Andy Mitten's article on Tuanzebe,Williams,Rashford and Gribbin

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The trip to Wolfsburg wasn't a complete disaster for Manchester United. Although the first team were eliminated from the Champions League after a 3-2 defeat, their U-19 side beat Wolfsburg 2-0. Unfortunately, the convincing victory didn't stop their elimination from the UEFA Youth League.

Nicky Butt, who coaches United's U-19s, has had to scrape together teams this season to play in the competition. United have players on loan to get more football than they'd get playing in the junior teams at Old Trafford. U-19 football is not as recognised in English football as it is on the continent, where considerable resources are poured into it. United's youth system has issues that need addressing, though the club retains some excellent young footballers and determined coaches who want to help them develop. Keeping them is the challenge.

After the game in Wolfsburg, I spoke to Nicky Butt about four of the lads in his team: Axel Tuanzebe, Ro-Shaun Williams, Marcus Rashford and Callum Gribbin. Perhaps more than most, they represent a bright future for the club.

Central defender Tuanzebe turned 18 in November, soon after being called up to the substitutes bench for the goalless draw at Crystal Palace. He has also captained United's U-19s this season.

"Axel you would say is a born captain, he is a leader and a really good lad," explains Butt. "He is focused. He is the leader of the changing room in his age group. He is very pacy and a really good defender. He reminds me a lot of a Des Walker [former Nottingham Forest and England defender] kind of player, very hard to go past. He is one of those you just don't want to play against."

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Tuanzebe was born in the Democratic Republic of Congo and moved to Rochdale, Greater Manchester, at the age of 3. He joined United at 8. His brother, Dimitri, plays for Trafford, a semi-professional team whose Shawe View home is between Old Trafford and United's Carrington training ground.

"He will go a long way," said Butt of Axel. "He has a lot to learn with the ball which is a difficult side of the game, but his defensive side is very good."

Williams, 17, was another who contributed to the victory in Wolfsburg. "Electric pace," explains Butt. "I think he beat Darren Campbell's 100m schoolboy record, so he is very pacy." Campbell, an Olympic sprinter, had held the 100 metre record at Ashton on Mersey School, where United's young players are schooled, for 25 years with a time of 11.14 seconds. Aged 15, Williams ran it in 10.99 in 2014.

Williams is a centre-back who has also played for England up to U-18 level. "He has a lot to learn to play at the top level with this club and internationally, but defensively again he is like Axel in that you wouldn't want to go up against him," explains Butt. "He is strong and powerful."

Marcus Rashford was the standout player when the United U-19s beat their PSV equivalents 3-0 in Eindhoven in September. That afternoon, former United players like Paddy Crerand and Ruud van Nistelrooy were purring in admiration as Rashford scored twice.

"He is one of those players who you like and ask yourself 'How can he not play at the top level?'" says Butt. "In my opinion he is a top, top player. He has a lot to learn still obviously. He has to learn to get better at finishing and getting in the right areas.

"You want more goals and the coaching staff are always feeding him information. We show him videos of Ruud van Nistelrooy, for instance, and how he scored his goals in the six-yard area. Marcus tends to get a bit frustrated in there and comes out of the areas to get the ball and then tries to run through. That is a very difficult skill -- and you don't score many goals like that.

"But the added things are he has electric pace, a great work ethic and a willingness to learn."

With injuries and a shortage of first-team strikers at Old Trafford, the 18-year-old Mancunian was named as a substitute for United's games against Watford and Leicester. He played for Fletcher Moss Rangers, the Didsbury (south Manchester) based club that many of the best young United players represented, from Wes Brown to Daniel Welbeck, Tyler Blackett to Jesse Lingard.

Cameron Borthwick-Jackson, who has played in United's past two games, also played for Fletcher Moss, as did Ro-Shaun Williams. Manchester City, who've lavished funds on their youth system, tried to sign Rashford last year, but he chose to stay at United, where Louis van Gaal described him as a fantastic talent. He has also given him experiences with the first team that wouldn't have been offered at City.

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Marcus Rashford, left, has been rewarded with a gradual and deserved introduction to Louis van Gaal's senior squad.
Gribbin was the fourth local boy in United's starting XI against Wolfsburg. The Salford midfielder is the youngest of the crop and turns 17 on Friday. He was only 16 when he came on in a preseason friendly at Trafford last season and stood out.

"You look at Callum and he is one of those players who can make things happen," says Butt. "He can cut through defences and score goals and he can set them up. It was the first time against Wolfsburg in Germany that I had seen him do the other side of the game and work a shift.

"Players who play at the top level put the work in as well. You look at Ryan Giggs and David Beckham and those kind of wingers who worked harder than anybody else on the pitch in their heyday. That is a side of the game he has to learn and has got to get better at.

