All this new striker talk.

WeasteDevil

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Tristan (I would love to have), Cisse (I would love to have), Shevchenko (I would love to have), PDC (I would like to have), etc.

Obviously, non of the current three are on their way out, so in that case, IMO we should be looking to get a good British striker, not another foreign one. United have almost always had at least one British striker, and that is what we need again IMO. They play differently to forwards from other countries, and if we could find one with a bit of pace, more the better. Owen would suit me right down to the ground, but he's never going to come, and I'm still trying to think who I would prefer.

Any ideas of who, and why?
 
Originally posted by giggzy:
<strong>owen and ruud would not work..

we need a link player...

maybe duff could do that job?


not many good'ens around are there?</strong><hr></blockquote>

No, there is not, but why couldn't Ruud be the link player?
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Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
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No, there is not, but why couldn't Ruud be the link player?</strong><hr></blockquote>

coz he likes to lead the line...and play of defenders...thats his best asset.. so why change that?


should be not get a forward that compliments him????????
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Originally posted by giggzy:
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coz he likes to lead the line...and play of defenders...thats his best asset.. so why change that?


should be not get a forward that compliments him????????</strong><hr></blockquote>

I think that RVN is far a more complete forward than most people give him credit for. Why can't he do the two things?
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Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
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I think that RVN is far a more complete forward than most people give him credit for. Why can't he do the two things?</strong><hr></blockquote>

he's indeed a complete forward.

but his best asset is his forward play.... he loves to score goals... why change something if it isn't broken?
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Originally posted by giggzy:
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he's indeed a complete forward.

but his best asset is his forward play.... he loves to score goals... why change something if it isn't broken?</strong><hr></blockquote>

He could still score goals, that's not the point, surely a complete forward needs a pacy one-trick beside him to distract the defence a little.

Opposites repel yet attract, it's a balance, that's the point. There is no point in having another complete forward playing next to him, he needs a striker.

Has the 4-5-1 system polluted your mind? ;)
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Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
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He could still score goals, that's not the point, surely a complete forward needs a pacy one-trick beside him to distract the defence a little.

Opposites repel yet attract, it's a balance, that's the point. There is no point in having another complete forward playing next to him, he needs a striker.

Has the 4-5-1 system polluted your mind? ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

yes it has..

ok..in a 4-4-2 i'd want Cisse, coz he can make space for himself, he's got pace and great dribbling skills.... Owen has not! he's just a line leader, like Anelka.
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Also, you say why change things that are not broken. Well, something is.

Look at our GD this year, compare to last (I don't know the exact figures <img src="graemlins/nervous.gif" border="0" alt="[Nervous]" /> ) because despite having a better defence, we simply do not seem to be able to score. :confused:

Chances after chances go begging, and you can blame it on the system or not, but smeone with true pace would solve it IMO. An also IMO it needs to be a British striker, someone buzzing all over the place like a big fat bumble bee.
 
Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
<strong>Also, you say why change things that are not broken. Well, something is.

Look at our GD this year, compare to last (I don't know the exact figures <img src="graemlins/nervous.gif" border="0" alt="[Nervous]" /> ) because despite having a better defence, we simply do not seem to be able to score. :confused:

Chances after chances go begging, and you can blame it on the system or not, but smeone with true pace would solve it IMO. An also IMO it needs to be a British striker, someone buzzing all over the place like a big fat bumble bee.</strong><hr></blockquote>


told ya..... new wingers, that are FAST and DIRECT..and a link up player like Aimar will change that! ;)
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Originally posted by giggzy:
<strong>told ya..... new wingers, that are FAST and DIRECT..and a link up player like Aimar will change that! ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

Maybe, but you're not going to get Joaquin or Vicente or Duff until the summer.

Hmmmmmm. Difficult question this.
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And no Aimar without one hell of a lot of money.

I was there on his debut you know, and he played shite.
 
Very strange that nobody else had taken this topic up, but I suppose they would rather talk about PDC et al.
 
James Beattie? :confused:

Don't know much about him but seems to be doing well at the mo.
 
I know it's nice to speculate, but maybe just accept that come January we will be told that..

i) We have players back from injury, which is like making new signings.

ii) All the strikers we want are cup tied.

iii) We must sell before buying.

iv) There will be no new players until summer.
 
Originally posted by spinoza:
<strong>Weaste, I've come on the Caf 4 times today and each time you've been on... you must have a great job where you can surf without your boss giving you nasty looks.</strong><hr></blockquote>

<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> My boss is nowhere near me, I only see him for a few munites every day, if that.
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Originally posted by GaryLifo:
<strong>I know it's nice to speculate, but maybe just accept that come January we will be told that..

i) We have players back from injury, which is like making new signings.

ii) All the strikers we want are cup tied.

iii) We must sell before buying.

