Arne Slot | manager

Klopper76 said:
He has. Our entire right side could look completely different next season.

I hope in this social media/fan channel age we’re prepared to give Slot come patience. I think he knows his stuff and could become a very successful manager for us.
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He's gonna win the league this season, obviously. Not giving him patience would be absolute madness. All things considered, he's done well.

But, I would expect the league to be far more competitive next season. It's been a really strange season where all the bigger clubs have generally been poor, and City have fallen off a cliff. I do think he's done a good job, but as per, there's been some totally OTT media hype, too. Only a week ago, there was talk of a treble, and plenty expected your lot to definitely get past PSG.
 
Klopper76 said:
Yeah agreed. Gravenberch and Szobozslai look knackered. Salah too a bit. Did he rely on a small number of players at your club?
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Yes very much so. Doesnt matter as much here though as half the league here are barely of a professional level.
 
FriedClams said:
I don’t think it’s a valid excuse, they played on Tuesday in the CL. Rangers played 120 mins on Thursday and dominated Celtic at their stadium today.
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It's not an excuse, I think it's a mistake. He used very few players for us as well, but in the Netherlands there is much less resistance (and fewer games).
 
Only have 1 post until midnight but that's all on him today.

I can excuse (but didn't want) Jota to play on Tuesday with how bad he's been this season. To play him again after another dreadful performance was inexcusable, even worse when you add in the almost as bad Díaz.

I have no idea why he abandoned the double 10 formation that served him well while Díaz and Jota were out of form/injured. The pair of them, and Slot's faith in them, have cost us two cups now.
 
Robbie Boy said:
He's gonna win the league this season, obviously. Not giving him patience would be absolute madness. All things considered, he's done well.

But, I would expect the league to be far more competitive next season. It's been a really strange season where all the bigger clubs have generally been poor, and City have fallen off a cliff. I do think he's done a good job, but as per, there's been some totally OTT media hype, too. Only a week ago, there was talk of a treble, and plenty expected your lot to definitely get past PSG.
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It looks to me that Man City has far more problems than Liverpool. Not to mention they will have some point deduction next year. Arsenal is not winning anything. “Next season things will be harder” is a myth. People said the same thing last year and wrote off Liverpool.

Next season is still for Liverpool to lose.
 
I find him so uncharismatic. Is he really that good of a manger or is the system Klopp left behind that made him good? Time will tell.
 
I’ve just had a look at their run in and it’s not easy at all. If Everton can take points off them on Wednesday night the collapse is on.
 
diarm said:
I’ve just had a look at their run in and it’s not easy at all. If Everton can take points off them on Wednesday night the collapse is on.
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They will be fine. 12 points lead with 9 games to go, they won't bottle this. They aren't going to lose 4/9 games all of a sudden. It's also no guarantee Arsenal will win all their remaining games.
 
Nole said:
They will be fine. 12 points lead with 9 games to go, they won't bottle this. They aren't going to lose 4/9 games all of a sudden. It's also no guarantee Arsenal will win all their remaining games.
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They’ve a run with Spurs, Arsenal, Chelsea, Brighton and their famously bogey side Palace to end the season. I could definitely see them lose a few of those.

You’re right though. This Arsenal side aren’t good enough to capitalise.
 
diarm said:
They’ve a run with Spurs, Arsenal, Chelsea, Brighton and their famously bogey side Palace to end the season. I could definitely see them lose a few of those.

You’re right though. This Arsenal side aren’t good enough to capitalise.
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We’ve lost one league game all season. Suddenly we’re going to lose four in nine?
 
Cutch said:
It's somehow gone unnoticed to me how badly they need a centre forward. Ridiculous how much Salah has carried the attack this season.
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Yeah we’re lacking there. Diaz and Jota are not good enough and Nunez is crap.
 
Nole said:
I find him so uncharismatic. Is he really that good of a manger or is the system Klopp left behind that made him good? Time will tell.
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Won 18 of their first 20 games in all competitions under him (lost one, drew one).

Won 12 of their next 20 games (lost three, drew five).

