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What part of Manchester do you think is the traditional stronghold for United support?
Salford has always been massively Red with the majority of the population supporting United.
Collyhurst maybe? Big Red area, especially with Stiles and Kidd coming from there, as well as Remi Moses from next door in Miles Platting.
There's obviously support for United all over Manchester (despite what the Blues say) but where's the support strongest???
Discuss
 
Johnno said:
What part of Manchester do you think is the traditional stronghold for United support?
Salford has always been massively Red with the majority of the population supporting United.
Collyhurst maybe? Big Red area, especially with Stiles and Kidd coming from there, as well as Remi Moses from next door in Miles Platting.
There's obviously support for United all over Manchester (despite what the Blues say) but where's the support strongest???
Discuss
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You're asking that question on the caf...

:D

You're not asking for much are you...

( and I would say Sale, Northenden and that area would be one of the hotbeds of Uniteds support.
 
Yeah - the whole stretch down the A56 through Sale and Alty is mainly Red - that's where I grew up. Head East from there and there's a bit of a gap round the M56 and airport, and then it turns to Stockport Blue.
Mind you, I'm probably moving to somewhere like Disley, out on the A6 in a while, so I'm hoping there's still a fair few reds out that way!
 
fredthered said:
( and I would say Sale, Northenden and that area would be one of the hotbeds of Uniteds support.
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My neck of the woods! :D
 
Johnno said:
What part of Manchester do you think is the traditional stronghold for United support?
Salford has always been massively Red with the majority of the population supporting United.
Collyhurst maybe? Big Red area, especially with Stiles and Kidd coming from there, as well as Remi Moses from next door in Miles Platting.
There's obviously support for United all over Manchester (despite what the Blues say) but where's the support strongest???
Discuss
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Red - generally the west (and centre). Places like Cheetham Hill, Chorlton, Prestwich, Whitefield, Swinton, Eccles, Broughton, Stretford, Crumpsall, Blackley, Miles Platting, Sale. Blue areas tend spread out from the centre to the east towards Oldham(More city fans in Oldham than any other club, although United have big following there and all), areas such as Burnage, Moss Side, Clayton etc. They've also got massive following around Stockport, places such as Heaton Mersey.
 
Spoony said:
Red - generally the west (and centre). Places like Cheetham Hill, Chorlton, Prestwich, Whitefield, Swinton, Eccles, Broughton, Stretford, Crumpsall, Blackley, Miles Platting, Sale. Blue areas tend spread out from the centre to the east towards Oldham(More city fans in Oldham than any other club, although United have big following there and all), areas such as Burnage, Moss Side, Clayton etc. They've also got massive following around Stockport, places such as Heaton Mersey.
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Now if you come from Manchester
You're sure to be a blue
Levershulme, collyhurst, Salford Ancoats too
And if you still believe this you're nothing but a fool
Cos in the town of Manchester, Its Man United rule.

Forget your Bayern munichs
Madrid and Ajax too
Theres only one collossal team
They play in Lazer blue
They're gonna beat United like once upon a time
They're gonna conquer Europe like they did in sixty nine...
 
does anyone have any official stats that can dispell the argument that all fans in manchester support city?
 
Feed Me said:
does anyone have any official stats that can dispell the argument that all fans in manchester support city?
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I'd love to see survey results or something. In my school two thirds of the kids were United, one third city.
 
A1Dan said:
MEN did it a while ago. Try and search their archives?
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3:1, I think. Favouring Reds. Also, United shirt sales in Manchester, outnumber City shirt sales, by 4:1(MEN, I think). I've got the pdf that states we've got more STs in Manchester as well. I'll try to find it.
 
Spoony said:
3:1, I think. Favouring Reds. Also, United shirt sales in Manchester, outnumber City shirt sales, by 4:1(MEN, I think). I've got the pdf that states we've got more STs in Manchester as well. I'll try to find it.
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i feckng new it.

someone had told me about it a while back. i always hate the "no united fans in manchester argument"!
 
Feed Me said:
i feckng new it.

someone had told me about it a while back. i always hate the "no united fans in manchester argument"!
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It's always been obvious bollocks. To look at it coldly, how on earth would a team that never wins anything have more fans than one of the most succesful teams in the world? We're always being told that our fans are all glory hunters - so why on earth would the people of Manchester buck this trend?

Ultimately, it's just bad logic from City fans: Most City fans live in Manchester therefore most people in Manchester are City fans. Fortunately we have brains and can see the flaw in the argument!
 
A1Dan said:
We're always being told that our fans are all glory hunters - so why on earth would the people of Manchester buck this trend?
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Exactly. We've always had more fans, our attendances over the last 50-60 years gives a very strong indication. Where we've been averaging roughly over 50,000, City have been averaging in the 20s, over the same period. Ironically, the last two seasons(prior to this season) have been City's best ever in terms of attendance. But growing up as a kid, you'd see more Blues than you do now. . .which isn't surprising, as kids are attracted to glamour and success. Yes, even in Manchester!
 
