Ralph ragnick was noted as being a great addition to united, but he is even doing worse than Ole. Ralph similiar to ETH seems to play high intelligence football and have a good philosophy. Will Ralph failure make fans more skeptical about ETH? What will ETH do differently than Ralph who is noted as the father as the pressing? if the players don't respect ETH, will the board actually provide enough funds to make a complete transformation? Are we going into next season with the same mistake we made this season? Will this cycle of wrong decision end?
Anyone more skeptical about ETH because of the failure of Ralf Ragnick?
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Do you have an alternative in mind?
Ralf is a poor manager. There is a reason he has never managed a top club. ETH is a risk but a risk worth taking.
FFS.
Why? Aren't these valid questions that needs to be asked?
Anyone know a manager who plays low intelligence football and have a shite philosophy for us next season?
Former Ajax managera (De Boer, Brosz) did not last a full season when they moved to more serious leagues. While i belive we should stay clear from Poch ETH hardly fills me with confidence. I would wait for Luis Enrique
RR is proving to be all talk and even now ETH has had a managerial career RR will only ever dream of so no I'm not worried
Let's bring Carrick-y back.
FFS
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Simone, mourinho, big sam for manager with unattractive philosophy or managers in the lower division who don't play high intelligence football
Enrique probably would have been my pick as well but we can't wait till 2023 before we appoint a manager
Will one of the best up and coming managers fail at United. Possibly, especailly if he is not properly supported.
Has it got anything to do with the failure of an interim manager? Of course not
How'd you reckon Jose would get on here?
De Boer also wasn’t that good at Ajax
Of the irony
But let me guess, you think Poch will do much much better despite him having a much more similar style to Ragnick than ETH
But let me guess, you think Poch will do much much better despite him having a much more similar style to Ragnick than ETH
He won us the treble of mickey mouse trophies
I see you're having a hard time getting past the fact we're not getting Poch.
Rangnick was a good coach over a decade ago. He's just past his sell by date and has been out of the coaching game for too long.
Brilliant. Perfect for us.
You're right. We should try to improve. We should get someone in at these player's levels.
Funny thing is Pochettino has more in common with Rangnick when it comes to Style of football who Amadeus would have wanted at United .
The whole thing is a sh*t show. Ten Hack has done nothing to deserve the United job. Another popularity choice rather than a wise one. Title winner in a pants league the same way De Boer was and we know what happened to him with Palace. Meanwhile we turn down the chance of Conte, a proven winner, who will actually do things with the shambles that is Spurs. Not hindsight ive always said that. That says it all for our club. Rudderless from top to bottom. And it doesn't end with the appointment of Ten Hack, im telling you. Nothing changes without a change at the top.
What it has shown is a manager needs the players on board and bought in to achieve anything. ETH should realise that the football side is only part of the battle. He needs to motivate these clowns or replace them with his own soldiers.
Ten Hag has a better European record than Conte with an inferior side.
Christ
I know the last decade has been traumatic but the insanity levels of some fans are through the roof. Getting pessimistic about a (still only potential, not even confirmed) manager who hasn’t even started yet is a new low.
Once I’m allowed to maybe I should start a new thread lamenting the possible downfall of our manager in the 2040/41 season and trying to bring everyone down into a suicidal mess
I know the last decade has been traumatic but the insanity levels of some fans are through the roof. Getting pessimistic about a (still only potential, not even confirmed) manager who hasn’t even started yet is a new low.
Once I’m allowed to maybe I should start a new thread lamenting the possible downfall of our manager in the 2040/41 season and trying to bring everyone down into a suicidal mess
The club made an admirable choice going with Ralf over Conte. It signaled we are ready to suffer short-term pain (although I am sure they didn't realize how bad things would get), for longer-term gain.
ETH or Poch would be logical next step following Ralf. I have a slight preference for ETH over Poch because I see Poch as a much better version of Ole; my fear is that he would lobby the club to hand Pogba a new contract, extend Rashford's contract, and overlook obvious deficiencies in Shaw's game, for example. I am also afraid that in his desperation for the job, he would bow to board demands on transfers and contracts. Lastly, he would be less likely to follow through on the complete reset Ralf has been arguing for.
ETH on the other hand is not beholden to any of these players, has a strong hand in dealing with the club before agreeing to become the next manager, and uncompromising vision of the team like Pep and Klopp.
To answer the question posed in this thread, I don't think Ralf's poorer than expected managerial reign is solely down to him - I think it's the players who are mostly to blame. ETH is more likely to get rid of these players than Poch. Therefore, I would expect, ETH to be a better manager for us in the longer-run, although Poch might get better results at the start of his reign.
ETH or Poch would be logical next step following Ralf. I have a slight preference for ETH over Poch because I see Poch as a much better version of Ole; my fear is that he would lobby the club to hand Pogba a new contract, extend Rashford's contract, and overlook obvious deficiencies in Shaw's game, for example. I am also afraid that in his desperation for the job, he would bow to board demands on transfers and contracts. Lastly, he would be less likely to follow through on the complete reset Ralf has been arguing for.
ETH on the other hand is not beholden to any of these players, has a strong hand in dealing with the club before agreeing to become the next manager, and uncompromising vision of the team like Pep and Klopp.
To answer the question posed in this thread, I don't think Ralf's poorer than expected managerial reign is solely down to him - I think it's the players who are mostly to blame. ETH is more likely to get rid of these players than Poch. Therefore, I would expect, ETH to be a better manager for us in the longer-run, although Poch might get better results at the start of his reign.
Ten Hag definitely has the feel of a “flavour of the month” hipsters choice. I don’t know who the right choice is but have some pretty serious reservations about whether Ten Hag is the right one.
Especially after our most recent hipsters choice is failing spectacularly and is still being defended and excused by the crowd who supported his appointment most vociferously.
His possession based “style” is at a complete contrast to our most recent full time manager, the squad we actually have and is also at odds with our hipsters choice interim. So, full rebuild on the way, 3 seasons grace and my sanity on the line for a gamble that, let’s be honest, most on here don’t actually know much about, given how little time most on here actually watch Ajax or the Dutch league.
We could bring back park SAF and this team would struggle. Bunch of wasters who want to see how many managers they can get sacked
We needed a full rebuild anyway. Any good manager would have rebuilt what was left…
Definitely flavour of the month. Has achieved zilch. There are a host of managers in the Prem who are doing it in the most competitive league in the world not the tin pot Eredivisie. Ten Hack will be the new Martin Jol. Also an Ajax.manager. And we have become the new Spurs
You're one of the biggest attention seekers this forum's ever seen.
If Ralf only had messi, mbappe and neymar in offense..
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