"Against Wolfsburg it was a light bulb moment where you think 'If he does that then he has got a big chance.' But he is only 17 and is learning."

United produce quality young footballers each year, and while the majority make it in professional football, it's not usually at Old Trafford. Butt maintains that all four have a chance of doing that, and for all Van Gaal's perceived faults, failing to give youngsters a chance is not one of them.
 
Nice read. I'd rather have the title as "Nicky Butt on so and so" instead of attributing it to Mitten so much.
 
More of rehash of an interview into a long articlethan mitten praising the club's academy
 
Nice stuff. Good to hear that we've got some genuinely big talents on our hands.
 
Mitten with a positive article? never

Don't worry, from a post on Reddit yesterday, he wrote this spectacularly negative article for a Norwegian site this week (apologies for the google translate summary);

Andy Mitten said:
Source: http://www.united.no/andy-mitten/mitten-om-problemene/

The site is very reliable and credible, being the offical supporters club in Scandinavia (Norway, Denmark and Sweden).

Mitten occasionally writes exclusive columns for this supporters club. They never get published in english, by request of Mitten himself (reckon this has to do with it becoming more difficult for English journalists to pick up on. He is paid by the supporters club for exclusive columns.)

The column is behind a paywall, so only paying members can read it.

Basically, what he says is this: (Sorry in advance for all spelling and grammar errors, I am Norwegian)

  • De Gea's recent statements about the mood in the club is bullshit, and is part of the policy determined by the club as a way to drive a public PR campaign He mentions the recent statements to Chicharito, Falcao and Di Maria as more credible.

  • The truth is that there is dissatisfaction among players with training, tactics, and the style of play.

  • Giggs would have loved to be more outgoing during matches, but Van Gaal requires coaches to stay calm at the sideline, while it is up to the players to find solutions to the problems on their own.

  • Giggs wants to be United's next manager

  • Mitten talked to someone who had played with Giggs, that doubts whether he has the right personality for the job. (Doesn't mention who)

  • Giggs has received several offers to become manager elsewhere and he could have earned big money taking one of those jobs.

  • Mitten have talked with several close friends of Van Gaal this week. They acknowledge that he is under tremendous pressure, but Van Gaal is convinced that he will manage to turn the negative trend around.

  • United's chief executive believes that Guardiola has already clarified his future. Won't sign for United.

  • Ed Woodward is also under great pressure, but is optimistic when it comes to getting their hands on a Neymar-like player (due to the economical advantage of english clubs)

  • Right now United's priority in the transfer market in January is a central defender.

  • Nemanja Vidic is NOT appropriate for a return. Mitten even talked to him twice in the past, and he has also been injured all season. Mitten would not be surprised if his career is over.

  • Wayne Rooney is poor and is not going to play against Norwich, but Mitten can't say more on the topic due to legal reasons. Asks himself if we will ever see Rooney in form again. (Supporters in the comment section is very interested in what Mitten meant here. Many of them interpret it as if Rooney has been involved in legal trouble, or that he is on his way out in january

  • Van Gaal is concerned that some of the purchases has not turned out the way he wanted, especially Memphis Depay, who he had very high hopes for. Mitten, after a September trip to PSV, was told by the manager and coaches that Memphis would need a year off to find his form in England.

  • The players has told Van Gaal that they are frustrated, but the manager is convinced that he his system and style is the right one. He believes that he has had bad luck with both injuries and players out of form.

  • Van Gaal still loves his job.
 
"They have a long way to go"
"He has got a lot to learn"

Some deep insights from Nicky there.

Anyway, good to hear that we have some excellent local talent in our ranks. Rashford and Gribbin have both looked the couple of times I have seen them. Gribbin reminded me of Januzaj. Young lads, still got a lot to learn. ;)
 
Legal reasons?

That's the new style Mitten in a nutshell. I know something but I really can't say it, much as I'd like to. If you can't say it, then don't say it - and don't whisper about it either.

Nonetheless, he isn't clueless. Probably knows something we don't. But what?
 
Legal reasons?

That's the new style Mitten in a nutshell. I know something but I really can't say it, much as I'd like to. If you can't say it, then don't say it - and don't whisper about it either.

Nonetheless, he isn't clueless. Probably knows something we don't. But what?

Maybe not completely clueless but he's hardly the font of all knoweledge all things United, from the limited info he does have he could maybe write one article a year, but he just writes article after article 99 % full of utter waffle, all full of his ooh look at me I'm ever so intelligent style of writing, and I'm going to hint I know something really intersting but I'm not actually going to tell you, no writer gets on my nerves more than him when it comes to united.

Re Rooney the info is common gossip now.
 
Re Rooney the info is common gossip now.