Feed Me said:
i feckng new it.

someone had told me about it a while back. i always hate the "no united fans in manchester argument"!
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In my group of lads at school and in our teens etc, there were more Reds than Blues, but there were enough of them and we were all from Prestwich, Whitefield, some top end of Salford (Sedgley, Kersal, Broughton etc), but I can't stand when the Blues go on about having more fans than us, it's clear when you walk about town with all the kids wearing United shirts as opposed to the little Blues what the ratio is, plus all the boozers are hammered every United game whilst you'd have only a spattering of real Blue pubs
 
Alty is right up there. Most supporters here are United fans.
 
Johnno said:
What part of Manchester do you think is the traditional stronghold for United support?
Salford has always been massively Red with the majority of the population supporting United.
Collyhurst maybe? Big Red area, especially with Stiles and Kidd coming from there, as well as Remi Moses from next door in Miles Platting.
There's obviously support for United all over Manchester (despite what the Blues say) but where's the support strongest???
Discuss
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Salford, there is no competition here.
 
WeasteDevil said:
Salford, there is no competition here.
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...would have to agree with you on that one, gotta be 90% of the whole area supports United, every Salford lad I've ever known supported United, exept one but he played for City as a kid and had previousy supported the Reds.
 
I dont want to burst anyones bubble here, but Salford isnt MANCHESTER...
 
Johnno said:
In my group of lads at school and in our teens etc, there were more Reds than Blues, but there were enough of them and we were all from Prestwich, Whitefield, some top end of Salford (Sedgley, Kersal, Broughton etc), but I can't stand when the Blues go on about having more fans than us, it's clear when you walk about town with all the kids wearing United shirts as opposed to the little Blues what the ratio is, plus all the boozers are hammered every United game whilst you'd have only a spattering of real Blue pubs
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Its down purely to what you define as Manchester.

If you call the outlying boroughs Manchester then there are more reds than blues.

If you define Manchester as just the area within the City itself, then theres more blues than reds...
 
Nearly fell out with my mum over Salford, she just wouldn't believe me that it was it's own seperate City, thought I was winding her up.

Skewed perhaps because I'm still at Uni and most of my friends are still from there, and have come from all over the country (and stayed even when most have left), but I actually know very few Manc based United supporters
 
Brad_Cantona83 said:
Nearly fell out with my mum over Salford, she just wouldn't believe me that it was it's own seperate City, thought I was winding her up.

Skewed perhaps because I'm still at Uni and most of my friends are still from there, and have come from all over the country (and stayed even when most have left), but I actually know very few Manc based United supporters
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You are 100% right.

Salford is a City in its own right, and nothing at all to do with Manchester. So in effect Salfordians are OOTs...

If you are a true Mancunian you are more likely to be blue than red...
 
I'm not as certain as Fred is about the United vs City support split in Manchester itself, I certainly don't think there's much in it either way. Important to remember though that when we talk of Manc as the 3rd largest City in England, that's including the outer regions, in which case it would be a no contest in favour of United.

I think there was an analysis of match going supporters, where they found that more United fans came from a Manc postcode, but a greater proportion of the City attendence came from Manc. Doesn't tell you a lot, in fact I could have told you that without a study.
 
fredthered said:
Its down purely to what you define as Manchester.

If you call the outlying boroughs Manchester then there are more reds than blues.

If you define Manchester as just the area within the City itself, then theres more blues than reds...
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Fred, what's your basis on that theory, and where exactly do you live if you don't mind me asking?
 
fredthered said:
You are 100% right.

Salford is a City in its own right, and nothing at all to do with Manchester. So in effect Salfordians are OOTs...

If you are a true Mancunian you are more likely to be blue than red...
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that's a shit assessment as it's getting all technical, that's like saying United aren't from Manchester becasue TECHNICALLY they're in Stretford, Trafford Borough Council etc, so you're arguing like a City fan now. That's like saying Manchester Airport isn't Manchester, it's Cheshire etc.
Places like Whitefield, Prestwich, Stretford, Wythenshawe etc all use Manchester in their address whilst not being within the City of Manchester; that is a place that encircles the inner-city areas from Cheetham Hill down to top of Wythenshawe, and there's plenty of City fans in the Greater Manchester area, they're not all in Ardwick you know...
 
Johnno said:
that's a shit assessment as it's getting all technical, that's like saying United aren't from Manchester becasue TECHNICALLY they're in Stretford, Trafford Borough Council etc, so you're arguing like a City fan now. That's like saying Manchester Airport isn't Manchester, it's Cheshire etc.Places like Whitefield, Prestwich, Stretford, Wythenshawe etc all use Manchester in their address whilst not being within the City of Manchester; that is a place that encircles the inner-city areas from Cheetham Hill down to top of Wythenshawe, and there's plenty of City fans in the Greater Manchester area, they're not all in Ardwick you know...
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How the feck can it be getting Technical.

Salford ISNT in Manchester. Its a city in its own right.... So the City fans ( whether we like it or not ) are right in saying that people that come from Salford are NOT Mancunians...

