50s Fantasy Draft - Jayvin v Duffy

Who will win based on players in their prime, team tactics, balance & bench strength?


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Team Jayvin

Tactics

4-3-3:
Playing a 4-3-3, my team is built on a rock solid defence with a perfect blend of brains, brawn and elegance. Forster is capable of marking anyone out of the game on his day, and Scirea’s outstanding reading of the game and superb ball control make them the perfect partnership. McGrain and Demyanenko will operate as traditional full-backs in this formation, with a primary focus on defence, though their ability in the final third means when they do get forward, they have a good shot at creating goalscoring opportunities.
In midfield, Fernandez and Prohaska will sit relatively deep, the Frenchman tasked to break up the play with his ball-winning skills and the Austrian to play the role of deep-lying playmaker, dictating the game with his passing skills. Further ahead of them in attacking midfield is Glenn Hoddle, whose ability on the ball and ferocious shot make him a danger to any side.
On the wings, Eder and Bertoni are more than capable goalscorers themselves, but they will also be charged with providing the ammunition for Krankl and making the pitch wide when necessary, allowing space for Hoddle to operate in.
Leading the line is Hans Krankl, consummate finisher and the focal point of my team. Krankl will operate as a fox-in-the-box, similar to Ruud van Nistelrooy at Manchester United. With assistance from Hoddle, Eder and Bertoni, there will surely be chances galore – and a chance usually means a goal for Hans Krankl.

Player Profiles


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TEAM DUFFY

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***Player Profiles***

GOALKEEPER
In between the sticks is Bats, his description speaks for itself, European Championship winner with France. He is this teams "Guardian".

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DEFENCE
It's no conincidence that my defence is made up of 2 half, both half have won the European Cup together. The right hand side of Liverpools 1984 European Cup winning defence, Phil Neal and Mark Lawrenson, and the left hand side of Juventus' 1985 European cup winning Defence, Sergio Brio and Antonio Cabrini.

The stability of Lawrenson and Brio in the centre allows Neal and Cabrini the room to get forward and support the wingers. The one thing my defence has that no other defense in the competition can boast it a proven understanding. Lawrenson and Neal played together for Liverpool in 4 league winning seasons and as mentioned a European Cup winning campaign.
This is mirrored in Brio and Cabrini (also a World Cup winning left back) who also won 4 League titles in Italy together in addiction to a European Cup.
Overall the defence boasts a total of 23 League Titles, 7 European Cups and a World Cup, thats before getting into National cups, Uefa Cups and Cup Winners Cups.

A Defence Built on Understanding, Stability and Success.

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MIDFIELD
In Midfield the mix of the English League's Finest, with the class of the Italians continues as Robson and Ancolotti (another 2 time European Cup winner) stand side by side in the middle. Captain Marvel is the legs of the team, the driving force such as he was for years for Man United. With Robson getting stuck in and working the opposition midfield hard, this will give time for Ancelotti to dictate the game.

Ancelotti will look to spread the play to the wide positions where Houseman (the sides 2nd World Cup Winner) and Chalana can look to get at the opposition defence. Both wingers are 2 footed, giving the option of switching wings to confuse the oppositions marking. Both very alike in their direct, pacey approach, the dribbling ability of both Chalana and Houseman is enough to baffle any defender and provide plenty of chances for the teams Strikers.

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STRIKERS
What more do you want from a frontline than 2 former European Footballers of the Year (Keegan winning it on 2 seperate Occasions) with over over 500 career goals between them. Keegan showed throughout his career how well he works in a 2 man frontline and how well he drops off in order to create chances. With chances being created left right and centre, Blokhin is the man to be putting the chances away.
A born goal scorer, he is strong, pacey, skillful and has a hitman like accuracy when finishing.

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OVERALL
Throughout the team you have the balance of toughness (Neal, Brio, Blokhin) creativity (Cabrini, Chalana, Ancelotti, Houseman) and determination (Keegan, Lawrenson, Robson) to beat any side.

SUB:
Rui Jordao is another born goalscorer, and it was a hard descision to leave him out given his goalscoring record, but the frontline of 2 former European Footballer of the Year winners was too good to turn down.

