70s Fantasy Draft - antohan v DanNistelrooy

[Brwned]

antohan

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Dan's Brazilian Army

Julio Cesar - Brazil's number 1 and over 200 caps for Inter. Won the treble with Inter in 2010 and was named UEFA Goalkeeper of the year

Cafu (c) - World cup winning captain - One of, if not the best right full back of his generation. Won 2 Copa America's, 2 World Cups along with a host of other club competitions; including the Champions League, 1 Club world cup, Serie A titles with Roma and AC.

Lucio - World cup winner and one of the best centre backs of the 2000s. On top of the Wolrd Cup, has won the lot at club level - also part of Inter's treble winning side in 2010.

Juan - Underrated, solid defender who has played with Lucio for Brazil. Juan is the 20th most capped Brazilian player of all time, anyone with that record for a team like Brazil has had an impressive career.

Sylvinho - Providing the width on the left is Sylvinho. Good servant for Arsenal, and part of Barcelona's 2006 and 2009 Champions League winning team. Also won a few La Liga titles and is capable of getting forward as well as putting in a defensive shift

Gilberto Silva - Solid, disciplined defensive midfielder who will keep things ticking and cover for Sylvinho and Cafu when they move forward. An integral part of both Brazil's World Cup 2002 winning team and Arsenal's "invincibles".

Edu - Another important player of Arsenal's unbeaten side in 2004. 2 Premiership medals and 2 FA Cups was followed by a successful stint at Valencia where he won the Copa del Rey in 2008. Another World Champion as he was part of the Cornithians side to pick of the FIFA Club World Championship in 2000

Juninho Paulista - Adding flair and creativity to the midfield is "Little" Juninho. World Cup winner in 2002.

Juninho Pernambucano - Will be remembered for his deadly freekicks. Very tidy on the ball and will link the midfield and attacking play well. Integral part of the dominant Lyon side who won 7 consecutive French titles between 2002-2008. Picked up 40 international caps for Brazil

Edmundo - had a reputation for being a bit of a nutter. But there was no doubting his talent. Scorer of one of the best goals I've seen scored against United Mundial FIFA 2000: Vasco 3 X 1 Manchester - Golaço de Edmundo - YouTube .10 goals in 39 caps for Brazil - the prospect of a Edmundo - Ronaldo partnership is exciting

Ronaldo - the best striker of his generation. A stunning 247 goals in 343 starts at club level, paired with 62 in 98 for Brazil. 2 time Ballon D'or winner, guided Brazil to World Cup glory in 2002.

Sub - Denilson - another World Cup winner. Famous for his trickery and step overs. If a bit of magic is needed from the bench, he is capable.

I have gone for a strong core to the team. Julio Cesar, Lucio, Gilberto Silva, Ronaldo - all top players who, in their prime, were amongst the best around.

The width will be provided by Cafu, arguably the best right back of his generation, and on the other side Sylvinho. When either of these 2 go forward I have a well disciplined, World Cup winning defensive midfielder in Gilberto to cover for them.

Attacking-wise, the creativity of the two Juninhos and Edmundo will be able to create chances, and then I have the best striker of this generation to score the goals for me in Ronaldo.

Flair is clearly not going to be lacking in a Brazilian team but this group of players also have the steel to go with that.

7 World Cup medals between them, along with a couple of Wolrd Club Championships and Champions Leagues. They also boast league titles from Greece, Brazil, England, Spain, Italy, France and Germany.

 

[antohan]

Just wondering, what are people's views on Candela?

I'm thinking about bringing on Nesta and/or Puyol but Serginho could be handy as LB/WB/AML. Don't think he is better but does give me that possible wide option.

Thoughts?

 

[Gio]

Just wondering, what are people's views on Candela?

I'm thinking about bringing on Nesta and/or Puyol but Serginho could be handy as LB/WB/AML. Don't think he is better but does give me that possible wide option.

Thoughts?

Well I don't think he's a weak link. But perhaps there's a lack of balance insofar as there's only two naturally left-footed players in the team (Montero iirc and Vieri) and neither of them will be deviating from a central position. In saying that, the likes of Forlan, Zidane and Zanetti were very competent with their weaker sides.

 

[Brwned]

I wouldn't get rid of Candela personally.

 

[antohan]

Well I don't think he's a weak link. But perhaps there's a lack of balance insofar as there's only two naturally left-footed players in the team (Montero iirc and Vieri) and neither of them will be deviating from a central position. In saying that, the likes of Forlan, Zidane and Zanetti were very competent with their weaker sides.