The drinking? Yeah, that makes sense, actually, now that I read it again: Legal issue as in: Can't spread potentially libelous stories. I figured it was something bigger and more substantial - but it's probably just said rumours.
 
The drinking? Yeah, that makes sense, actually, now that I read it again: Legal issue as in: Can't spread potentially libelous stories. I figured it was something bigger and more substantial - but it's probably just said rumours.

Sure the papers are all ready to pull the trigger on the story at some point, intersting to see if he LvG gets any questions in him today.

Not saying I believe it but you have to wonder what hell is going on with him.
 
Maybe not completely clueless but he's hardly the font of all knoweledge all things United, from the limited info he does have he could maybe write one article a year, but he just writes article after article 99 % full of utter waffle, all full of his ooh look at me I'm ever so intelligent style of writing, and I'm going to hint I know something really intersting but I'm not actually going to tell you, no writer gets on my nerves more than him when it comes to united.

Re Rooney the info is common gossip now.

Never heard of it. What is the gossip? Drinking problems?
 
Never heard of it. What is the gossip? Drinking problems?

Aye. Or, not problems as such. But he has apparently showed up for training in a state on a couple of occasions. As in, hung over - or the like. Unprofessional conduct and so forth. Been told to sort himself out, hushed up as him being injured.

No idea to what extent it's true, but the rumours are pretty heavy, as rumours go.

What one could say, is that Mitten (who at least is a fairly serious journo, and who does have a few connections) seemingly perpetuates these rumours rather than...I don't know, NOT perpetuating them. Which is arguably - interesting.
 
Never heard of it. What is the gossip? Drinking problems?

Allegedly combating depression related alcoholism, IF true (and I am in no way suggesting one way or the other) then it is very serious and football should be the last thing on his mind right now.
 
What one could say, is that Mitten (who at least is a fairly serious journo, and who does have a few connections) seemingly perpetuates these rumours rather than...I don't know, NOT perpetuating them. Which is arguably - interesting.

I've been a bit surprised that, given how widespread the rumours are now, I've not seen any prominent football journalists come out to rubbish the reports
 
I've been a bit surprised that, given how widespread the rumours are now, I've not seen any prominent football journalists come out to rubbish the reports

That's the thing - yes. You'd think that if there's nothing to it and Rooney is simply injured, someone would know this - and thus be interested in (for various reasons) rubbishing these rumours.

I guess we'll know soon enough.
 
Aye. Or, not problems as such. But he has apparently showed up for training in a state on a couple of occasions. As in, hung over - or the like. Unprofessional conduct and so forth. Been told to sort himself out, hushed up as him being injured.

No idea to what extent it's true, but the rumours are pretty heavy, as rumours go.

What one could say, is that Mitten (who at least is a fairly serious journo, and who does have a few connections) seemingly perpetuates these rumours rather than...I don't know, NOT perpetuating them. Which is arguably - interesting.
Yet instead of giving a proper break to get himself in order he'll still be the first name on the teem sheet.
 
Aye. Or, not problems as such. But he has apparently showed up for training in a state on a couple of occasions. As in, hung over - or the like. Unprofessional conduct and so forth. Been told to sort himself out, hushed up as him being injured.

No idea to what extent it's true, but the rumours are pretty heavy, as rumours go.

What one could say, is that Mitten (who at least is a fairly serious journo, and who does have a few connections) seemingly perpetuates these rumours rather than...I don't know, NOT perpetuating them. Which is arguably - interesting.
Aye. Or, not problems as such. But he has apparently showed up for training in a state on a couple of occasions. As in, hung over - or the like. Unprofessional conduct and so forth. Been told to sort himself out, hushed up as him being injured.

No idea to what extent it's true, but the rumours are pretty heavy, as rumours go.

What one could say, is that Mitten (who at least is a fairly serious journo, and who does have a few connections) seemingly perpetuates these rumours rather than...I don't know, NOT perpetuating them. Which is arguably - interesting.
Allegedly combating depression related alcoholism, IF true (and I am in no way suggesting one way or the other) then it is very serious and football should be the last thing on his mind right now.

I see. There's probably nothing in it.. but if true then the cynic in me is thinking that the club could sack him for breaching his contract, surley?
 
Yet instead of giving a proper break to get himself in order he'll still be the first name on the teem sheet.

I doubt that. If this is even remotely true, he'll surely get time off to sort it out properly.

Seems to me it's either bollocks (he really is just injured) - or something fairly serious (depression - not just a matter of him "partying", as it were).
 
I see. There's probably nothing in it.. but if true then the cynic in me is thinking that the club could sack him for breaching his contract, surley?
It's possible that they could technically, but there's no way they would. The club loves Rooney, there's no way they are going to humiliate him by kicking him out, especially if he is genuinely having issues with depression/alcoholism. It would be incredibly classless