If you read my posts, I said it depends on what you call "manchester". IF you add all the outlying boroughs then United will have a higher support level. But if you look at purely the CITY of Manchester then there will be more blues than reds. Simply because thats where their fecking ground was/is.

( and Manchester Airport ISNT in Manchester, any more than Heathrow, Gatwick or Stanstead are in London, or Birmingham airport is in Birmingham ).
 
fredthered said:
How the feck can it be getting Technical.

Salford ISNT in Manchester. Its a city in its own right.... So the City fans ( whether we like it or not ) are right in saying that people that come from Salford are NOT Mancunians...

If you read my posts, I said it depends on what you call "manchester". IF you add all the outlying boroughs then United will have a higher support level. But if you look at purely the CITY of Manchester then there will be more blues than reds. Simply because thats where their fecking ground was/is.

( and Manchester Airport ISNT in Manchester, any more than Heathrow, Gatwick or Stanstead are in London, or Birmingham airport is in Birmingham ).
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are you from Salford?
 
I accept your arguments about there being more blues in the City centre than reds Fred but would object to you saying true Mancunians. I was born in St Anne's (now an NCP) opposite the Palace Theatre on Oxford Road while my folks lived on London Road so am as Mancunain as they come. We only moved out to the burbs of Whitefield, Stockport and Bury because we had the brains and wherewithall to do so.

Let's face it from the late 60's until very recently the City centre was a complete shithole so is it any surprise that more city than united fans remained there, look at the football they've subjected themselves to over the same period and it confirms they're happy living with shit :smirk:
 
fredthered said:
I suppose Johno will try telling us thats Manchester too, now Glazers own United..
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I've got a map to that effect, made one night when our resident resident of Stockport was telling me to support my local club.

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As much as I would like to believe it, somehow it's just not the same. I go outside and it isn't a wonderfully cold and rainy 800 year old city in the North of the greatest country on Earth. It's an incredibly plastic and pre-fabricated city built mostly in the 1970s and 1980s.
 
fredthered said:
I suppose Johno will try telling us thats Manchester too, now Glazers own United..
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No I won't you clown, but I went to school in Salford and while people from Salford describe themselves as being from Salford to others in MAnchester, if they go overseas or whatever they tell people they come from Manchester.
I know in your day you described yourself as a Salfordian proudly, but these days it is incorporated into MANCHESTER and it's not as if Salford is as far away as Bolton which is also part of Greater Manchester, it's slap bang right on the city centre of Manchester with exactly the same accents as inner-city Mancunians, same dress sense, attitudes etc.
What you trying to preach to me about when I lived there and I know this shit? I lived a hundred yards back from Strangeways Prison, Bury New Road which was classed as Lower Broughton was twenty yards away although where I lived was classed as Manchester 8. There was no magic force field Fred, keeping us Mancs out away from the Salford kids, we freely crossed the road to play with them and went to same school etc.
I know there will be loads of lads here from Salford who may agree with you, but that's maybe an age thing and most Bury and Bolton, Stockport Wigan etc all feel the same, they don't wanna be classed as Manchester but guess what, you are so accept it
 
Bury Red said:
I accept your arguments about there being more blues in the City centre than reds Fred but would object to you saying true Mancunians. I was born in St Anne's (now an NCP) opposite the Palace Theatre on Oxford Road while my folks lived on London Road so am as Mancunain as they come. We only moved out to the burbs of Whitefield, Stockport and Bury because we had the brains and wherewithall to do so.

Let's face it from the late 60's until very recently the City centre was a complete shithole so is it any surprise that more city than united fans remained there, look at the football they've subjected themselves to over the same period and it confirms they're happy living with shit :smirk:
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You are a true mancunian. No disputing that.

But then again you had a lucky escape. I mean god. You even moved to Stockport. Were your parent trying to lead you astray and make you into a bluenose.

Just be happy with the fact your a true manc who got lucky..

:D
 
jasonrh said:
I've got a map to that effect, made one night when our resident resident of Stockport was telling me to support my local club.

atlanticmanc.jpg


As much as I would like to believe it, somehow it's just not the same. I go outside and it isn't a wonderfully cold and rainy 800 year old city in the North of the greatest country on Earth. It's an incredibly plastic and pre-fabricated city built mostly in the 1970s and 1980s.
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A resident of Stockport telling you to support your local team..

YCNMIU

:D :D
 
jasonrh said:
I've got a map to that effect, made one night when our resident resident of Stockport was telling me to support my local club.

atlanticmanc.jpg


As much as I would like to believe it, somehow it's just not the same. I go outside and it isn't a wonderfully cold and rainy 800 year old city in the North of the greatest country on Earth. It's an incredibly plastic and pre-fabricated city built mostly in the 1970s and 1980s.
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Don't listen to Fred mate, he's just a dick. Are you familiar with what he's on baout? It would be a bit like Minneapolis-St.Pauls in the US, while he's right in saying Salford is a seperate city, it's attached to Manchester and part of Greater Manchester
 
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