A (serious) question for scousers

barca99

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This is something that has always puzzled me. Why is the Liver building and the Liver bird pronounced as 'lyver' while the 'liver' in 'liverpool' is pronounced 'liver'?

It's doing my head in :)
 
Not too sure either?

How is Manchester pronouced again?

Is it Man - chest - er

Or

Dump?

;)
 
Originally posted by Fowler is God:
<strong>Not too sure either?

How is Manchester pronouced again?

Is it Man - chest - er

Or

Dump?

;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

i know that most of you scousers have probably never been to liverpool.


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but if manchester is a dump then liverpool needs some serious decorating!

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Originally posted by Fergiesarmy:
<strong>

i know that most of you scousers have probably never been to liverpool.


<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />

but if manchester is a dump then liverpool needs some serious decorating!


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I don't live there though! ;)
 
Interesting conversations but no neerer to finding out the answer :(

There are so many Liverpool fans on here that somebody MUST know.
 
There are countless examples of english words with the same sylables that are pronounced differently.
 
Originally posted by Wizadora:
<strong>There are countless examples of english words with the same sylables that are pronounced differently.</strong><hr></blockquote>

for example

scouser = cnuts
scouser = thieves
scouser = lazy twat
scouser = mugger
scouser = addict
 
No one really knows why, but the follow offer's some form of explanation.

In the 13th century King John of England developed a fishing port to help guard the Irish sea and to carry his troops across to Ireland. The port was named Lerpoole.
The original city seal contained an Eagle in it's design but was lost during a siege in 17th century. The resultant copy used in the towns coat of arms thereafter was so poorly copied that the artist's thought the bird was actually a cormorant rather than an eagle and as such painted a piece of seaweed (or Laver as it was known) in it's beak - cormorants were regularly seen building their nests with seaweed/laver.
Because of the differences of opinion as to what the bird was it became known as the Laver bird.

It is therefore a made up creature based on an Eagle and a Cormorant.

Lerpoole
Laver Bird

The two became inextricably linked with the bird becoming the sy mbol of the city and over time the spellings of each became more uniform.

ie over time Lerpool developed into Liverpool. Laver bird coming from Liverpool was probably conveniantly changed to Liver bird to reflect their bond.

However, the slight differences in the pronounciation of the two names remains to this day, testimont to the fact that their origins were different and there similarity merely a coincidence.

All very obscure, with the truth being that noone really knows.....

I trust you feel invigorated by that little history lesson

:) :D
 
A (serious) question for scousers:
-What's it like being a dirty thieving lying unholy cowardly cnut?
 
Originally posted by Suedesi:
<strong>A (serious) question for scousers:
-What's it like being a dirty thieving lying unholy cowardly cnut?</strong><hr></blockquote>

OK, I dont know, Tell me...
 
Originally posted by Suedesi:
<strong>A (serious) question for scousers:
-What's it like being a dirty thieving lying unholy cowardly cnut?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Why don't you ask your Dad, he's right in front of you!

O, your mouth is full, I see.
 
Originally posted by Suedesi:
<strong>A (serious) question for scousers:
-What's it like being a dirty thieving lying unholy cowardly cnut?</strong><hr></blockquote>A (serious) question for San Franciscans: What's it like being an AIDS-ridden Gayboy?
 
Originally posted by morpheus:
<strong>A (serious) question for San Franciscans: What's it like being an AIDS-ridden Gayboy?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Should ask one, when I find one.

...while enjoying the disproportionate amount of hot California bombshells to heterosexual males. ;)
 
Originally posted by Knoxy:
<strong>No one really knows why, but the follow offer's some form of explanation.

In the 13th century King John of England developed a fishing port to help guard the Irish sea and to carry his troops across to Ireland. The port was named Lerpoole.
The original city seal contained an Eagle in it's design but was lost during a siege in 17th century. The resultant copy used in the towns coat of arms thereafter was so poorly copied that the artist's thought the bird was actually a cormorant rather than an eagle and as such painted a piece of seaweed (or Laver as it was known) in it's beak - cormorants were regularly seen building their nests with seaweed/laver.
Because of the differences of opinion as to what the bird was it became known as the Laver bird.

It is therefore a made up creature based on an Eagle and a Cormorant.

Lerpoole
Laver Bird

The two became inextricably linked with the bird becoming the sy mbol of the city and over time the spellings of each became more uniform.

ie over time Lerpool developed into Liverpool. Laver bird coming from Liverpool was probably conveniantly changed to Liver bird to reflect their bond.

However, the slight differences in the pronounciation of the two names remains to this day, testimont to the fact that their origins were different and there similarity merely a coincidence.

All very obscure, with the truth being that noone really knows.....

I trust you feel invigorated by that little history lesson

:) :D </strong><hr></blockquote>

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I've got a map that has Liverpool spelled

LeverPole.

So, as with most things the name changes over time.

I think Dublin means 'Blackpool' doesn't it ( I seem to remember one of my Irish mates telling me?)

I find it funny that some people don't seem to like Liverpool, but harp on about Dublin - which is odd, since the two cities are very alike.
 
Cheers for the answers and the history lesson scousers. Much appreciated.

Now, onto the resulting debate, calling Mancunia a dump etc. Likely. Now I think Liverpool is a great city (shame about the people... ;) ), albert Dock- great, good heritage, superb shops etc. However, it cannot be arged that the area around Anfield is a complete dive. Spot the house/shop that isn't bordered up. Of course, there's always the Anfield florest though!

Old Trafford, however, "a club from the slum side of Manchester" copywrite Ken "twat" bates, are in better surroundings... the Lowry, Stretford Arndale ( ;) ) etc. But football grounds are traditionally in run-down areas as football used to be a game of the working classes before the daytripping brigade jumped on the bandwaggon.

M16 ORA- where angels play :)
 
mancs = cnuts
mancs = delusional
mancs = factually incorect
fergiesbarmy = fool
 
Originally posted by barca99:
<strong>Cheers for the answers and the history lesson scousers. Much appreciated.

Now, onto the resulting debate, calling Mancunia a dump etc. Likely. Now I think Liverpool is a great city (shame about the people... ;) ), albert Dock- great, good heritage, superb shops etc. However, it cannot be arged that the area around Anfield is a complete dive. Spot the house/shop that isn't bordered up. Of course, there's always the Anfield florest though!

Old Trafford, however, "a club from the slum side of Manchester" copywrite Ken "twat" bates, are in better surroundings... the Lowry, Stretford Arndale ( ;) ) etc. But football grounds are traditionally in run-down areas as football used to be a game of the working classes before the daytripping brigade jumped on the bandwaggon.

M16 ORA- where angels play :) </strong><hr></blockquote>

Part of the reason for all the shops/houses boarded up is that the club owns most of them and is trying to buy them all out so they can expand the ground and buy the area around the ground for a new super-duper footbally villiagy thingy.

Like all Cities, Liverpool has really nice areas and really grim areas.

Liverpool has this bod called something Kenny who is a bluenose who would rather see the area with a total lack of funds than someone to introduce loads of money and jobs into the area - suprise, suprise, he's a bluenose..

The area round the ground really could do with a cash injection - but what can the club do if people don't want to play?