80s Fantasy Draft - Cold_Boy v Cal?

Who will win based on players in their prime, team tactics, balance & bench strength?

  • Cold Boy

    Votes: 17 81.0%

  • Cal

    Votes: 4 19.0%
  • Total voters
    21
  • Poll closed .

Brwned

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Important note: For the purpose of this competition, these players are considered at the level when they were in their prime.

Team Cold Boy

STRATEGY/TACTICS

My team is set -up with a 4- 2 -3-1 (or alternatively 4-3-3) with Shevchenko as the main striker with Wiltord and DI Natale on the wings who will not only put in crosses but also cut inside the box.

Litmanen will be my play-maker cum link-up between the midfield and Sheva.

Ballack and Hamann will be in central midfield with Ballack playing the box-to-box role and will be everywhere.Hamann will sit back and link up with the defense and use his abilities to spray passes ahead as well as stop/tackle the opposition's attack.

With Stam and Materazzi I have two no-nonsense ,beast of defenders who are sure to win every ball in the air and also have special attributes like speed and physical strength to tackle any kind of opposing attacker.

In Lauren and Abidal I have two extremely reliable wing-backs who will not only bomb forward but also will be solid in defense.Both again pretty tall players.

The team has plenty of height with only Natale and Wiltord who are short and also plenty of speed.
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MARCOS

Brazil's main goalkeeper during the 2002 World Cup winning squad.One of the best Brazilian keepers ever and voted 4th best in the world according to IFFHS

LAUREN

First choice in the Arsenal's Invincibles Team.Voted ANC player of tournament in 2000 and also made it into the PFA team of 2004.Was one of the best right backs in the PL era.Solid defensively as well as great going forward

Mallorca

* Supercopa de España: 1

1998

Arsenal

* FA Premier League: 2

2001–02, 2003–04

* FA Cup: 3

2002, 2003, 2005

* Community Shield: 2

2002, 2004

Portsmouth

* Premier League Asia Trophy: 1

2007

* FA Cup: 1

2008

Cameroon

* Olympic Tournament: 1

2000

* African Nations Cup: 2

2000, 2002

Individual

* African Nations Cup Player of the Tournament: 1

2000

* PFA Team of the Year: 1

2004[14]

STAM

Jaap Stam needs no intro for us United fans.Beast of a defender.
1997 Dutch player of the year.Twice best defender in the CL and 3 times part of the PFA team of year. Legend! No team will even bother messing with my team.:devil:

MATERAZZI

Now lets forget what a cnut he was and the Zidane incident. Materazzi was one of the best defenders in Italy over past 2 decades.Voted Serie A defender of the Year 2007 and won 5 Serie A titles and World Cup winner.

Known for his aggressive style and no nonsense defending.Chipped in with a decent number of goals too throughout his career.

ABIDAL

One of the best left-back of recent times.Made it into the UEFA team of the year 2007 and voted Defender of the year recently and French regular ahead of Evra.

Tall,Fast and Strong.Equally amazing attacking wise and defensively.

Lyon

* French League: 3

2004–05, 2005–06, 2006–07

* French Supercup: 3

2005, 2006, 2007

Barcelona

* Spanish League: 3

2008–09, 2009–10, 2010–11

* Spanish Cup: 1

2008–09

* Spanish Super Cup: 3

2009, 2010, 2011

* UEFA Champions League: 2

2008–09, 2010–11

* UEFA Super Cup: 2

2009, 2011

* FIFA Club World Cup: 2

2009, 2011

HAMANN

One of Liverpools most influential midfielders and best signing during the Houlier era.One of the most under-rated players in the PL.Known for his reliability and consistency. A quality defensive midfielder who can not only interrupt the opposition attack but also had a very good range of passing himself. Won the CL with Pool and Capped 60 times for Germany.

I think those of you'all who have seen him play many times will admit he was real quality.

