloids just invent interviews? Surely then they could stop this pretense of being even vaguely credible and give us some really juicy stuff!!

"Beckham admits to homosexual affair with Giggs and Fergie's prize winning horse"

<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

That's too ridiculous. Becks wouldn't cheat on Giggs.

 

[Elfie]

It reminds me the "Figo slams Becks" affair. What makes me angry is that you can read everywhere this "pseudo interview" everywhere in sites like Teamtalk and that people will believe it.

 

[SPACEY]

The News of the World is full of rubbish. It seems they don't have anything better to do than make up stories, especially about Manchester United players

 

[RUnited]

where would they get these kinds of news if there isn't any truth in it?

i never get how the tabloids work,...

isn't it true that these papers have people under their pay rolls who know superstars such as Barthez, and whatever Barthez says in private maybe published through these unknown sources or "friends" of the footballers.

please explain.

 

[kf]

Originally posted by RUnited:
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i never get how the tabloids work,...
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Easy really. They make stuff up.

Incidently, the Becks/Giggs/Rock of Gibraltar story is in the People today...

 

[RUnited]

Originally posted by kf:
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Easy really. They make stuff up.

Incidently, the Becks/Giggs/Rock of Gibraltar story is in the People today...</strong><hr></blockquote>

i think it will really hurt the players' confidence if they buy into this.. esp Ricardo.. poor lad, hasn't even got a game and already people doubt his abilities.

 

[Elfie]

Originally posted by RUnited:
<strong>where would they get these kinds of news if there isn't any truth in it?

i never get how the tabloids work,...

isn't it true that these papers have people under their pay rolls who know superstars such as Barthez, and whatever Barthez says in private maybe published through these unknown sources or "friends" of the footballers.

please explain.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I've read that the British rags paid someone to translate the interviws given by French players to the French press. They take the sentences that interest them and distort them to make them appear scandalous.

So when Barthez says "I don't care about who's behind me, I concentrate on my own game like I've always done" it becomes something like "I don't rate Ricardo, he can't challenge me and United shouldn't have bought him".

When he says "I had difficult times last year but I've come through and I don't care about critics because I'm my biggest critic" it becomes "people who says I'm not at my best talk rubbish". This sentence makes him appear as someone very arrogant but he hadn't pronounced it.

 

[Elfie]

Originally posted by RUnited:
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i think it will really hurt the players' confidence if they buy into this.. esp Ricardo.. poor lad, hasn't even got a game and already people doubt his abilities.</strong><hr></blockquote>

If he believes it it could cause problems between Ricardo and Barthez. But I don't think he will believe it, they speak to each other every day as they train together. Ricardo will probably play vs Haifa next Tuesday.

 

[RUnited]

Originally posted by Elfie:
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If he believes it it could cause problems between Ricardo and Barthez. But I don't think he will believe it, they speak to each other every day as they train together. Ricardo will probably play vs Haifa next Tuesday.</strong><hr></blockquote>

hopefully he will play. i think barthez needs to know he's not an automatic number 1. We've lacked the push in the goalkeeping area for quite sometime now. But Barthez seemed to have motivated himself to play better recently so it's good.

 

[Elfie]

Originally posted by RUnited:
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i think barthez needs to know he's not an automatic number 1. </strong><hr></blockquote>

He knows it ! You see, you believe what you read.Anyway I don't see why he should be dropped this year, he has played well.

 

[RUnited]

Originally posted by Elfie:
<strong>

He knows it ! You see, you believe what you read.Anyway I don't see why he should be dropped this year, he has played well.</strong><hr></blockquote>

that's why i said it wouldn't be nice if ricardo believed the news. Because these news do confuse overseas fans like us very often. Because:

1. News come out about players ditching their teammates.

2. There is never an update available to overseas fans regarding whether the story has been cleared. Even if this is the case, it's very rarely.

 

[kf]

Look, guys, the journos write stories to sell papers and progress their own career. Many of them know nothing about football and care less. Stories that sell papers tend to be sensational. So if they haven't got anything sensational thats true they make it up either by complete fabrication or by twisting some set of unrelated truths. This is particularly true of the Sundays 'cos they get only one shot a week. For example, the "Veron is crap and can't live with the premiership" nonsense was started by a Times journo who now writes for the Mirror. He kept it up in all his reports last season even to the extent of saying "a suprisingly good game for Veron" when he had a blinder. His agenda was to get to a better paid job at the Mirror and it worked plus a dose of being bitter and twisted because SAF treats the journos like the scum they are.

Don't beleive a word and you won't be far wrong!

 

[RUnited]

Originally posted by kf:
<strong>Look, guys, the journos write stories to sell papers and progress their own career. Many of them know nothing about football and care less. Stories that sell papers tend to be sensational. So if they haven't got anything sensational thats true they make it up either by complete fabrication or by twisting some set of unrelated truths. This is particularly true of the Sundays 'cos they get only one shot a week. For example, the "Veron is crap and can't live with the premiership" nonsense was started by a Times journo who now writes for the Mirror. He kept it up in all his reports last season even to the extent of saying "a suprisingly good game for Veron" when he had a blinder. His agenda was to get to a better paid job at the Mirror and it worked plus a dose of being bitter and twisted because SAF treats the journos like the scum they are.

Don't beleive a word and you won't be far wrong!</strong><hr></blockquote>

surely there must be some who do honest living by writing stories they believe in...

i feel sorry for these hard working journos who get stereotyped because others in their fields spoil the name.

And to be honest, maybe, just maybe, that journo you are talkin about really do believe Veron is overrated. couldn't he have progressed in his career because of his dedication to his job?

and i am very sure he made fans with the scoushit and the arse fans more or less with his articles... so the other teams' fans could be saying we are biased when we say stories about United are always bullshit...

do you get my drift?

i am not trying to disagree with you in anyway as i do believe what you said had very good points.. but maybe we could see things from two sides...

i live in a house where the nextdoor neighbours are liverpool fans. My brother is an Arsenal fan. My dad is a Wolves fan. so the diversity (adversity?) we get here do give me different views when come to articles that slam certain players or certain teams. We never discuss how some journos are a-holes - because suppose veron gets slammed, the other teams' fans will immediately get behind that journo/commentator and his remarks.

 

[kf]

Originally posted by RUnited:
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surely there must be some who do honest living by writing stories they believe in...

</strong><hr></blockquote>

Nope. They're there to sell papers. They'll write whatever sells papers. And it's not just about United, any other team that they can get an audience for, any other topic - politics, Royals, celebs, bloody reality TV, Will fecking Young, it's all bollox.