Luis Enrique was also two-footed. I'm not particularly concerned about that TBH.

 

[antohan]

I wouldn't get rid of Candela personally.

Good, don't want to! I just never get any comments on him one way or the other, just don't want a surprise further down the line!

As it is, I think only Roberto Carlos would be an improvement worth bothering with. Maybe, just about maybe, Zambrotta, on the back of his versatility but if the opportunity came up I'm sure there would be much more interesting upgrades available.

 

[Rood]

this one is quite an easy decision because the Brazilians are going to get raped in midfield

 

[DanNistelrooy]

Getting a good pasting from probably the best team in the competition.

My strike force against Montero - Ramelow would be my only hope. Montero was good but I think Ramelow was fairly average and most of the times I saw him he played in defensive midfield.

 

[DanNistelrooy]

this one is quite an easy decision because the Brazilians are going to get raped in midfield

Brazilian central midfielders are very hard to come by, nearly had to go for our man Kleberson!

 

[Annihilate Now!]

The only thing I'll disagree with in this thread is

You also have to agree the difference between Forlán and Edmundo is far more significant than that between Ronaldo and Vieri

But that's mainly because Ronaldo in his prime was one of the greatest strikers the world has ever seen... ever, whilst Vieri wouldn't get anywhere near that mantle. I would say it also devalues Edmundo, he was a very good striker in his day (though not quite as good as Forlan of course).

He's team would still win though, that midfield would boss it.

 

[antohan]

The only thing I'll disagree with in this thread is

But that's mainly because Ronaldo in his prime was one of the greatest strikers the world has ever seen... ever, whilst Vieri wouldn't get anywhere near that mantle. I would say it also devalues Edmundo, he was a very good striker in his day (though not quite as good as Forlan of course).

He's team would still win though, that midfield would boss it.

That's a fair comment, although I would still point out I have a dominant aerial threat in Vieri, which Ronaldo isn't. Still, at his peak he was unplayable and even when not at his peak...

This is one game I remember fondly: 2003, World Champions Brazil playing home against Uruguay for the WC qualifiers, with many of the players on show here (not the Uruguayans, you won't recognise most of the teamsheet!).

Brasil: Dida, Cafu, Lucio, Roque Junior, Junior, Renato (Juninho Pernambucano 78'), Gilberto Silva, Zé Roberto, Kaka' (Alex 72'), Rivaldo (Luis Fabiano 78'), Ronaldo

Uruguay: Gustavo Munua, Adrian Romero (Alvaro Recoba 46'), Diego Lopez, Joe Bizera, Alejandro Lago, Nelson Abeijon (Richard Nuñez 36'), Marcelo Sosa, Martin Ligüera, German Hornos (Javier Chevanton 55'), Marcelo Zalayeta, Diego Forlan

Brazil was ahead 2-0 with Kaká and Ronaldo goals. Forlán pulled it level. A Gilberto own goal put us ahead, but Ronaldo showed up again to draw it.

 

[antohan]

Getting a good pasting from probably the best team in the competition.

My strike force against Montero - Ramelow would be my only hope. Montero was good but I think Ramelow was fairly average and most of the times I saw him he played in defensive midfield.

Am I the only one rating Montero as one of the top CBs for that left central slot?

Ramelow was a centre-half but his role was primarily as a sweeper protecting the back four and slotting into a back three when the fullbacks where away upfront.

Good player to have, although I knew he would be no vote winner. For the next round I'll have Nesta hopefully.

 

[DanNistelrooy]

Am I the only one rating Montero as one of the top CBs for that left central slot?

Ramelow was a centre-half but his role was primarily as a sweeper protecting the back four and slotting into a back three when the fullbacks where away upfront.

Good player to have, although I knew he would be no vote winner. For the next round I'll have Nesta hopefully.

I think to have any chance of staying in the competition I will need to strengthen that midfield with a non Brazilian

 

[antohan]

I think to have any chance of staying in the competition I will need to strengthen that midfield with a non Brazilian

Or maybe you can get someone in Group A to pick Emerson for you and you trade him for Makelele? (win-win, he gets the better player, you get the Brazilian, and one you need at that)

Which Brazilians are becoming available in other groups? I'm sure we could all work a good system out for you to stay Brazilian

 

[antohan]

What's Deco's status? He is Brazilian by birth.

Maybe you could infiltrate a few Portuguese players without anyone noticing