BALLACK

Arguably the best box-to-box midfielder of the last decade.An absolute machine and midfielder who could do everything possible.
Known for his Passing ,Agility, Shooting, Quickness, Strength, Ability in air, Attitude.So basically everything. Had an eye for those killer through balls too and a very good goal scoring record. 42 in 90 for Germany and a similar record for the clubs in his pick.

Was my favorite midfielder before he joined Chelsea.

UEFA Midfielder of the Year 2002.
3 times German player of the Year
Named 2 times each in the World Cup and Euro's Team of the year respectively.

LITMANEN

The greatest player Finland has ever produced and arguably one of the best players ever during his peak at Ajax ( the 90's decade).

9 times Finish player of the Year, Voted 3rd best in Europe in 1995, and the Dutch player of the year and top-scorer in 1993.

One of the best players Ajax ever had, Litmanen had almost no weaknesses. Known for his touch, technique, skills, passing and scoring.In his prime at Ajax he was almost as good as the great players named of the last century.

Watch the video below please :



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jari_Litmanen#Personal_awards_and_achievements

DI NATALE

An extremely versatile forward who could play anywhere in attack. Known for his pace, skills and ability to score and create goals.

During his peak one the best attackers of the decade in Serie A scoring 183 in 280 odd matches for Udinese.

Serie A top scorer in 2010 and 2011 and also Italian player of the year 2010.

WILTORD

Another member of the brilliant Arsenal side. French footballer of the year 1999 and top scorer in the French league once.

SHEVCHENKO

Needs no introduction imo. One of the best strikers ever. AC Milan legend.

2004 Winner of the Ballon D'Or and placed 3rd thrice.

Individual

* Ukrainian Footballer of the Year: (6) 1997, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2004, 2005
* Ukrainian Sports 1999.[35]
* Commonwealth of Independent States Cup Top Scorer: 1997
* Ukrainian Premier League Top Scorer: 1999
* Ukrainian Premier League Best player: 1997
* Ukrainian Cup Top Scorer (2): 1995, 1998
* ESM Team of the Year: (3) 1999-00, 2003–04, 2004–2005
* UEFA Champions League Top Scorer: (2) 1998–99, 2005–06
* UEFA Champions League Best Forward: 1999
* UEFA Team of the Year: (2) 2004, 2005
* UEFA Super Cup 2003 Man of the match.
* Serie A Foreign Footballer of the Year: 2000
* Serie A Goal of the Year 2004 (Roma-Milan 2004).[36]
* Serie A Top Scorer: (2) 1999–00, 2003–04
* Supercoppa Italiana all time top Scorer
* Best Player of Eastern Europe - Focus Vest magazine Trophy: 2001
* Baltic and Commonwealth of Independent States Footballer of the Year: (2) 2004, 2005
* Ballon d'Or: 2004
* Ballon d'Or: Third Place 1999, 2000.
* 2004 FIFA World Player of the Year Third
* Golden Foot award : 2005
* FIFPro World XI: 2005
* Ukraine all-time Top Scorer with 46 goals.
* Derby della Madonnina all-time top scorer with 14 goals.
* All time Milan's Top goal scorer in Champions League with 33 goals.
* All time FIFA World Cup qualification European Top Scorer.[37]
* FIFA World Cup qualification 2002 Top Scorer European with 10 goals.
* FIFA 100
* The World Team of the Decade by Mirror Football: 2009[38]
* A.C. Milan Hall Of Fame.[39]
* UEFA awards 100 caps.[40]
* Pallone d'Argento 2004.
* L'Équipe Team of the Year: (2) 2004, 2005.[41][42]
* Top scorer in the history of football ukrainian with 370 goals.
* Dynamo Kiev Top goalscorer (2) .
* A.C Milan Top goalscorer (6).

[edit] Ballon d'Or

* 1998 – nominated (top 50)
* 1999 – 3rd
* 2000 – 3rd
* 2001 – 8th
* 2003 – 4th
* 2004 – 1st
* 2005 – 5th
* 2006 – nominated (top 50)

[edit] FIFA World Player of the Year

* 1999 – 7th
* 2000 – 5th
* 2001 – 9th
* 2003 – 10th
* 2004 – 3rd
* 2005 – 6th
* 2006 – 21st
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Team Cal?

