What on earth are you talking about?
Kids are being kids, they're dressing up, no one is labelled as trans because of it, and people haven't been using the term 'transvestite' for a very long time.
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What on earth are you talking about?
Kids are being kids, they're dressing up, no one is labelled as trans because of it, and people haven't been using the term 'transvestite' for a very long time.
What? I'm talking about my childhood.
How do you know all this? No one is this, no one is that?
I think what he’s trying to say is stop throwing around labels as kids easily buy into things, we all grew up with girls that were Tom boys and went on to become adult women it’s phases of growing up. There was emo and stoners who grew up to join the police.
"There is no candidate that can change this."
OK I guess Dems can't elections anymore.
You are talking about you dressing up in your childhood because you saw Donald Trump alleging child abuse and mutilation based on transphobic lies, and your response was "yeah he's right" and to start reminiscing. Your anecdote was completely irrelevant, because no one is getting treatment on the basis of putting on a dress, and those actually getting treatment from professionals aren't getting the sort of treatment Trump (and by extension, you) claims.
Who is throwing labels around, and why is that relevant as a reply to Trump talking about child abuse and mutilation?
There's replies to this entirely reasonable clip complaining that they were too mean to BidenThis is just rewriting history. He didn’t want another debate, because it looked bad for him. When Biden was the nominee, Trump was eager for another debate after the first one, because it exposed Biden’s weaknesses. Trump was clever not to take another one with Harris, but it wasn’t because he did the job in the first one.
Your boy won the election. No need to deny reality about how the campaign went.
Not sure how Rogan is relevant here, but Harris should have gone on his podcast. Bad mistake on her part.
The Harris campaign was a massive con job.
The Harris campaign was a massive con job.
It’s absolutely absurd, but is any of this anomalous in POTUS campaigns?
Probably not although the Harris campaign due to the amount of money it raised will be at peak absurd.
It ties into a broader issue with the Democratic Party. It's incredibly effective at raising money, including from small donors, which is often pissed away on nothing. This sometimes makes people suspicious that the party is more of a fundraising organization that pays for itself than a political organization. It was really notable in 2020 when there were these incredibly well-funded campaigns in red states that achieved literally nothing, same or worse margins than in the previous campaign.
The problem for the Harris campaign was probably that all the money in the world will do you no good, if you don't have an effective message to pump out. Even though Trump got a lot of value out of media that is basically free for him (Rogan, Theo Von, etc.), there will still be a role for paid media in the future. Trump's "Kamala is for they/them" ads were apparently really effective, for example, because that message is simple and it resonates. Did the Harris campaign have something of similar potency? I'm not sure.
A lot of money was spent on finding this message:
That's not the Harris campaign, but still. Insane.
Insane indeed. They can't manufacture impact though, if the fundamental link to the candidate and her policies isn't there.
We are now on day 4 after the election and California has still only counted 63% of their vote 
Looks like the Republicans will have complete majority - Congress, Senate, Presidency and of course judiciary.
House - 218 needed
Dem - 200 (lost 2)
GOP-212
The ones to be announced are mostly leaning red.
House - 218 needed
Dem - 200 (lost 2)
GOP-212
The ones to be announced are mostly leaning red.
That’s not the last thing said in that tweet
That hurt my brain.
Read up about it mate: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex
There's lots of different conditions that give people different sexual characteristics to the norm. Typically you wouldn't know from looking at them without seeing their bits. You've probably met a fair few people with these conditions in your life.
I disagree with the general premise.
Trump won in 2016, then lost in 2020, then won in 2024. I don't think the Republican misinformation machine ran out of oil in between his two wins.
I think that there is some sentiment now, after a crushing loss, to try and argue that nothing could have prevented it and we can only look forward.
Hopefully Pelosi is forced out too. She needs to be in a retirement home by now.
Thats the joys of democracy hitting your brain!
So why do you think he lost in 2020?
Good data on the most basic fundamental facts of the election:
Maybe its more the level of detail? They're not looking at the specific proposal, they wouldn't understand it or know how to relate it to their own life. They're looking for a vibe and impression as to what they're trying to do.
Some have picked a team and will just support whatever red / blue does. They probably need an entirely different strategy to be reached and get out voting.
The Harris campaign was a massive con job.
Beyond the aburdity of how the money was spent, the fact that she raised $1b in a few weeks suggests that the Dems could’ve had a mini primary and still raised more than enough money to run a successful campaign. Biden apparently undercut that process by immediately endorsing Harris with no consideration for other candidates.
Did Biden endorse Harris as ultimate "Feck you for throwing me out"?
Give me 500 dollars and 1 afternoon and I can build you that set.
I suspect Biden and Harris had a conversation about him endorsing her as the “heir apparent”. A total elitist clown show where the interests of millions are carved up by two people.
Considering how much money her campaign was able to generate after her nomination, the excuse that was used before that she was the only option because only she could access his funds, really doesn't fly. And that money clearly wasn't well spent anyway.
I wonder how much Harris accepting to have Biden team for the election played into this outcome.
100%
Probably a lot given that Biden’s campaign manager immediately switched to Harris moments after Biden dropped out. In the end, the seamless transition between both campaigns yielded nothing for the Dems.
Considering she has almost no original thoughts, sticking with the Biden team and their strategies was pretty much her only option at that late stage.
I mean presidential candidates and campaigns cost too much run for too long that's in general. So she raised a billion dollars? I mean the amounts picked out here are technically tiny. So what if she spent money on a set? Or influencer engagement. I could see the point if there was "nothing" spent on ground game. Offices in battlegrounds, ads etc. She did all that too. AND gave money to down Ballot campaigns in other states. Any campaign that loses you could argue the money was wasted because well they lost. To me real waste is proving that heres a huge thing you neglected with the money that could have changed something. Just to spend it on *this* whatever it is that was meaningless.
The more important issue is clearly messaging in general. And still I will say over and over again Biden not dropping out and allowing the full primary.
The more important issue is clearly messaging in general. And still I will say over and over again Biden not dropping out and allowing the full primary.
This was no more evident when she attempted to play both sides on Israel/Gaza. A completely manufactured, focus grouped candidate who left the public confused as to what she actually believes.