Jordao is ready to come in if the side needed goals and his positioning, strength and alertness makes him a great target man. For a display of what is waiting on the bench, check out Jordao's 2 goals against France in the video above. Note both goals were assisted by my own creative winger, Chalana.
 
Duffy for me. Same as I said before with Jayvin, love the CB pair but I'm not at all sold on the front three combination, Duffy's wide players are better and I wouldn't put it past Robbo to cope with that midfield (albeit, not dominate it).
 
I'm not sure where the difference will be made. Jayvin's full-backs should cancel out Duffy's wingers, Robson and Ancelotti should negate the threat of Hoddle. Some good forwards on the pitch but against some top banana defenders.
 
I'm not sure where the difference will be made. Jayvin's full-backs should cancel out Duffy's wingers, Robson and Ancelotti should negate the threat of Hoddle. Some good forwards on the pitch but against some top banana defenders.

Agree it's quite evenly match but it's for games like these I ensured I had 2 former European Footballer of the Year's up front and the Liverpool/Juve mix European Cup winning defence, hopefully to tip the votes in my favour.
 
I'm surprised I had to chase Duffy all the way to a 9-9 draw and now I seem to be the only one rating his team.

Weird.
 
Duffy for me. Same as I said before with Jayvin, love the CB pair but I'm not at all sold on the front three combination, Duffy's wide players are better and I wouldn't put it past Robbo to cope with that midfield (albeit, not dominate it).

Don't agree with that. I'd say Houseman and Bertoni are on a similar level, and Eder is one of the top wide players in the draft. My wingers also have the advantage of versatility; Eder can play as an auxiliary striker if need be, tucking in behind Krankl, with Demyanenko given increased attacking responsibility on the left flank in a Patrice Evra-esque role.

Overall, a very close game no doubt, but I think my side would just edge it. Scirea and Forster are more than a match for Keegan and Blokhin, whilst Duffy's midfield will be too busy taking care of Hoddle and Prohaska to have any dramatic impact on the attacking side on things.
 
Also, when Eder cuts infield and Phil Neal tracks him, space will open up for Demyanenko. If Lawrenson is charged with dealing with him, it leaves Krankl 1-on-1 with Brio. I can't see Duffy dealing with that. His 2-man midfield, despite the inclusion of Robson, leaves his central defence exposed.
 
Don't agree with that. I'd say Houseman and Bertoni are on a similar level, and Eder is one of the top wide players in the draft.

I'm not arguing with their individual quality, I just didn't quite see how they play as a unit. I'm used to seeing them play alongside very different players. I like the point on Eder becoming an auxiliary striker and letting Demyanenko run that flank altogether, I can see that working well attack-wise.

But it does leave your left flank exposed. Houseman was unlikely to track back, certainly not all game long. It's good when Demyanenko is supporting that attack, bad when he is caught upfield with Houseman all by himself. That would pull Scirea, potentially leaving Forster to deal with Keegan and Blokhin. Good luck with that!

Overall, a very close game no doubt, but I think my side would just edge it. Scirea and Forster are more than a match for Keegan and Blokhin, whilst Duffy's midfield will be too busy taking care of Hoddle and Prohaska to have any dramatic impact on the attacking side on things.
I think the midfields will cancel out. I like your back four more but can see his wingers and two men upfront having the better of them more than your three on his (which looks more settled/cohesive).
 
303 views, 4 votes

We need to get this sorted somehow

Well there's a couple of reasons for the lack of votes. First, the football forum is practically dead at this time of year. Second, we're dealing with players most tards haven't seen. Third, a lot of the teams are so closely balanced people can't pick a clear winner.
 
Well there's a couple of reasons for the lack of votes. First, the football forum is practically dead at this time of year. Second, we're dealing with players most tards haven't seen. Third, a lot of the teams are so closely balanced people can't pick a clear winner.

Am I the only one who doesn't enter specific forums but first goes to the main page to see what's active? Few things are particularly active (other than when Olympic games are on) so you would expect people to vote just out of boredom if nothing is on.

I can see the closely balanced point but that is only bound to get worse. What should improve in the knockouts is the names becoming a lot more familiar. I did find it hard to vote in the United draft early stages as there were always 3-4 players in each teamsheet that I had never seen at all.

Still, we have 10 teams participating and hardly manage to get them to vote!
 