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Tactics to be updated at a later date
 
I find Cal's formation a bit strange, he would have been better off with a proper 4-4-2 - still a difficult decision

Edit: Eventually went for Cold Boy but it was difficult to vote against all those United heros
 
Brwned, I think you've made a mistake in the poll options. I can't see who has voted for us so far.
 
Leaning towards Cold Boy right now as it seems to have better balance, with Hamann being a natural holding midfield with Ballack box to box allow Litmanen to roam about, I mean Keane is clearly better than Ballack, but Guti is also the weakest of the lot. Not a fan of either Solskjaer or Di Natale on the wings, but I guess that evens itself out.

Got has better full backs....but Cold Boy better centre back partnership. Keepers probably another that evens itself too.

Not voted yet though. Tough one indeed.
 
Rood said:
I find Cal's formation a bit strange, he would have been better off with a proper 4-4-2 - still a difficult decision
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And I agree with this....I instantly saw that and think that Beckham would drift right with Keane bombing up and down in the middle and Solskjaer then going up with Crespo. Which is actually what's making just as tough, because I like that his team can do that, don't think Cals could adapt and change up like that.
 
KM said:
Brwned, I think you've made a mistake in the poll options. I can't see who has voted for us so far.
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Get over it.

Yeah, sorry about that! Can't edit polls and I forgot to tick one of the boxes.
 
You don't need a three man midfield when you have Keane at his prime in there.
 
I've gone for 4-3-3 to crowd him out in midfield and leave Shevchenko isolated upfront, also, Cold Boy has 4 purely attacking players who won't help out in defence.

As for Solskjaer at RW, Sir Alex played him there regularly in the early 2000s.
 
Brwned, it should read 70s draft in the title. I thought Cal? and ColdBoy had gone and setup a third parallel draft :lol:
 
Cal looks like he has three players out of position.

Solskjaer more effective through the middle, Beckham better wide right, Keane - in his prime - was not as defensive as positioned there and actually quite creative.

edit: reading through, a lot seem to have already said this.
 
Cal? said:
I've gone for 4-3-3 to crowd him out in midfield and leave Shevchenko isolated upfront, also, Cold Boy has 4 purely attacking players who won't help out in defence.

As for Solskjaer at RW, Sir Alex played him there regularly in the early 2000s.
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You clearly have more going forward in my eyes, I rate those three as more damaging than Cold Boys four TBH.

My first instinct is it all boils down to the midfield battle, where I have little time for Guti's contribution. Beckham would help but not at Ballack/Hamann levels. Between the two they probably account for Hamann.

Once in possession you have a clearer transition forward, which is a bonus.

It really is a matter of whether Keano can make short work of Ballack AND Litmanen. At his highest peak I believe he could.

But TBH, this one would ultimately go down to my infinite belief in :devil:

ColdBoy's back four is impressive though, very very solid. Unless Lauren decides to beat Marcos 1 on 1 :lol: I really do see this going Cold Boy's way despite Keano's best efforts.
 
Into the last quarter of the match now.
 
Comfortable win for the Team Coldboy then :D
 
Cal had a tactical nightmare and basically handed the game to Cold Boy right from the off - i think he will need to have a rethink to save his tournament ...
 
Who was Cal's substitute?
Guti in a 2man midfield is a recipe for disaster, amazingly lazy player. Keano was a god in his prime, but still that wouldn't be enough for a defensive disaster like Guti.
 
KM said:
Who was Cal's substitute?
Guti in a 2man midfield is a recipe for disaster, amazingly lazy player. Keano was a god in his prime, but still that wouldn't be enough for a defensive disaster like Guti.
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Hence the 3 man midfield!!
 
Cal? said:
Hence the 3 man midfield!!
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I can see that, I was just replying to posts in the thread which were saying you were better off playing a 2 man midfield.
 
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