Won three, drawn one, lost three since then.
 
Klopper76 said:
We’ve lost one league game all season. Suddenly we’re going to lose four in nine?
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You won’t. I wouldn’t be surprised if Liverpool won all their remaining fixtures actually. No other competitions to distract and more recovery time
 
Alex99 said:
Won 18 of their first 20 games in all competitions under him (lost one, drew one).

Won 12 of their next 20 games (lost three, drew five).

Won three, drawn one, lost three since then.
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We’ve lost to Spurs, Plymouth, PSV, PSG, Newcastle since losing to Forest in September. All by one goal and two with fully rotated sides.

Not that bad.
 
Klopper76 said:
We’ve lost to Spurs, Plymouth, PSV, PSG, Newcastle since losing to Forest in September. All by one goal and two with fully rotated sides.

Not that bad.
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You're coasting to a league title and would require a collapse of monumental proportions to not get over the line, so yeah, not bad.

Point is more that Slot came in flying, and there's at least some argument that the more time he's had with the team and the further removed it gets from Klopp, the worse your results have gotten. Obviously tiredness will play a part too, as it's deeper into the season.

If Arsenal had managed to remotely keep pace, I'd put money on you bottling it after your recent form, but the gap's just too big now.
 
Alex99 said:
You're coasting to a league title and would require a collapse of monumental proportions to not get over the line, so yeah, not bad.

Point is more that Slot came in flying, and there's at least some argument that the more time he's had with the team and the further removed it gets from Klopp, the worse your results have gotten. Obviously tiredness will play a part too, as it's deeper into the season.

If Arsenal had managed to remotely keep pace, I'd put money on you bottling it after your recent form, but the gap's just too big now.
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I think it’s more to do with Slot relying on the same players too much. Our midfield legs have gone. Especially Gravenberch. The drop in quality from Salah is clear up top as well. We lost a big game player when Mane left and never replaced him.

I’d be worried about City chasing us but Arsenal have dropped off a level this season, even earlier on pre injury crisis. We’re still on course for a 90+ season which Arsenal haven’t done in the PL era I think?

That being said, I don’t think we’ll be anywhere near the title next season. This squad needs surgery.
 
diarm said:
They’ve a run with Spurs, Arsenal, Chelsea, Brighton and their famously bogey side Palace to end the season. I could definitely see them lose a few of those.

You’re right though. This Arsenal side aren’t good enough to capitalise.
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This Arsenal team pissed me off so much...if they had just kept their last two season forms, they would definitely win the title this season. Seems like they only raise their level against City.
 
Hes reaped the fruits of Klopps team and his tactics. He smart enough to leave it untouched. If they lose Salah and TAA then he will have to bring in players to suit what ever system or style he wants to play.

I dont think they can offload Nunez anytime soon. They bought him for about 80m+ and I doubt if anyone will pay half that now
 
Klopper76 said:
I think it’s more to do with Slot relying on the same players too much. Our midfield legs have gone. Especially Gravenberch. The drop in quality from Salah is clear up top as well. We lost a big game player when Mane left and never replaced him.

I’d be worried about City chasing us but Arsenal have dropped off a level this season, even earlier on pre injury crisis. We’re still on course for a 90+ season which Arsenal haven’t done in the PL era I think?

That being said, I don’t think we’ll be anywhere near the title next season. This squad needs surgery.
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It's less Arsenal's capacity to get 90+ points and more your capacity to drop off that pace if they were actually in the rear view mirror. There's no pressure, really, and I can't see Arsenal catching you even if you finish in the mid-80s for points.

I'd agree that fatigue is playing a large part.
 
Annoying that Newcastle showed yesterday how it's not that difficult to defend against their tactics. Stop the supply line to Salah and they'll go long ball or put hopeful crosses in from the left wing which you can head away all day long. They don't have a Bruno or an Odegaard who can come deep from the CBs and provide the creativity in the middle. Feels like so many other teams have been giving them an easy ride in the league this season.
 
Beating Newcastle in the final isn’t for every bald Dutch manager.
 