Duffy needs to log on and put up a fight, otherwise he is a goner I'm afraid
 
Its lunch, I'm here...I'm not sure what I can say really other than what I've already said.

I beleive my team is good enough to win this game no doubt. I thinkThe balance I have is spot on.

Looking at Jayvins team, I see me winning it in 2 area's. Firstly I don't think his defence could cope with the Keegan/Blokhin partnership, think my two boys would have plenty of chances coming their way.

Second depends on whether Jayvin is going for a 3 man forward line or 1 striker and 2 wingers. If the case is 1 up front with wingers I think my defence has the upper hand in that I can see Neil and Cabrini, with the cover of my wingers, being able to cope with the 2 winde players, and I can't see Kranki having any luck up top on his own.

Like I say, about my defence in my tactics -

Overall the defence boasts a total of 23 League Titles, 7 European Cups and a World Cup, thats before getting into National cups, Uefa Cups and Cup Winners Cups.

I think my defence has the proven ability to play against the best, and with all respect to Jayvin, I don't think his offensive line is the best I will come up against.
 
Robbo seems to have lost his mojo :eek:

I know! I thought he would be a big plus for me in this competition - not through sentiment but through the fact that most on the Caf should know how influential he can be even in a poor side, yet i find every game comments such as "Robbo can't deal with ____" or "Robbo will get overrun", I mean jeeze, did everyone just forget how good he was!?! :lol:
 
Looking at Jayvins team, I see me winning it in 2 area's. Firstly I don't think his defence could cope with the Keegan/Blokhin partnership, think my two boys would have plenty of chances coming their way.

That's where I think you win it. While Houseman and Chalana may not be the best wingers in the draft, they'll sure get enough balls in for those two to make an impact.

I mulled over whether you would be better with Jordao and Blokhin on the wing but you had it spot on when you played me: Blokhin has an important physical impact in the box which you would lose with Jordao.
 
I know! I thought he would be a big plus for me in this competition - not through sentiment but through the fact that most on the Caf should know how influential he can be even in a poor side, yet i find every game comments such as "Robbo can't deal with ____" or "Robbo will get overrun", I mean jeeze, did everyone just forget how good he was!?! :lol:

In our game I thought he couldn't deal with three midfielders who were all hardworkers, got stuck in, yet were good at retaining and distributing the ball. It sparked irate replies from many on the caf and cost me a bucket of votes.

Here he is facing a weaker three yet doesn't seem to be getting you any credit. Everyone was banging on about the beauty of you having a double pair of European Cup winners in defence as well (which is useful, but I thought was a bit overstated). No one seems to care any more.

As stated, very weird.
 
You could do with a Nani-style thread:

"FAO Resident Gooners and Dippers: come vote for your men and against Hoddle" :lol:
 
If Jayvin wins this it'll mean tomorrow's match between Duffy and Polaroid will be winner takes all! For what it's worth anto I thought your side was clearly better than Duffy's, it's not a weak team of course but one of the two weakest, IMO.
 
If Jayvin wins this it'll mean tomorrow's match between Duffy and Polaroid will be winner takes all!

Which is what surprises me with Duffy not going ballistic here. All he needs is a couple of votes and he is safe. Jayvin is already safe anyway as he won the head-to-head against Polaroid.

If this is how much he battles here I can see Polaroid eating him alive tomorrow.

For what it's worth anto I thought your side was clearly better than Duffy's, it's not a weak team of course but one of the two weakest, IMO.

I thought so as well, and am aware most of his votes had been from random people popping in, but my view then was I had better flanks and midfield while his attack was surely one of the -if not the- most devastating partnership around and that remains true.
 
Someone should post a link to this on RAWK, it would be proper meltdown :lol:
 
Ouch! I'm afraid Duffy's going down despite Captain Marvel's best efforts.
 
Someone should post a link to this on RAWK, it would be proper meltdown :lol:

:lol: You'll see them with threads "Conspiracy Against Duffy on The Caf" and "Justice for Duffy"!!

This is horrific, it's like waiting for death. I thought my team would hold up but people don't seem to like the tactics...well, I knew what I was trying to do anyway!
 
GAME ON tomorrow then! :devil:

Couldn't come at a worse time for me, moving house over the next few days so may just have to send my boy out there and see if they can do the business!