Antony or Ronaldo next season?

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So Dutch journalist Marcel van der Kraan has said that United would be more likely to sign Antony if they get Ronaldo's wages off the books. If this is indeed true would it be in the best interest of United to let Ronaldo go this summer?

Ronaldo or Antony next season, which would you prefer? Be good if a poll was added.
 
Ronaldo is an arse hole, doesn't want to be here, and he's 37

Antony wants to join us and has his best years ahead of him

Pretty easy choice really
 
Anthony is not a Ronaldo replacement. He will replace Greenwood. If Ronaldo goes we will still need a striker.
 
They have totally different roles?
Who is replacing Ronaldo?
Who is Ronaldo's replacement's backup? And the answer better not be Martial, because this is just sad.
 
Frank Grimes said:
So Dutch journalist Marcel van der Kraan has said that United would be more likely to sign Antony if they get Ronaldo's wages off the books. If this is indeed true would it be in the best interest of United to let Ronaldo go this summer?

Ronaldo or Antony next season, which would you prefer? Be good if a poll was added.
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Not signing another forward would be a massive gamble and reliance on youth or a miraculous return to form for Rashford or Martial.

This said we have Elanga (20), Garnacho (18) Hugill (18), McNeil (18), Shoretire (18).

Greenwood is 20 and has been a big feature the last 3 seasons, having broken through at 17.

If we have a view on the longer term, as we should. I'd take Antony and if we can't afford a striker I'd rotate the above.

It would very likely cost us top 4, but I'd argue if we don't get Antony then top 4 isn't happening anyway.

We aren't getting top 4 with just FDJ, Malacia (backup LB), Martinez (backup CB). This is probably why Ronaldo wants to go, or worse he thinks/ knows FDJ isn't happening, but further news today has alleviated a small element of that worry.

Either way though I don't buy it. Ronaldo is £25m a year in wages, but surely must generate a large chunk of that back in commercial value. He is also one hell of a player who should in theory keep up the standards and therefore up the value of our young players.

Also, additional rounds in cups, higher league position etc would all be far more likely with Ronaldo so on any metric I dont see sense in selling Ronaldo.

Its just an excuse by the Glazers to not spend the necessary money on Antony, but they know they have no choice if Ronaldo goes.

It just feels like a lame get out to not get Antony who we quite obviously need unless Amad or Pellestri are good enough and if they aren't why the hell did we spend approaching £50m on them. OK maybe not that given add ons likely not achieved, but either way we again surely need to trust in some of these talents given we aren't otherwise spending the £400-500m minimum we otherwise would need to spend to not rely on youth.
 
I know Antony plays in a different position than Ronaldo. The OP said nothing about him being a direct replacement.

Also I agree that we shouldn't have to lose Ronaldo to afford Antony. Personally I think if we lose Ronaldo we need to sign Antony and a 9.
 
Frank Grimes said:
So Dutch journalist Marcel van der Kraan has said that United would be more likely to sign Antony if they get Ronaldo's wages off the books. If this is indeed true would it be in the best interest of United to let Ronaldo go this summer?

Ronaldo or Antony next season, which would you prefer? Be good if a poll was added.
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So no striker next season then?
 
El Presidente said:
They have totally different roles?
Who is replacing Ronaldo?
Who is Ronaldo's replacement's backup? And the answer better not be Martial, because this is just sad.
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It won't be like for like -- the front 3 will revert back to what they were before Ronaldo -- flexi, interchangeable front 3. With Ronaldo being quite a static striker we were quite predictable. We will have more nimble and more 3rd man movements upfront.
 
sglowrider said:
It won't be like for like -- the front 3 will revert back to what they were before Ronaldo -- flexi, interchangeable front 3. With Ronaldo being quite a static striker we were quite predictable. We will have more nimble and more 3rd man movements upfront.
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Agreed.
 
I don't care. Whoever shows up come the beginning of the season, just want to see progress in style, results and seeing our players playing their heart out.

Ironically, that's probably more a question mark with players not named Ronaldo or Antony
 
I’d rather have both and get rid of
Bailey, Jones, Pereira, Telles, T Chong, B Williams £35M total
Plus Henderson, Amad, H Mejbri, E Laird others loan £5m in loan fees
That’s £40M extra to our £120M assuming

Antony -52M + (10M)
NDJ- 58M+ (10M)
T Malicia £13M (2M)
C Eriksen Free
And Or Dyballa - Free
L Martinez - £37M + (8)
S Romero - Free

So we would be spending £160M but with a commitment to spend another £30m subject to performance

Let’s be clear here this would be an amazing window and a squad looking like this ;
D De Gea, T Heaton , S Romero*(3)

D Dalot, AWB, R Varane, V Lindelof, L Martinez*, A Tuanzebe, H Maguire, T Malicia, L Shaw (9)

J Garner+, Fred, S Mctominay, FDJ*, DVB, Bruno, Zidane Iqbal+, C Eriksen*(8)

Antony*, F Pellistri+, Ronaldo, Rashford, Sancho, Elanga, Martial, Ganaucho+(8)

This is a true squad of 24 with 4 youth players promoted to cope with 5 subs and Europa league we will need 26/27 players minimum. If AWB and Martial do not improve then I can see us selling them
For about £40/50M together and we will look to get a new right back
And CF after the World Cup.
 
They don't even play at the same position. But the choice is simple. Antony has his best years ahead of him.
 
Odd choice. If Ronaldo stays then we don't need a RW as Elanga is suddenly good enough?
 
If you think about it Ronaldo's wages will be £26m next season.

In amortised transfer fees that's equivalent to signing a £75m player on a 5 year deal on £200k/week.
 
Maybe its the best of our club interest to let Ronaldo has his wishes. We all know that he really doesnt care much about United and its best we make a stop and start afresh with younger players.

Re strikers position, it really is much more about the style, system, and collective play rather than rely on Ronaldo to score goals. Goals will always be there for players to score if we create enough chances with new syatems and better collective plays.

It really just that the way we play last season is so erratic and disorganize to the point that us fans are afraid that when he leave there would be no one to score goals. But if we improve our plays and create enough chances then we will score. Lets be honest, more or less, with him starting, the play is not good enough and he doesnt offer much except score some goals and those are not enough because made us focus too much on him.
 
Frank Grimes said:
I know Antony plays in a different position than Ronaldo. The OP said nothing about him being a direct replacement.

Also I agree that we shouldn't have to lose Ronaldo to afford Antony. Personally I think if we lose Ronaldo we need to sign Antony and a 9.
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Yeah need 2 forward players if Ronaldo goes
 
amolbhatia50k said:
Odd choice. If Ronaldo stays then we don't need a RW as Elanga is suddenly good enough?
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This. The question Ronaldo or Antony is at best theoretical as they play in completely different positions. At the moment the question is, Tony or Ronnie?
 
Weird question. One wants to go and one wants to come, so the answer is obvious, but this just puts unfair pressure and expectations on Antony.
 
I would rather Ronaldo not be at the club then still be here September 1st, regardless of Antony.

I would rather Antony be here than not be here September 1st.

Though since money is an object and a real constraint, i would rather United signs a goalkeeper, benches De Gea, gets a loan winger (pulisic?), gets rid of Ronaldo, signs Morata, then goes back in for Antony next summer at a more reasonable cost.
 
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