Gabriel Djemba-Bebe said:
Annoying that Newcastle showed yesterday how it's not that difficult to defend against their tactics. Stop the supply line to Salah and they'll go long ball or put hopeful crosses in from the left wing which you can head away all day long. They don't have a Bruno or an Odegaard who can come deep from the CBs and provide the creativity in the middle. Feels like so many other teams have been giving them an easy ride in the league this season.
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If it were that easy to stop us this season, more teams (better than Newcastle) would've done it. Yesterday was down to a mix of factors including Newcastle getting their tactics right and executing that plan well. This weeks results doesn't change how good we've been in the league this season.

It has shone a light on our squad weaknesses though. Robertson needs replacing, TAA is going, Salah might be off too, we're light in midfield and we need to refresh the forward line. We need a lot of work done on the squad in the summer.
 
Gabriel Djemba-Bebe said:
Annoying that Newcastle showed yesterday how it's not that difficult to defend against their tactics. Stop the supply line to Salah and they'll go long ball or put hopeful crosses in from the left wing which you can head away all day long. They don't have a Bruno or an Odegaard who can come deep from the CBs and provide the creativity in the middle. Feels like so many other teams have been giving them an easy ride in the league this season.
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They badly missed Trent. He is key to the long ball tactics.
 
Klopper76 said:
If it were that easy to stop us this season, more teams (better than Newcastle) would've done it. Yesterday was down to a mix of factors including Newcastle getting their tactics right and executing that plan well. This weeks results doesn't change how good we've been in the league this season.

It has shone a light on our squad weaknesses though. Robertson needs replacing, TAA is going, Salah might be off too, we're light in midfield and we need to refresh the forward line. We need a lot of work done on the squad in the summer.
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Well that's my point. Almost every time I've watched you this season, it has been a relatively even game which could've gone either way, that ends in a 2-0 or 3-0 Liverpool win due to Salah being an elite finisher compared to the opposition's forwards. Granted, you've seen more of Liverpool this season so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
 
Klopper76 said:
If it were that easy to stop us this season, more teams (better than Newcastle) would've done it. Yesterday was down to a mix of factors including Newcastle getting their tactics right and executing that plan well. This weeks results doesn't change how good we've been in the league this season.

It has shone a light on our squad weaknesses though. Robertson needs replacing, TAA is going, Salah might be off too, we're light in midfield and we need to refresh the forward line. We need a lot of work done on the squad in the summer.
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How do you think Arne will fair with a rebuild? And what would your targets be for next season?
 
Gabriel Djemba-Bebe said:
Well that's my point. Almost every time I've watched you this season, it has been a relatively even game which could've gone either way, that ends in a 2-0 or 3-0 Liverpool win due to Salah being an elite finisher compared to the opposition's forwards. Granted, you've seen more of Liverpool this season so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
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When you look at chances created in most of those games (xG etc.), we're out in front in a lot of them. We were better earlier in the season when we were controlling games well. We've had a few games where we've had to dig in (Wolves at home and Palace away are two examples of that) but we've been very good for the most part. Even the Forest game we lost, we had something like 10 shots by HT with Forest having 0, then lost the game in the second half. Played Fulham with 10 men for 75 minutes and should've won.

We've always been competitive in games this season, even when we've not necessarily played well. I think Slot's done well to lessen the amount of quality chances we concede as well (slowed us down a bit).

Where he's made a mistake is lack of rotation which is now hurting us. He should've given more time to players like Elliott, Chiesa, Endo etc. Our midfield looked gassed yesterday and is looking easier to play through.
DJ_21 said:
How do you think Arne will fair with a rebuild? And what would your targets be for next season?
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That's hard to answer right now. I would need to wait and see how we're looking at the start of next season. I can tell you that I don't expect us to challenge for the league. I actually think Arsenal are best placed to win it next season. Assuming we wrap up the league, Slot will have enough credit in the bank to be given time, even if we drop off a bit next season.
 