iv) There will be no new players until summer.</strong><hr></blockquote>
You might be right - from TeamTalk:
Sir Alex Ferguson has played down speculation he will sign a new striker when the transfer window reopens, insisting he has no targets in mind.
The exits of Andy Cole and Dwight Yorke over the last 12 months have reduced Manchester United to just three senior strikers in the shape of Ruud van Nistelrooy, Ole Gunnar Solskjaer and Diego Forlan.
And while Ferguson has made it known he wants to sign another forward, the Old Trafford chief has admitted it is not just a question of when he might land a new forward but also the identity of the player as well.
"I would like to sign someone but there is nothing there," he said. "There is nothing in the window because the players you would want, who could do us good, are all cup tied."
Ferguson's options are limited because he wants a striker who would be available in Europe, while he also favours making new signings between seasons.
"I think it is better if they are available for Europe and we have always preferred to buy in the summer anyway," he added.
"It is a new season and we go away together which gives new players a chance to settle in and I think it is better to buy then.
"If something came up then we could be interested but I don't see anything."
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Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
<strong>An also IMO it needs to be a British striker, someone buzzing all over the place like a big fat bumble bee.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Mick Quinn? Remember the hat trick against the Arse? a sign of greater (ok short-term) things? <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
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Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
<strong>And no Aimar without one hell of a lot of money.

I was there on his debut you know, and he played shite.</strong><hr></blockquote>

He did for quite a while actually. Yet another example of instant vs. future impact.
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Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
<strong>Tristan (I would love to have), Cisse (I would love to have), Shevchenko (I would love to have), PDC (I would like to have), etc.

Obviously, non of the current three are on their way out, so in that case, IMO we should be looking to get a good British striker, not another foreign one. United have almost always had at least one British striker, and that is what we need again IMO. They play differently to forwards from other countries, and if we could find one with a bit of pace, more the better. Owen would suit me right down to the ground, but he's never going to come, and I'm still trying to think who I would prefer.

Any ideas of who, and why?</strong><hr></blockquote>

its a good point a uk striker would defo be able to fit in much quicker in the team/area/prem/ etc etc and it would be nice to have seeing as we are a uk team .....

CRISTIE ..... not overly proven but still looks great when he gets going, in a good team he "could" be great.

DEFOE ..... proven against the best (US, ;) :( ) young compleatly differnt to what we have but can't see WH selling.

BETTIE .... a bit of cristie and defoe ie Proven a bit but not exactly concrete, could be easier to get hold of than defoe however .

not much is there ..... I'd feckin love DEFOE at OT though

?????
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Originally posted by JOBT:
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its a good point a uk striker would defo be able to fit in much quicker in the team/area/prem/ etc etc and it would be nice to have seeing as we are a uk team .....

CRISTIE ..... not overly proven but still looks great when he gets going, in a good team he "could" be great.

DEFOE ..... proven against the best (US, ;) :( ) young compleatly differnt to what we have but can't see WH selling.

BETTIE .... a bit of cristie and defoe ie Proven a bit but not exactly concrete, could be easier to get hold of than defoe however .

not much is there ..... I'd feckin love DEFOE at OT though

?????</strong><hr></blockquote>


defoe would be amazing at united.

btw, you lads who were debating up top. RVN would be crap playing off a striker. are you being serious? he's classic number 9 material (even if he doesn't wear the number...), if a bit more skillful...
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Originally posted by toffeestuckinteeth:
<strong>feck it... let's get Sheringham back..</strong><hr></blockquote>

<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> He's just slightly less prolific than Heskey now.
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Originally posted by mikhail:
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<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> He's just slightly less prolific than Heskey now.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I didn't know such a player existed.
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Originally posted by MadDogg:
<strong>Hell, why not go all out and get Thierry Henry <img src="graemlins/devil.gif" border="0" alt="[Devil]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

yep, great idea. I can see that being a possibilty.


shit idea man stikes again.
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oi drongo, you spelt RVN wrong in your profile.

daft cnut. <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" />
 
Originally posted by spinoza:
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Barthez is less prolific than Heskey.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I'll bet he's not. ;)
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Originally posted by sidsutton:
<strong>James Beattie? :confused:

Don't know much about him but seems to be doing well at the mo.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Hmmm, good shout Sidney. ;)

he looks to be your prototypical British centre forward. Doesn't do anything complicated but what he does do, he does well. No idea of his age though, fairly young I think(mid 20s).

On ITV they were talking about his England chances and said he "blows hot & cold". Well feck me, heskey blows between cold and bloody freezing cold and he gets to play for England. Why not give him a go - who else is there?
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Originally posted by sidsutton:
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Hmmm, good shout Sidney. ;)

he looks to be your prototypical British centre forward. Doesn't do anything complicated but what he does do, he does well. No idea of his age though, fairly young I think(mid 20s).

On ITV they were talking about his England chances and said he "blows hot & cold". Well feck me, heskey blows between cold and bloody freezing cold and he gets to play for England. Why not give him a go - who else is there?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Well... how would Beattie cope in Europe though? I agree his strength in the air seems to be an asset, and would probably be in Europe too, but ball playing centre forwards would probably do better against European defences (Like our Ruud). Beattie's got a ways to go yet, and we couldn't prise him away from the Saints cheaply enough to make it worth taking a gamble.
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Originally posted by spinoza:
<strong>But beattie's a lancashire lad and a United fan, and he would have his heart in playing for us I reckon.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Is that true? He seems to be a confident personality.
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