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although this is probably bollocks des lynam showed report on the premiership tonite saying united were in for him.
Originally posted by Sambora:
<strong>anelka is class... shame about the temperment tho, but perhaps being left out of the wc for that reason will change him? 15m would seem okay, but not sure bout his wage demands.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Temperment? He's perfectly fine when the media aren't picking on him.
Originally posted by Candona:
<strong>I dont think he'd be very welcome in a United shirt...(from the reaction of this forum)
And I dont think he is the sort player we need.</strong><hr></blockquote>
i'd take him. we miss the pace of owen type player
Originally posted by mancred:
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i'd take him. we miss the pace of owen type player</strong><hr></blockquote>
Pace? we got Forlan and RVN! they are pacy!
we need someone who can make the impossible possible, someone with bags of creativity, good passing and good finishing. hmmm....sound like Ronaldo im talking about...
Originally posted by thumper:
<strong>Wouldn't be ideal but he does have pace and thats something we dont have at the moment. It woudl give us an "over the top" ball to play. I also reckon he would score bags for us but would him and Ruud be a good partership? </strong><hr></blockquote>
Will someone hold him down so I can hit him.
Originally posted by Candona:
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Pace? we got Forlan and RVN! they are pacy!
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IMO not sure that RVN is exactly pacy, he doesn't have great 'take-off' but is a powerful/muscular runner though, and once he gets going hes well balanced and hard to shift, and with that big frame he holds up the ball superbly.
Originally posted by Amir:
<strong>He's the sort of player we need, but not the player we need.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Bingo.
Originally posted by Livvie20:
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Will someone hold him down so I can hit him.
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I'm holding Livvie down instead.
Run thumper Run!!
Originally posted by mikhail:
<strong>And Duff.
Whoever said he's the sort of player United need, but not the player United need hit the nail on the head.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Well that still doesnt solve us needing that sort of player...
We need that speed option...RVN and Ole and Forlan as well are fast but they arent exactly "leaving defenders in their wake" type of players...thats why we need somebody like Anelka...if somebody can tame Anelka it'll be Fergie, dont you agree?
Ruud and Ole is all well and good but against stalwart fort-like defences we find it hard to break through...thats where blistering pace comes into play...trick offside traps...long balls to chase...great options to have in Europe against top class defending...
Ruud (Ole)
Henry (Forlan)
Would be the ideal combo though not possible...and those who think i'm forgetting Ole's ultra predatory instincts and frickin brilliant finishing are wrong...just depends on what type of play or team we're facing to decide which combo is most effective.
Thats why we need the speed...hence Anelka IMO is tempting but his personality put a spanner into everything.
Someone to play in the hole would also be nice ala Cantona and who better than Rivaldo...although a someone like Giggsy or Duff could also work beautifully well.
Well...in the end its all in Fergie and the PLC's hands...cant do much except rant about it in a forum...
Originally posted by Amir:
<strong>He's the sort of player we need, but not the player we need.</strong><hr></blockquote>
agreed!
Originally posted by dicko:
<strong>Cantona may be an example of 'bad boy come good' but Collymore and others are examples of 'bad boy got worse'. For each of the former there's ten of the latter. There are enough good, dedicated players out there to pick from so why sign a potential trouble maker?
The reason Anelka is cheap is because he's trouble. I shudder at the thought of Liverpool giving us the player to destroy team harmony.
Stories suggest there are a few minor cracks (newspapers exagerate) now, partly because of our supposedly disastrous season. A good 2002/03 will fix that. Most of the players have been together a while and are United through and through. They will want to integrate newcomers who are good players with good attitude.
Last years 'tinkering' was a net loss of $20m (Veron, Van Nistelrooy, Carroll, Forlan for Greening, Wilson, Stam, Cole). This years 'strengthening' will cost more AND will get us back to the top.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Agreed...but i still have the idea that Fergie could tame Anelka and he'd be a great player for us...anyway only Fergie knows.
Originally posted by zXe:
<strong>I'm not too concerned which striker we get, as long as they're half decent and they don't jeopardize Ole's spot, as long as he's playing well ofcourse.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Can't be that relaxed about this dude its dangerous. Half decent strikers dont add anything to the team except fill up squad space and warming the bench....we need someone special to give us an added dimension and edge in attack which we dont have.
I cant agree with the "jeopardizing Ole's spot" though becos' what is important is the team...we must do what it takes to win or what is good for United. Who gets the job done better gets to play....i dont Ruud should be automatic first choice either. It should be that depending on form, fitness, tactics and opposition that we choose the striker or combination of strikers/forwards.
Originally posted by edmund:
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Can't be that relaxed about this dude its dangerous. Half decent strikers dont add anything to the team except fill up squad space and warming the bench....we need someone special to give us an added dimension and edge in attack which we dont have.
I cant agree with the "jeopardizing Ole's spot" though becos' what is important is the team...we must do what it takes to win or what is good for United. Who gets the job done better gets to play....i dont Ruud should be automatic first choice either. It should be that depending on form, fitness, tactics and opposition that we choose the striker or combination of strikers/forwards.</strong><hr></blockquote>
That's what was meant by my post. I don't mean play Ole regardless of whether he's playing well or shit. I mean don't automatically displace him with whichever striker you get just because Ole has become Mr. Dispensable, i.e. he's the one who doesn't mind sitting on the bench. Ofcourse it should be whichever strikers are currently in form.
And by "half decent striker" I was being facetious, i'm not expecting us to sign someone who can't cut it.
Originally posted by zXe:
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That's what was meant by my post. I don't mean play Ole regardless of whether he's playing well or shit. I mean don't automatically displace him with whichever striker you get just because Ole has become Mr. Dispensable, i.e. he's the one who doesn't mind sitting on the bench. Ofcourse it should be whichever strikers are currently in form.
And by "half decent striker" I was being facetious, i'm not expecting us to sign someone who can't cut it.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Ahh...thanks for clearing that up...so any ideas of who the "half decent" striker should be?
Originally posted by zXe:
<strong>I personally like Freddie Kanoute. I'm not pulling a kemo and starting any rumors though
But yeah, I think Kanoute would be a good option. Maybe Van Hooijdonk, he's had a good year also, except he is also a potential "problem player"</strong><hr></blockquote>
Personally i dont rate Kanoute too highly.
and Van Hooijdonk is too much of a risk.
Christie is good though although he'd probably warm the bench most of the time.
What do you think of Robbie Keane?
Originally posted by edmund:
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Personally i dont rate Kanoute too highly.
and Van Hooijdonk is too much of a risk.
Christie is good though although he'd probably warm the bench most of the time.
What do you think of Robbie Keane?</strong><hr></blockquote>
I think Robbie Keane is a very good striker, i'm just not sure if we'd ever get him after what was said between him and SAF.