Klopper76 said:
That's hard to answer right now. I would need to wait and see how we're looking at the start of next season. I can tell you that I don't expect us to challenge for the league. I actually think Arsenal are best placed to win it next season. Assuming we wrap up the league, Slot will have enough credit in the bank to be given time, even if we drop off a bit next season.
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Fair enough. Next question… do you think your squad as a fatigue problem or a mentality problem as to why you seem to get knocked out of competitions late on in the season when the quad/treble is on? Few years ago everyone was talking about the quad for you and then you got knocked out of 3 out of 4 of them I think. And this season you could have had a treble with the carabao and CL.
 
DJ_21 said:
Fair enough. Next question… do you think your squad as a fatigue problem or a mentality problem as to why you seem to get knocked out of competitions late on in the season when the quad/treble is on? Few years ago everyone was talking about the quad for you and then you got knocked out of 3 out of 4 of them I think. And this season you could have had a treble with the carabao and CL.
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I think the issues surrounding the fatigue we've seen in 23/24 and this season are different. Last season we had a host of injuries that led to us having to play youth players in Premier League games. Salah also had AFCON. By the time everyone was back, the squad was knackered and physically started to drop off in March.

This season we've been better off in terms of squad fitness, but Slot has been reluctant to trust some of the fringe players. We've overplayed Gravenberch, Mac Allister and Szoboszlai, and now they're knackered. Diaz hasn't been rotated enough and Slot hasn't given enough minutes to players like Elliott, Endo, Chiesa. I think he doesn't trust them. I don't know why anyone would assume we were going to win the CL though, even if we got through PSG. Villa would have been manageable but then probably Madrid over two legs. There are sides on the other side of the draw who would beat us as well.

Just to be clear, there was no expectation from anyone associated with Liverpool that we were on for a treble/quad. It's been the league as a priority for most of the season. Anything else was a bonus. There was some talk about it last season after Klopp announced he was going, but that was daft. We did collapse last season. Going out of the FA Cup and Europa League in quick succession, and dropping off in the league. Again, injuries from earlier in the season impacted the squad imo.

The only other time we've been on for a quadruple was 21/22, and we were two games away from doing it (lost four games in all competitions all season).
 
Klopp finally leaves and they flail around, getting their third(?) choice manager but still happen to accidentally stumble on the one Dutch manager who doesn’t shit the bed in the exact season that almost every other team massively underperforms.

Jammy feckers.
 
Still waiting for my "correctly predicted Arne is the 2nd coming of Jesus" tagline.
 
In one sense they've pretty much been gifted the league, considering no other team can reach 80 points now, but on the other hand they might still get 94 points, which would have been enough in a lot of seasons.

Meh, it's obviously a meaningless title.
 
Solius said:
Klopp finally leaves and they flail around, getting their third(?) choice manager but still happen to accidentally stumble on the one Dutch manager who doesn’t shit the bed in the exact season that almost every other team massively underperforms.

Jammy feckers.
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Gary Neville said this without much evidence or challenge during one of his many low ebbs on Sky.

Amorim - I believe - was seen as a bad fit based on player personnel so was sounded out but don't think anything progressed. Alonso was the fashionable and 'obvious' choice but I don't know if talks were had. They secured Slot in April 2024 following several trips to Netherlands by club officials - which was relatively early so it doesn't indicate a last minute scramble or spending time with other candidates. Ultimately it doesn't really matter as Slot was a very strong appointment and a bit let field.
 
PickledRed said:
Gary Neville said this without much evidence or challenge during one of his many low ebbs on Sky.

Amorim - I believe - was seen as a bad fit based on player personnel so was sounded out but don't think anything progressed. Alonso was the fashionable and 'obvious' choice but I don't know if talks were had. They secured Slot in April 2024 following several trips to Netherlands by club officials - which was relatively early so it doesn't indicate a last minute scramble or spending time with other candidates. Ultimately it doesn't really matter as Slot was a very strong appointment and a bit let field.
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Based on nothing in particular, I think Alonso was first choice but he made it clear pretty much immediately that he wasn't going anywhere for this season.
 
We all thought the liverpool dominance was over when Klippy left, but this fecker comes in and wins the league in his first season :lol:

Incredible achievement!
 
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